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Re: Omax declares
« Reply #800 on: June 19, 2023, 09:32:38 AM »
Let's pump the brakes on the expectations for Kam... Here's the list of all high-major players in the last 10 seasons to average 19ppg on 40% from three:
Player            Year      PPG    3FG%  3PA/GM
Cade Cunningham   2020-21   20.1   .400  5.7
Luka Garza        2020-21   24.1   .440  3.2
Markus Howard     2019-20   27.8   .412  10.1
Payton Pritchard  2019-20   20.5   .415  6.8
Markus Howard     2018-19   25.0   .403  8.8
Markus Howard     2017-18   20.4   .404  8.1
Andrew Rowsey     2017-18   20.5   .415  8.6
Marcus Foster     2017-18   19.8   .413  7.0
Trevon Bluiett    2017-18   19.3   .417  7.2
Jerome Robinson   2017-18   20.7   .409  5.7
Tony Carr         2017-18   19.6   .433  5.5
Aaron Holiday     2017-18   20.3   .429  6.2
Luke Kennard      2016-17   19.5   .438  5.4
Frank Mason       2016-17   20.9   .471  4.8
Markelle Fultz    2016-17   23.2   .413  5.0
Andrew Andrews    2015-16   20.9   .401  5.6
Buddy Hield       2015-16   25.0   .457  8.7
Grayson Allen     2015-16   21.6   .417  6.0
Denzel Valentine  2015-16   19.2   .444  7.5
Jamal Murray      2015-16   20.0   .408  7.7
D'Angelo Russell  2014-15   19.3   .411  6.6
Doug McDermott    2013-14   26.7   .449  6.1
Jabari Brown      2013-14   19.9   .410  5.6

(Kam scored 15.1 PPG with .360 3FG% on 7.7 3PA/GM last year)

Remember the NCAA pushed the 3 point line back after between the 2018-19 and 2019-20 seasons, making this achievement more difficult in the last 4 seasons.

Some of the numbers suggested in this thread (25ppg on 47% from 3?!) would be historically great offensive seasons. I think Kam can get to 19ppg or 40% from 3. Both at the same time is probably a reach.

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Re: Omax declares
« Reply #801 on: June 19, 2023, 09:39:04 AM »
Having joplin kolek and kam all hitting at 40 would be monstrous.
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Re: Omax declares
« Reply #802 on: June 19, 2023, 09:52:03 AM »
Kam's most effective offense isn't from distance. It's when it puts the ball on the floor and gets to the basket. It's why he has a higher EFG than Markus at this point in his career.
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Re: Omax declares
« Reply #803 on: June 19, 2023, 11:26:49 AM »
Kam's most effective offense isn't from distance. It's when it puts the ball on the floor and gets to the basket. It's why he has a higher EFG than Markus at this point in his career.

yep, so much so that Kam probably has to get to the line more, shoot better from the line, or shoot better from three to maintain his personal efficiency.

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Re: Omax declares
« Reply #804 on: June 19, 2023, 11:34:27 AM »
yep, so much so that Kam probably has to get to the line more, shoot better from the line, or shoot better from three to maintain his personal efficiency.

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Had he shot an avg FT%, he would have scored less than 4 additional points all year.

GETTING TO THE LINE, though, yes. Big opportunity for his growth
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Re: Omax declares
« Reply #805 on: June 19, 2023, 11:40:30 AM »
Let's pump the brakes on the expectations for Kam... Here's the list of all high-major players in the last 10 seasons to average 19ppg on 40% from three:

And here's a list of Marquette players who have ever averaged 25 ppg:

Markus Howard


For those who have suggested 19 ppg ... that may be doable. Love Kam and expecting great things from him next season. I'm not expecting 25 ppg - but would obviously love to be surprised.
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Re: Omax declares
« Reply #806 on: June 19, 2023, 01:44:03 PM »
Kam's most effective offense isn't from distance. It's when it puts the ball on the floor and gets to the basket. It's why he has a higher EFG than Markus at this point in his career.

Just to clarify…..you meant he has a better efg% now then Markus had for his career…….if you compare first 2 years to first 2 years……Markus had a  higher efg%.

In his last 2 seasons Markus took almost as many 2 point shots as 3 pointers……because of his size he had a much more difficult time finishing those shots…….in his sophomore season he shot 53% on his twos which was impressive.

When you bring free throws into the mix ….TS%…. Markus was higher then Kam,is currently.

