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Jay Bee

Quote from: brewcity77 on May 17, 2023, 04:37:05 PM
#fakenews #lies

Just because he can take two more years doesn't mean he'd be a junior. Marquette already listed him as a junior this past year.

https://gomarquette.com/sports/mens-basketball/roster/olivier-maxence-prosper/7100

His ncaa eligibility classification would most certainly be junior

What's posted on a website no Matta. Fact is MU listed him as a frosh in 2021-22.
The portal is NOT closed.

MarquetteMike1977

From CBS Sports
2023 NBA Draft Combine notes, takeaways: Marquette's O-Max Prosper and 'No. 99' make good first impressions

We R Final Four

Wonder if he plays tomorrow.

The Lens

Quote from: MU82 on May 17, 2023, 03:44:07 PM
Oh, I agree. If I'm the GM of the team with the 51st pick, and I want O-Max, I'm drafting him. Not gonna let someone else get him.

Depends on the agent.  If Jeff Schwartx, Mark Bartlestein or Rich Paul calls you might do him the solid.  GMs do favors for agents all the time.
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MUfan12

Quote from: The Lens on May 17, 2023, 09:32:49 PM
Depends on the agent.  If Jeff Schwartx, Mark Bartlestein or Rich Paul calls you might do him the solid.  GMs do favors for agents all the time.

Former Bucks GM Jason Kidd nods in agreement.

MU82

Quote from: The Lens on May 17, 2023, 09:32:49 PM
Depends on the agent.  If Jeff Schwartx, Mark Bartlestein or Rich Paul calls you might do him the solid.  GMs do favors for agents all the time.

True. Excellent point.
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Spotcheck Billy

#656
Ben Steele with an update from yesterday
Quote"After this combine, I'm going to see the feedback I get," Prosper said. "And then after that, I'm going to talk with my people and then probably make a decision after that.
"I'm just trying to embrace this. Be where my feet are right now and take this all in. And then we'll see after that.""I envisioned myself coming in here and playing with great energy," Prosper said. "Going and making hustle plays.
"Really impact the game multiple ways. Rebounding the ball. Sprinting the floor. Playing defense. And I knew if I did those things, I was going to find myself some buckets. Some dunks. Some cuts. Some offensive rebounds. Then once I am in that flow, I can catch-and-shoot threes and make plays.
"I just came in that I was going to work the hardest on the floor today. And that's how I was able to get the game that I got today."

PaintTouches

Quick roundup of how OMax set draft Twitter ablaze yesterday, cementing his NBA pedigree. The question is no longer will he stay in the draft, but will he move into the first round.

https://painttouches.com/2023/05/18/omax-looking-more-and-more-like-promax-marquette-nba-draft-olivier-maxence-prosper-combine/

The Equalizer

Quote from: brewcity77 link=topic=64742.msg1551849#msg1551849 date=
#fakenews #lies

Just because he can take two more years doesn't mean he'd be a junior. Marquette already listed him as a junior this past year.

https://gomarquette.com/sports/mens-basketball/roster/olivier-maxence-prosper/7100


Quote from: Jay Bee on May 17, 2023, 05:47:29 PM
His ncaa eligibility classification would most certainly be junior

What's posted on a website no Matta. Fact is MU listed him as a frosh in 2021-22.

I believe for Marquette, classification depends on how many credits the player has earned. When OMax transferred in MU likely didn't accept enough of his Clemson credits for him to be considered a soph, so he was listed as a freshman. He likely caught up credit-wise and was considered a junior this past season. 

If he returns, classification on MU's page will depend on his credit count.  He'll be a junior again if his credit tally falls short of what would be considered a senior.



The Sultan

Quote from: The Equalizer on May 18, 2023, 09:29:44 AM

I believe for Marquette, classification depends on how many credits the player has earned. When OMax transferred in MU likely didn't accept enough of his Clemson credits for him to be considered a soph, so he was listed as a freshman. He likely caught up credit-wise and was considered a junior this past season. 

