2023 Ryder Cup

[Lennys Tap]

Why aren't teams offering the kitchen sink for James Harden?  He's a top 10 talent in the world.  Why weren't teams bending over backwards to get Kyrie?  He's a top 10 talent in the world.  This is professional sports, not pickup basketball at the Y where buddies just want to get some run.

It's almost like just taking the most talented people and sending them out there doesn't work out.  Chemistry is a thing.

When 5 guys are sharing one ball it's one thing. Golf isn't remotely the same but I'm not surprised you'd make the analogy.

[RJax55]

So Tiger shouldn't have made the Ryder Cup teams? But of course that's absurd. Small sample sizes, regression to the mean, etc.

Each Ryder Cup Team is a stand alone entity. JT played his way on to two of them and performed well. This year he played himself off of the team but was given a spot over some who played better. You think that's a good thing. I disagree.

Never stated that, but sure, jump to that conclusion.

[Lennys Tap]

Never stated that, but sure, jump to that conclusion.

No, you pointed out (correctly) that his record in Ryder Cup play sucked. But if you want to add players who don't earn a spot because of past success in the format wouldn't you likewise want to eliminate deserving players because of past failures?

[RJax55]

No, you pointed out (correctly) that his record in Ryder Cup play sucked. But if you want to add players who don't earn a spot because of past success in the format wouldn't you likewise want to eliminate deserving players because of past failures?

No. I was pointing out that tournament golf and Ryder Cup golf are not the same. Tiger is a good example of this. Recent tournament success or failure does not mean Ryder Cup success or failure.

So, I'm in favor of the RC Captain looking at other factors in making his captain picks. That's why I don't have an issue with ZJ picking JT.

Btw, I don't like JT. However, I would like to see the US win an away Ryder Cup. If that means having the Spring Break Crew together, so be it. Because the old way wasn't working.

[🏀]

No. I was pointing out that tournament golf and Ryder Cup golf are not the same. Tiger is a good example of this. Recent tournament success or failure does not mean Ryder Cup success or failure.

So, I'm in favor of the RC Captain looking at other factors in making his captain picks. That's why I don't have an issue with ZJ picking JT.

Btw, I don't like JT. However, I would like to see the US win an away Ryder Cup. If that means having the Spring Break Crew together, so be it. Because the old way wasn't working.

Hopefully Smiley gets some booth time.

[tower912]

Time for the Euros.    Who will be the JT, who will be the Keegan?

Rory, Rahm, Hovland, Hatton, Matthew Fitzpatrick and Robert Macintyre are automatically qualified.

Fleetwood, Rose, and Straka seem like no-brainer captain's picks.   

Did Aberg come from nowhere to steal a Captain's pick?    Did Lowry's desultory play of late leave him off after a solid spring?

I think Aberg, Lowry, and Meronk are 10-11-12.     Aberg's win taking the spot from Hojgaard.

[Spaniel with a Short Tail]

Golf Digest agrees. 

https://www.golfdigest.com/story/RyderCup2023-european-team-captain-picks-luke-donald

[tower912]

3 for 2 spots.  Aberg, Hoggard, and Lowry.  I think Lowry gets the JT treatment.   Body of work says Hojgaard.   Hot hand says Aberg.   So, flip the Euro between Aberg and Hojgaard.

[Spaniel with a Short Tail]

Meronk got screwed. I hope the US kills the Euros.

[Uncle Rico]

3 for 2 spots.  Aberg, Hoggard, and Lowry.  I think Lowry gets the JT treatment.   Body of work says Hojgaard.   Hot hand says Aberg.   So, flip the Euro between Aberg and Hojgaard.

Big Meronk fan but Aberg and Hojgaard are long term picks.  Both have star potential.

As for the JT pick, Zach choosing him, I get the strategy.  Current form could be gone or back in a month, so pick the devil you know.  For the concern over his play, I'd also worry about Spieth and Burns and Fowler to a lesser extent whose play has cooled since his win

[Spaniel with a Short Tail]

This guy thinks that Meronk should have been included in place of Lowry, not either of the youngsters.

https://www.golfdigest.com/story/euroepan-ryder-cup-captains-picks-mix-experience-new-blood

[Spaniel with a Short Tail]

Meronk reaction.

https://golf.com/news/ryder-cup-adrian-meronk-snub/

[Uncle Rico]

Meronk reaction.

https://golf.com/news/ryder-cup-adrian-meronk-snub/

Would have liked watching Meronk beat JT or Flower 5&4 on Sunday.  Now, Aberg will

[Uncle Rico]

Ryder Cup champs playing together this week at Wentworth

https://x.com/dpworldtour/status/1701594007766233277?s=46&t=QSiaGcOIKZrrpw0ciZkI5Q

[Uncle Rico]

Good to see Team Europe playing well at Wentworth.  Looks like Team USA is practicing largely in their gated communities to prepare for the Ryder Cup.

Prop bet on Zach beating JT in Napa?  Wouldn't that be embarrassing

[tower912]

European captain made the cut.   American captain doesn't.   Omen?

[Uncle Rico]

European captain made the cut.   American captain doesn't.   Omen?

At least JT beat him. 

I'm very encouraged for my European boys.  Many appear in fine form while the Americans are already making excuses

https://www.sbnation.com/golf/2023/9/13/23870743/ryder-cup-zach-johnson-stewart-cink-claim-host-venue

[tower912]

That Aberg kid can hit some shots.   At this moment, it feels like the streak continues.

[Uncle Rico]

That Aberg kid can hit some shots.   At this moment, it feels like the streak continues.

2.5 majors won by Team Europe members in 2024.  Take the over

[Uncle Rico]

European Rickie with an incredible shot from the hay

[tower912]

European Rickie with an incredible shot from the hay

Golf Jesus?

[Uncle Rico]

Golf Jesus?

Yes

[tower912]

If Rory and Golf Jesus are paired at the Ryder Cup, will it be a landslide or will they go their own way?   Either way, I am sure there will be big love everywhere.

[tower912]

8 Euro Ryder Cup players within 5 shots of the lead at Wentworth.

Hatton
McIlroy
Lowry
Rahm
Aberg
Straka
Hovland
Fleetwood

JT playing well in Cali.

Fleetwood just ended his tournament.   Never mind.

[Uncle Rico]

8 Euro Ryder Cup players within 5 shots of the lead at Wentworth.

Hatton
McIlroy
Lowry
Rahm
Aberg
Straka
Hovland
Fleetwood

JT playing well in Cali.

Fleetwood just ended his tournament.   Never mind.

Rough morning for Aberg and European Richard.