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Author Topic: 2023-2024 Expectations  (Read 53366 times)

lawdog77

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Re: 2023-2024 Expectations
« Reply #350 on: June 06, 2023, 02:52:26 PM »
Lawdog

Omax did struggle offensively in those games and so did the team in many of them. Our best offensive games had the good Omax on offense.
Omax did not score over 17 points after Jan 3.His most assists in a game was 3. He had 24 assists for the year. On our 10 game win streak at the end of the year, Omax averaged 10 points a game. I think as much as some are undervaluing his defense, you are overvaluing his offense.

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Re: 2023-2024 Expectations
« Reply #351 on: June 06, 2023, 02:54:10 PM »
Not sure what FG% matters, but… disagree on Becky and X. Not bad in either

Vs Becky you left out 7p at the line (8 trips), only 1 turnover w 26% usage. ORtg 105

At X, no turnovers in 30 mins. 116 ORtg

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Re: 2023-2024 Expectations
« Reply #352 on: June 06, 2023, 02:57:42 PM »
Omax did not score over 17 points after Jan 3.His most assists in a game was 3. He had 24 assists for the year. On our 10 game win streak at the end of the year, Omax averaged 10 points a game. I think as much as some are undervaluing his defense, you are overvaluing his offense.

Or, put another way…, from Feb 25, OMax had an insane ORTG of 125.4, eFG% of 56.8%, and 44% FTrate

Wat iz we talm bout hurr???
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Re: 2023-2024 Expectations
« Reply #353 on: June 06, 2023, 03:12:42 PM »
Or, put another way…, from Feb 25, OMax had an insane ORTG of 125.4, eFG% of 56.8%, and 44% FTrate

Wat iz we talm bout hurr???
We're talking about him being the 4th best player on the offensive and.Oh, and he had 1 block, and 5 assists in that 8 game stretch.

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Re: 2023-2024 Expectations
« Reply #354 on: June 06, 2023, 03:14:21 PM »
Or, put another way…, from Feb 25, OMax had an insane ORTG of 125.4, eFG% of 56.8%, and 44% FTrate

Wat iz we talm bout hurr???
What was his usage?

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Re: 2023-2024 Expectations
« Reply #355 on: June 06, 2023, 04:15:37 PM »
What was his usage?

Over 17%, not crazy out of line with his overall

Low usage guy w low blk% = 2nd round?
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Re: 2023-2024 Expectations
« Reply #356 on: June 06, 2023, 04:54:01 PM »
Over 17%, not crazy out of line with his overall

Low usage guy w low blk% = 2nd round?
I'd be more worried about his assist percentage 3.9%

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Re: 2023-2024 Expectations
« Reply #357 on: June 06, 2023, 04:59:41 PM »
I'd be more worried about his assist percentage 3.9%

Many are.
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Re: 2023-2024 Expectations
« Reply #358 on: June 06, 2023, 05:39:54 PM »
OMax on the ball defense and overall elite defensive and athletic ability helped win Marquette several games.
His put back v Xavier was for my money the play of the year.

For his abilities and potential he underachieved imo.
If he was better and more assertive offensively Marquette would have won more games.
If he rebounded better and made more of the types of athletic plays defensively that he is likely capable of Marquette would have won more games.

He was at his worst offensively when the team needed him the most in the regular season- in many games Marquette lost he was poor and passive offensively, and he didn’t create for others.
He had some of his elite offensive games versus cupcakes and that padded his offensive stats.

He was also at his best defensively in some of Marquettes crucial games versus elite wings.
He played well in the tournament both seasons if memory serves.

All of the above can be true at the same time.
It’s also absolutely true that unfortunately he’s no longer at Marquette.
Good luck in professional ball, but next man up.


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Re: 2023-2024 Expectations
« Reply #359 on: June 06, 2023, 05:58:28 PM »
OMax on the ball defense and overall elite defensive and athletic ability helped win Marquette several games.
His put back v Xavier was for my money the play of the year.

For his abilities and potential he underachieved imo.
If he was better and more assertive offensively Marquette would have won more games.
If he rebounded better and made more of the types of athletic plays defensively that he is likely capable of Marquette would have won more games.

He was at his worst offensively when the team needed him the most in the regular season- in many games Marquette lost he was poor and passive offensively, and he didn’t create for others.
He had some of his elite offensive games versus cupcakes and that padded his offensive stats.

He was also at his best defensively in some of Marquettes crucial games versus elite wings.
He played well in the tournament both seasons if memory serves.

All of the above can be true at the same time.
It’s also absolutely true that unfortunately he’s no longer at Marquette.
Good luck in professional ball, but next man up.


but there is no way this team can be equal or better next year without him...   

No way Gold, Joplin, or Ross step up their game significantly.  No way any of the other 4 returning starters improve their game, no way any of the freshman contribute significantly, no way Shaka tweaks his offensive or defensive strategy maximizing different players without Omax...