If he returns, classification on MU's page will depend on his credit count.  He'll be a junior again if his credit tally falls short of what would be considered a senior.





I have never seen a player's stated year of athletic eligibility be based on their academic progress.  (And my guess is that they accepted 100% of his freshman year credits anyway.)

I think Marquette simply changed how it classifies players wrt the extra Covid year. Initially they "removed" a year so that people could tell that a four-year "junior" would have one more year of eligibility. But as people like rocky saw, they were pretty much the only school that did that.  So they changed so that they "counted up" with the understanding that a "senior" may have one more year remaining.
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Skatastrophy

I was really happy to see Prosper keep up with his EGBs during the combine game. A lot of his teammates seemed to go into their own heads during stoppages/dead-balls and Prosper was constantly dapping them up and chatting.

I always thought that was something you couldn't coach in a kid, but maybe you can? Good on him either way.

I tried to come up with a good Prosper nickname working 'props' in there but it came out muddled. Go nuts, clever folks

GoldenEagles03

If you go to GOOGLE and type in 'NBA Combine' OMax is the headline of almost every page that pulls up.

That's so cool.
VIOLENCE!

Jay Bee

Quote from: The Equalizer on May 18, 2023, 09:29:44 AM

I believe for Marquette, classification depends on how many credits the player has earned. When OMax transferred in MU likely didn't accept enough of his Clemson credits for him to be considered a soph, so he was listed as a freshman. He likely caught up credit-wise and was considered a junior this past season. 

If he returns, classification on MU's page will depend on his credit count.  He'll be a junior again if his credit tally falls short of what would be considered a senior.

This is completely made up nonsense and not true at all. Has zero to do with credits.

Btw, it's not just OMax - they treated everyone the same. Different each year, but applied consistently to all players in each particular year.
The portal is NOT closed.

MuggsyB

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on May 18, 2023, 10:07:29 AM
If you go to GOOGLE and type in 'NBA Combine' OMax is the headline of almost every page that pulls up.

That's so cool.

Damn. 

GoldenEagles03

OMax has withdrawn from today's competition at the NBA Combine.

He's already shown what he's needed to. Tough to top what he did yesterday.
VIOLENCE!

TSmith34, Inc.

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on May 18, 2023, 02:01:46 PM
OMax has withdrawn from today's competition at the NBA Combine.

He's already shown what he's needed to. Tough to top what he did yesterday.
Well that, and he needs to pick his classes for next year.
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OMax has been gowne since last summer, hey. Great young man seizing his aspirations.

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With Omax and others moving up, any reports on who's headed downward?


Jay Bee

Now Zach is gone. Fml
The portal is NOT closed.

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MU82

The Athletic's John Hollinger has a new article on which players improved their stock the most at the Combine. A large photo of O-Max is at the top of the article, just ahead of this paragraph:

Taking top honors was Marquette forward Olivier-Maxence Prosper, a big wing who didn't show a lot offensively this season. He scored a game-high 21 points in the first day's scrimmage and, not shockingly, pulled out of the second day. Prosper also measured 6-6 and 3/4 in socks with a 7-1 wingspan, and uncorked a 35-inch standing vertical, the second-best leap at the event. Teams are likely to go back through his tape and ask questions – how somebody this athletic could have such low rates of blocks and steals, and whether his limited feel (just 1.3 assists per 100 possessions) will be a barrier. Nonetheless, he may have played himself into the back end of the first round.

Lots of very interesting observations in that one paragraph, including some criticism of O-Max's relative lack of production at MU and capped by the forecast of where he might be drafted. Which is much higher than most of us thought possible.
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tower912

One of the things that frustrated me about OMax last season was how he could drive into the lane almost at will and then.... stop.   Didn't explode to the rim.   Because everyone knew he would do a two footed jump stop, he rarely drew extra defenders.  I was looking forward to watching him posterize defenders at the rim and/or start looking for open shooters or cutters.   That will have to happen at the next level.
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