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2023 Ryder Cup

Started by 🏀, May 09, 2023, 08:48:57 PM

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Lennys Tap

Quote from: withoutbias on September 01, 2023, 09:53:49 AM
Why aren't teams offering the kitchen sink for James Harden?  He's a top 10 talent in the world.  Why weren't teams bending over backwards to get Kyrie?  He's a top 10 talent in the world.  This is professional sports, not pickup basketball at the Y where buddies just want to get some run.

It's almost like just taking the most talented people and sending them out there doesn't work out.  Chemistry is a thing.

When 5 guys are sharing one ball it's one thing. Golf isn't remotely the same but I'm not surprised you'd make the analogy.

RJax55

Quote from: Lennys Tap on September 01, 2023, 12:50:32 PM
So Tiger shouldn't have made the Ryder Cup teams? But of course that's absurd. Small sample sizes, regression to the mean, etc.

Each Ryder Cup Team is a stand alone entity. JT played his way on to two of them and performed well. This year he played himself off of the team but was given a spot over some who played better. You think that's a good thing. I disagree.

Never stated that, but sure, jump to that conclusion.


Lennys Tap

Quote from: RJax55 on September 01, 2023, 01:35:10 PM
Never stated that, but sure, jump to that conclusion.

No, you pointed out (correctly) that his record in Ryder Cup play sucked. But if you want to add players who don't earn a spot because of past success in the format wouldn't you likewise want to eliminate deserving players because of past failures?

RJax55

#128
Quote from: Lennys Tap on September 01, 2023, 03:56:25 PM
No, you pointed out (correctly) that his record in Ryder Cup play sucked. But if you want to add players who don't earn a spot because of past success in the format wouldn't you likewise want to eliminate deserving players because of past failures?

No. I was pointing out that tournament golf and Ryder Cup golf are not the same. Tiger is a good example of this. Recent tournament success or failure does not mean Ryder Cup success or failure.

So, I'm in favor of the RC Captain looking at other factors in making his captain picks. That's why I don't have an issue with ZJ picking JT.

Btw, I don't like JT. However, I would like to see the US win an away Ryder Cup. If that means having the Spring Break Crew together, so be it. Because the old way wasn't working.

🏀

Quote from: RJax55 on September 01, 2023, 04:31:24 PM
No. I was pointing out that tournament golf and Ryder Cup golf are not the same. Tiger is a good example of this. Recent tournament success or failure does not mean Ryder Cup success or failure.

So, I'm in favor of the RC Captain looking at other factors in making his captain picks. That's why I don't have an issue with ZJ picking JT.

Btw, I don't like JT. However, I would like to see the US win an away Ryder Cup. If that means having the Spring Break Crew together, so be it. Because the old way wasn't working.

Hopefully Smiley gets some booth time.

tower912

Time for the Euros.    Who will be the JT, who will be the Keegan?

Rory, Rahm, Hovland, Hatton, Matthew Fitzpatrick and Robert Macintyre are automatically qualified.

Fleetwood, Rose, and Straka seem like no-brainer captain's picks.   

Did Aberg come from nowhere to steal a Captain's pick?    Did Lowry's desultory play of late leave him off after a solid spring?

I think Aberg, Lowry, and Meronk are 10-11-12.     Aberg's win taking the spot from Hojgaard.


Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.


tower912

3 for 2 spots.  Aberg, Hoggard, and Lowry.  I think Lowry gets the JT treatment.   Body of work says Hojgaard.   Hot hand says Aberg.   So, flip the Euro between Aberg and Hojgaard.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Spaniel with a Short Tail

Meronk got screwed. I hope the US kills the Euros.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: tower912 on September 03, 2023, 07:48:42 PM
3 for 2 spots.  Aberg, Hoggard, and Lowry.  I think Lowry gets the JT treatment.   Body of work says Hojgaard.   Hot hand says Aberg.   So, flip the Euro between Aberg and Hojgaard.

Big Meronk fan but Aberg and Hojgaard are long term picks.  Both have star potential.

As for the JT pick, Zach choosing him, I get the strategy.  Current form could be gone or back in a month, so pick the devil you know.  For the concern over his play, I'd also worry about Spieth and Burns and Fowler to a lesser extent whose play has cooled since his win
Ramsey head thoroughly up his ass.

Spaniel with a Short Tail

This guy thinks that Meronk should have been included in place of Lowry, not either of the youngsters.

https://www.golfdigest.com/story/euroepan-ryder-cup-captains-picks-mix-experience-new-blood


Uncle Rico

Ramsey head thoroughly up his ass.

Uncle Rico

Ramsey head thoroughly up his ass.

Uncle Rico

Good to see Team Europe playing well at Wentworth.  Looks like Team USA is practicing largely in their gated communities to prepare for the Ryder Cup.

Prop bet on Zach beating JT in Napa?  Wouldn't that be embarrassing
Ramsey head thoroughly up his ass.

tower912

European captain made the cut.   American captain doesn't.   Omen?
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: tower912 on September 16, 2023, 08:40:52 AM
European captain made the cut.   American captain doesn't.   Omen?

At least JT beat him. 

I'm very encouraged for my European boys.  Many appear in fine form while the Americans are already making excuses

https://www.sbnation.com/golf/2023/9/13/23870743/ryder-cup-zach-johnson-stewart-cink-claim-host-venue
Ramsey head thoroughly up his ass.

tower912

That Aberg kid can hit some shots.   At this moment, it feels like the streak continues.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: tower912 on September 16, 2023, 09:03:12 AM
That Aberg kid can hit some shots.   At this moment, it feels like the streak continues.

2.5 majors won by Team Europe members in 2024.  Take the over
Ramsey head thoroughly up his ass.

Uncle Rico

European Rickie with an incredible shot from the hay
Ramsey head thoroughly up his ass.

tower912

Quote from: Uncle Rico on September 16, 2023, 09:31:53 AM
European Rickie with an incredible shot from the hay
Golf Jesus?
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Uncle Rico

Ramsey head thoroughly up his ass.

tower912

#147
If Rory and Golf Jesus are paired at the Ryder Cup, will it be a landslide or will they go their own way?   Either way, I am sure there will be big love everywhere.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

tower912

#148
8 Euro Ryder Cup players within 5 shots of the lead at Wentworth.

Hatton
McIlroy
Lowry
Rahm
Aberg
Straka
Hovland
Fleetwood

JT playing well in Cali.

Fleetwood just ended his tournament.   Never mind.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: tower912 on September 17, 2023, 07:35:01 AM
8 Euro Ryder Cup players within 5 shots of the lead at Wentworth.

Hatton
McIlroy
Lowry
Rahm
Aberg
Straka
Hovland
Fleetwood

JT playing well in Cali.

Fleetwood just ended his tournament.   Never mind.

Rough morning for Aberg and European Richard.
Ramsey head thoroughly up his ass.