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Re: 2023-2024 Expectations
« Reply #360 on: June 06, 2023, 06:55:20 PM »

but there is no way this team can be equal or better next year without him...   

No way Gold, Joplin, or Ross step up their game significantly.  No way any of the other 4 returning starters improve their game, no way any of the freshman contribute significantly, no way Shaka tweaks his offensive or defensive strategy maximizing different players without Omax...

Has anyone said any of this?
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Re: 2023-2024 Expectations
« Reply #361 on: June 06, 2023, 10:18:17 PM »
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Re: 2023-2024 Expectations
« Reply #362 on: June 07, 2023, 09:41:35 AM »
No.

Says “Mr 6th to 8th seed prediction”


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Re: 2023-2024 Expectations
« Reply #363 on: June 07, 2023, 10:12:53 AM »
Kolek was the MVP last year and Omax was the most important player. Anyone that does not know the value he brought to the team last year must not have watched very closely. I find crazy that there would be any debate over the value Omax brought to the team, but I am not surprised.

Yep.

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Re: 2023-2024 Expectations
« Reply #364 on: June 07, 2023, 10:55:12 AM »
Says “Mr 6th to 8th seed prediction”

"I would be slightly disappointed but not surprised if they lost like 11 or 12 games and got a 6 to 8 seed. Just for reference, Baylor was a 3 seed with 10 losses last year so 6 to 8 might be a bit low, but still...wouldn't surprise me."

That's what I said. No where in there did I make definitive prediction and even said 6 to 8 might be a little low.
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Re: 2023-2024 Expectations
« Reply #365 on: June 07, 2023, 11:32:37 AM »
"I would be slightly disappointed but not surprised if they lost like 11 or 12 games and got a 6 to 8 seed. Just for reference, Baylor was a 3 seed with 10 losses last year so 6 to 8 might be a bit low, but still...wouldn't surprise me."

That's what I said. No where in there did I make definitive prediction and even said 6 to 8 might be a little low.

You also were going to be disappointed but not surprised if we lost to Redford last year.

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Re: 2023-2024 Expectations
« Reply #366 on: June 07, 2023, 12:36:15 PM »
You also were going to be disappointed but not surprised if we lost to Redford last year.

*If Radford kept it close
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Re: 2023-2024 Expectations
« Reply #367 on: June 07, 2023, 03:24:25 PM »
You also were going to be disappointed but not surprised if we lost to Redford last year.

Thank goodness Newman didn't also show up, or they woulda really stung us.
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Re: 2023-2024 Expectations
« Reply #368 on: June 07, 2023, 03:50:27 PM »
Bravo
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Re: 2023-2024 Expectations
« Reply #369 on: June 07, 2023, 04:40:11 PM »
After listening to the Shaka presser my expectations have risen for this upcoming season. His level of confidence in the guys on the roster is real and who I am to doubt it. I think he is confident that there is will be real upside improvement and loved his comment that being 43rd in D is not going to cut it.

Will note, I have tried extremely hard to be the Shaka kool aide drinker and my thoughts are based of off what he said and the success they have had the last two years.

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Re: 2023-2024 Expectations
« Reply #370 on: June 07, 2023, 04:46:09 PM »
It sounded like MU is not searching the transfer portal.
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Re: 2023-2024 Expectations
« Reply #371 on: June 07, 2023, 06:48:32 PM »
I continue to expect Marquette to be excellent next season. We should be strong contenders to win the conference title and have a nice March run. The Final Four is absolutely attainable.
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Re: 2023-2024 Expectations
« Reply #372 on: June 07, 2023, 09:09:11 PM »
After listening to the Shaka presser my expectations have risen for this upcoming season. His level of confidence in the guys on the roster is real and who I am to doubt it. I think he is confident that there is will be real upside improvement and loved his comment that being 43rd in D is not going to cut it.

Will note, I have tried extremely hard to be the Shaka kool aide drinker and my thoughts are based of off what he said and the success they have had the last two years.

Loved Shaka highlighting the potential of the sophomores to make a big leap. Really feels like the key for MU to get where they want to be next season.

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Re: 2023-2024 Expectations
« Reply #373 on: June 23, 2023, 07:20:59 AM »
I don’t know if the link will work because it’s an Instagram story, but my god this pass from Kolek is stupid good. Running to his left, doubled, out near half court, throws it on the run one handed for an ally oop. I don’t know that there are 10 people in the world that can make this pass.

https://instagram.com/stories/hidden_talent_k/3130898427026047336?utm_source=ig_story_item_share&igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

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Re: 2023-2024 Expectations
« Reply #374 on: July 22, 2023, 10:45:21 PM »
Zaide Lowery with a monster block of Al Amadou.

That looked personal. Jeesh!

https://twitter.com/tammarag/status/1682911412593541120?t=lrJawdU0__l2C1aaqHvypA&s=19
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