Omax declares

[Jockey]

New cap exception for second rounders may influence differences here

It may allow for longer contracts for 2nd round picks, but we will have to see how/if it changes things. I think it may mean that some 2nd rounders get a little bigger contracts (maybe for 3 or 4 years) and could possibly make the 2nd round picks a bit more valuable.

[The Sultan]

I felt Vander and Justin had likely played as well as they could at MU and didn't fault them for leaving.  I think O-Max has better ball ahead of him at MU...improve a bit from 3 and get a little better going to the rim and he could go 1st round.  That said...he seems like a smart kid that is likely listening to the right people.

He can improve in the NBA and G league too.

[Pakuni]

He can improve in the NBA and G league too.

Yep.
And probably moreso, with no limits on practice time, no pesky classes and homework, etc.
Jimmy Butler is Example #1 of how players continue to develop in the NBA.

[lawdog77]

2nd round picks are a dime a dozen. Lots would rather be undrafted and be able to sign with any team they like. As far as contract requirements, there are none between a 2nd rounder and a FA.

Curious on how past second rounders fared vs undrafted Free Agents in terms of a) getting guaranteed money and b)length of time staying in the league

[We R Final Four]

Do you have any evidence to support that belief?

Yes....30 minutes after this year's draft......listen to the interviews of those underclassman who were not drafted describe how they were told by their agent/team that they would go mid 2nd round.

[StillAWarrior]

Yes....30 minutes after this year's draft......listen to the interviews of those underclassman who were not drafted describe how they were told by their agent/team that they would go mid 2nd round.

Then again, that could just as easily be chalked up to young men hearing what they want to hear.

[We R Final Four]

Maybe....When team A says if your still available we are taking you......Team A's pick? Not you......phone rings 15 minutes later......we really love you and want you to be a part of our future.....

[HutchwasClutch]

Every day that goes by without Wrightsil finding a landing spot elsewhere makes the possibility more likely. 

Conversely, Ellis & Itegere found landing spots  a few weeks ago.

Zach entered the portal 3/28, with nothing announced since - not even a rumor.

Does that maybe speak volumes how coaches feel about him? Of course it does. 

Can we stop wishing an NAIA player returns?  That is such loser thinking for a program who swept the Big East and earned a two seed.  We should be able to do better than Wrightsil without trying. 

[HutchwasClutch]

I felt Vander and Justin had likely played as well as they could at MU and didn't fault them for leaving.  I think O-Max has better ball ahead of him at MU...improve a bit from 3 and get a little better going to the rim and he could go 1st round.  That said...he seems like a smart kid that is likely listening to the right people.

Vander - yes.

Justin - no effing way.

[#UnleashSean]

He can improve in the NBA and G league too.

It's such a weird disconnect when people talk about improving in college, like the g league isn't a thing.

[avid1010]

Vander - yes.

Justin - no effing way.

I didn't think Justin was going to shoot the ball at a higher level, and he wasn't going to see the volume of shots moving forward.  Shaka has said as much in terms of voume and the ball sticking in his hands.

[avid1010]

He can improve in the NBA and G league too.

Absolutely, but if that's the best path for growth there should be a lot more kids leaving for the G-League.  His growth at MU has been solid...I'd be careful about interrupting that.

[StillAWarrior]

Does that maybe speak volumes how coaches feel about him? Of course it does. 

Can we stop wishing an NAIA player returns?  That is such loser thinking for a program who swept the Big East and earned a two seed.  We should be able to do better than Wrightsil without trying.

Unless, of course, Shaka and his staff believe that NAIA player made a meaningful contribution to the team's Big East championship season. If they think that's the case and they want him back, then I'd be happy to have him back. It's possible they think he can contribute more to this team's success than anyone else in the portal.

It's also possible that they'll sign someone else from the portal today.

[The Sultan]

Does that maybe speak volumes how coaches feel about him? Of course it does. 

Can we stop wishing an NAIA player returns?  That is such loser thinking for a program who swept the Big East and earned a two seed.  We should be able to do better than Wrightsil without trying. 

I'm not wishing Wrightsil back unless that's what Shaka wants.

[The Sultan]

Absolutely, but if that's the best path for growth there should be a lot more kids leaving for the G-League.  His growth at MU has been solid...I'd be careful about interrupting that.

The only people who would go to the G-League are those who are fringe NBA guys...like OMax. Otherwise there just isn't enough room on those rosters.

[lawdog77]

The only people who would go to the G-League are those who are fringe NBA guys...like OMax. Otherwise there just isn't enough room on those rosters.

Except if your father is part owner of the NBA team.

[4everwarriors]

Or your brother is a mega star, aina?

[94Warrior]

Does that maybe speak volumes how coaches feel about him? Of course it does. 

Can we stop wishing an NAIA player returns?  That is such loser thinking for a program who swept the Big East and earned a two seed.  We should be able to do better than Wrightsil without trying.

Shaka was excited about Wrightsil last summer.  If he's healthy and returns to form, it would stand to reason he'd be be welcomed back.

Didn't Jae Crowder go to 2 Community colleges before coming to MU?  Let's not pretend to know more about Zach's game based on where he played 2 years ago, than Shaka knows about him.

If Shaka wants him, so do I.  We shall see.

[CTWarrior]

It's such a weird disconnect when people talk about improving in college, like the g league isn't a thing.

Well, if O-Max improves enough next season to be first round draft pick quality, it would be better for him if he did it at Marquette and got drafted in the first round rather than doing it in the G-League.  That is an enormous "if" however, and not tone hat a player is likely to bank on, as it would probably represent a small percentage of cases.

The only reasons for O-Max to come back is if doesn't think he will get drafted or be offered a 2 way and is told he has a long way to go.

[Herman Cain]

Omax is 64 on the ESPN Big Board

https://www.espn.com/nba/draft/bestavailable/_/position/ovr/page/3

[We R Final Four]

Omax is 64 on the ESPN Big Board

https://www.espn.com/nba/draft/bestavailable/_/position/ovr/page/3

Do you know where JLew was on the ESPN big board?

[Herman Cain]

Do you know where JLew was on the ESPN big board?

I think he was in the mid 40s right before the draft day.

[1SE]

Way ahead of Sonogo and Kaluma

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

OMax's trajectory seems to be positive towards getting drafted. I think he gets picked up in the second round.

[rocky_warrior]

OMax's trajectory seems to be positive towards getting drafted. I think he gets picked up in the second round.

You don't say...

Omax is committed to staying in the draft.