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Re: Omax declares
« Reply #807 on: June 19, 2023, 01:57:04 PM »
MU listed Prosper at 230 lbs

According to this he weighed 212 at the combine……..just a little inflated.

https://twitter.com/nbadraftnet/status/1670839051530960896?s=61&t=zFSw_hvfi8FYxRkq8Mbc5g

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Re: Omax declares
« Reply #808 on: June 19, 2023, 02:04:21 PM »
MU listed Prosper at 230 lbs

According to this he weighed 212 at the combine……..just a little inflated.

https://twitter.com/nbadraftnet/status/1670839051530960896?s=61&t=zFSw_hvfi8FYxRkq8Mbc5g

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Re: Omax declares
« Reply #809 on: June 19, 2023, 02:48:04 PM »
College player’s heights and weights are often inflated.

I’m aware…..but 212 to 230 seems …….stay puft marshmallow man inflated……

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Re: Omax declares
« Reply #810 on: June 19, 2023, 02:51:15 PM »
I’m aware…..but 212 to 230 seems …….stay puft marshmallow man inflated……

Must have gotten off the Real Chili.

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Re: Omax declares
« Reply #811 on: June 19, 2023, 02:51:58 PM »
Must have gotten off the Real Chili.

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Re: Omax declares
« Reply #812 on: June 19, 2023, 03:08:24 PM »
Today was first time ive really looked at mock drafts extensively.

Omax in the first round of 5 out of the 6 i saw just off googling 2023 nba mock draft.

Seems like a really good bet he does get that 1st round contact.
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Re: Omax declares
« Reply #813 on: June 19, 2023, 04:13:40 PM »
MU listed Prosper at 230 lbs

According to this he weighed 212 at the combine……..just a little inflated.

https://twitter.com/nbadraftnet/status/1670839051530960896?s=61&t=zFSw_hvfi8FYxRkq8Mbc5g

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Re: Omax declares
« Reply #814 on: June 19, 2023, 04:52:01 PM »
Today was first time ive really looked at mock drafts extensively.

Omax in the first round of 5 out of the 6 i saw just off googling 2023 nba mock draft.

Seems like a really good bet he does get that 1st round contact.

Omax had to have been given a guarantee by a team otherwise why stay in the draft?
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Re: Omax declares
« Reply #815 on: June 19, 2023, 04:53:01 PM »
Omax had to have been given a guarantee by a team otherwise why stay in the draft?

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Re: Omax declares
« Reply #816 on: June 22, 2023, 11:10:10 PM »
At this point,  I think it's more likely that OMax goes in the first round than he doesn't get drafted. Been saying it since last season, OMax has the tools that the NBA lusts after

Yeah my post was a little hyperbolic. Just trying to convey the confidence I have in OMax getting drafted

Damn, shoulda stuck to my guns. Congrats to Omax!
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Re: Omax declares
« Reply #817 on: June 23, 2023, 05:06:29 AM »
Excellent article on Omax. Mavs scouted him at Big East Tournament
https://www.mavs.com/omax-drafted/
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Re: Omax declares
« Reply #818 on: June 23, 2023, 07:20:23 AM »
Excellent article on Omax. Mavs scouted him at Big East Tournament
https://www.mavs.com/omax-drafted/

Very little in there about his time at MU.

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Re: Omax declares
« Reply #819 on: June 23, 2023, 03:00:41 PM »
OMax's trajectory seems to be positive towards getting drafted. I think he gets picked up in the second round.
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« Reply #820 on: June 23, 2023, 11:48:54 PM »
These guns?

That was May 13. The post I quoted was the end of May 15. I wonder if anything happened between those two posts that gave new information....
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« Reply #821 on: June 24, 2023, 08:44:02 AM »
That was May 13. The post I quoted was the end of May 15. I wonder if anything happened between those two posts that gave new information....
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Re: Omax declares
« Reply #822 on: June 24, 2023, 10:13:35 AM »
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Givony’s 2024 draft board has TKO at #53. I’d probably put Oso a hair ahead of him, but Kolek is way overlooked in Consensus Scoop Projections™️. I think he could work his way into the first round if he takes another step forward with his jumper.

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Re: Omax declares
« Reply #823 on: June 24, 2023, 10:14:53 AM »
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Givony’s 2024 draft board has TKO at #53. I’d probably put Oso a hair ahead of him, but Kolek is way overlooked in Consensus Scoop Projections™️. I think he could work his way into the first round if he takes another step forward with his jumper.

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Re: Omax declares
« Reply #824 on: June 24, 2023, 10:16:42 AM »
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