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Hards Alumni

Quote from: withoutbias on April 13, 2023, 12:14:18 PM
It appears he stayed on the reservation until the end of the season.

I believe Doug went a step further and said, "Plantation".

oilcan

If Shaka decides to take a peek at the players in the portal he should look at a 7 footer who is leaving Nevada. Shaka recruited him when he was coach at Texas. (2019)  Will Baker has 2 years left in eligibility. High shooting pct. Has a very nice hook shot. Decent rebounder.  Just sayin'.

Silkk the Shaka

Quote from: Jay Bee on April 12, 2023, 03:48:12 PM
NIL bidding to recruit a player is not permissible for anyone.

Curious how this is enforced? As in, you can't say something like "come to Miami, we will give you a $500k NIL deal" but can you say, "there's no guarantee and we can't promise anyone anything but talk to the three guys that were in your exact situation last year and ask them what they got *wink* then make your own decision" which is virtually indistinguishable?

StillAWarrior

Quote from: BrewCity83 on April 13, 2023, 11:45:13 AM
I wouldn't call a $508,891 salary "almost nothing".

I hope he's OK. I would imagine Chicago has some resources available for the underemployed.
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Quote from: Uncle Rico on April 13, 2023, 10:57:44 AM
Good question.  Culture matters in college basketball.  Creighton is learning how to navigate that at the moment.  The last roster nearly took them to a Final Four.  It's now slowly imploding.  Fine line to walk
they tried the adidas money bag drop. I guess walking that line didn't work, hey.
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Uncle Rico

Quote from: Viper on April 13, 2023, 12:36:57 PM
they tried the adidas money bag drop. I guess walking that line didn't work, hey.

I think it depends on the player in question.  Does that player want to put in the time and work at the college level or are they just passing through?  I think you need the right coach to handle players like this, too.
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panda

What's everyone worried about ? It's jop time

Goose

panda

I like Joplin, but my expectations for next year fall quite a bit if that is Omax replacement plan.

panda

Quote from: Goose on April 13, 2023, 12:50:15 PM
panda

I like Joplin, but my expectations for next year fall quite a bit if that is Omax replacement plan.

I disagree goose. Better scorer, better rebounder. More chase Ross time for energy. Net positive

brewcity77

Quote from: Silkk the Shaka on April 13, 2023, 12:27:45 PM
Curious how this is enforced? As in, you can't say something like "come to Miami, we will give you a $500k NIL deal" but can you say, "there's no guarantee and we can't promise anyone anything but talk to the three guys that were in your exact situation last year and ask them what they got *wink* then make your own decision" which is virtually indistinguishable?

Thus far, it's not, and I'm not sure it can be. It's naive to think this isn't going on, and honestly hasn't been going on as long as any of us have been watching college basketball.

jfp61

Quote from: Goose on April 13, 2023, 12:50:15 PM
panda

I like Joplin, but my expectations for next year fall quite a bit if that is Omax replacement plan.

I mean they fall from like 5th to 10th. (Before transfer season is over).

The floor is still top 25-30. (Better than every Wojo team)

Goose

jfp61

They are ranked #1 or #2 by a nice number of polls. Again, that does not happen very often, and I think Shaka sitting on his hands would be a mistake. That I said, I think he makes a move.

The Sultan

Quote from: panda on April 13, 2023, 12:52:17 PM
I disagree goose. Better scorer, better rebounder. More chase Ross time for energy. Net positive


I think you don't fully appreciate how important Prosper was to this team defensively.
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ChitownSpaceForRent

Quote from: wadesworld on April 13, 2023, 11:27:26 AM
Sounds like we're getting a kid who isn't even in the transfer portal?

Is this the MU version of UW's silent verbals?

I mean, that's what happened with Epps and Georgetown.

jfp61

Quote from: panda on April 13, 2023, 12:52:17 PM
I disagree goose. Better scorer, better rebounder. More chase Ross time for energy. Net positive

Joplin-

Less efficient scorer. Worse offensive rebound. Better defensive rebounder. Why because the staff couldn't trust Joplin to defend guards. So they stuck him on 5s and had him play drop coverage.

Joplin started to win me over near the end of last year.

But Omax was just better.

pbiflyer

Quote from: BrewCity83 on April 13, 2023, 11:45:13 AM
I wouldn't call a $508,891 salary "almost nothing".

I would take that nothing salary.

MUfan12

Quote from: jfp61 on April 13, 2023, 01:03:09 PM
Joplin-

Less efficient scorer. Worse offensive rebound. Better defensive rebounder. Why because the staff couldn't trust Joplin to defend guards. So they stuck him on 5s and had him play drop coverage.

Joplin started to win me over near the end of last year.

But Omax was just better.

Yup. They can't play the same way defensively without OMax or a replacement with the same physical tools.

panda

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on April 13, 2023, 01:00:51 PM

I think you don't fully appreciate how important Prosper was to this team defensively.
They're very different players, but jop will thrive in a larger role. Watching jop improve defensively over the course of this season gives me very little cause for concern. He'll never have the length omax does, but will be able to rebound signifactky better than omax. Chase can step in to change defensive looks at the 3 spot as well.

panda

Quote from: jfp61 on April 13, 2023, 01:03:09 PM
Joplin-

Less efficient scorer. Worse offensive rebound. Better defensive rebounder. Why because the staff couldn't trust Joplin to defend guards. So they stuck him on 5s and had him play drop coverage.

Joplin started to win me over near the end of last year.

But Omax was just better.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/

JTJ3

Quote from: wadesworld on April 13, 2023, 11:27:26 AM
Sounds like we're getting a kid who isn't even in the transfer portal?

Is this the MU version of UW's silent verbals?

Are we actually adding a mystery transfer?  Or is this just a joke about Badger fans?

Im fine with either one.

Jay Bee

Quote from: oilcan on April 13, 2023, 12:22:47 PM
If Shaka decides to take a peek at the players in the portal he should look at a 7 footer who is leaving Nevada. Shaka recruited him when he was coach at Texas. (2019)  Will Baker has 2 years left in eligibility. High shooting pct. Has a very nice hook shot. Decent rebounder.  Just sayin'.

He left one game into season 2 w Shaka cause he got zero minutes. Just sayin
The portal is NOT closed.

FartyEightHours

Ben Gold is ready. I could see him and Oso improving our rebounding game.  Less dependent on 3's.
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The Sultan

Quote from: panda on April 13, 2023, 01:13:00 PM
They're very different players, but jop will thrive in a larger role. Watching jop improve defensively over the course of this season gives me very little cause for concern. He'll never have the length omax does, but will be able to rebound signifactky better than omax. Chase can step in to change defensive looks at the 3 spot as well.


I would agree that Joplin improved and that Chase has the ability to improve.  But OMax was the primary defender on Jordan Hawkins in games #2 and #3 v. UConn, and he had two of his worst games of the year.  A likely first round pick!

Joplin doesn't have that ability and I'm not sure Chase is going to improve that much.
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tower912

The things that make OMax intriguing to the NBA are the things that MU will find hardest to replace if he stays in the draft.   
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wadesworld

Quote from: JTJ3 on April 13, 2023, 01:14:00 PM
Are we actually adding a mystery transfer?  Or is this just a joke about Badger fans?

Im fine with either one.

Both.  There were a couple posts about dropping a bag for a kid from North Dakota State...who has not entered his name into the portal.

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