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Author Topic: We could’ve won this tournament  (Read 18055 times)

CountryRoads

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Re: We could’ve won this tournament
« Reply #100 on: March 25, 2023, 06:05:50 PM »
Y’all are insane with this takes. Feel like a coping mechanism more than anything.

If Marquette goes to the Elite 8 next year, and finished say, third in conference this season will be a blip on the radar.

Would you take Xavier’s season over ours?

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Re: We could’ve won this tournament
« Reply #101 on: March 25, 2023, 06:10:19 PM »
Y’all are insane with this takes. Feel like a coping mechanism more than anything.

If Marquette goes to the Elite 8 next year, and finished say, third in conference this season will be a blip on the radar.

Always nice to see people who are respectful of the opinions of others who don’t see things exactly the way they do.

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Re: We could’ve won this tournament
« Reply #102 on: March 25, 2023, 06:47:33 PM »
An open 15’ should be a better percentage shot than a contested 2 at the rim.

That’s just not true at all. The best rim individual defenders at the rim in the NBA allow opposing players to shoot 50% when they’re contesting shots at the rim. The best mid range shooter in the NBA shot 55% in the mid range.
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Re: We could’ve won this tournament
« Reply #103 on: March 25, 2023, 06:49:42 PM »
That’s just not true at all. The best rim individual defenders at the rim in the NBA allow opposing players to shoot 50% when they’re contesting shots at the rim. The best mid range shooter in the NBA shot 55% in the mid range.

How many point blank shots did Stevie miss this year?  He would definitely be well served to have a mid range game.  Even Tyler, despite all the crazy shots he made this year.

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Re: We could’ve won this tournament
« Reply #104 on: March 25, 2023, 06:53:41 PM »
I don’t think we need to rewrite our system. We had an incredible season. We didn’t show up in a do or die game, which stunk. But sign me up for this regular season every year and I’ll take my chances in March.
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Re: We could’ve won this tournament
« Reply #105 on: March 25, 2023, 07:25:48 PM »
I don’t think we need to rewrite our system. We had an incredible season. We didn’t show up in a do or die game, which stunk. But sign me up for this regular season every year and I’ll take my chances in March.

Agreed. Keep bringing good teams to the tournament and we will breakthrough. That’s why I don’t think we should discount the dual Big East Championship. This was a very good team that I think struggled with being the hunted in the tournament. They ran into an experienced team that has a coach that’s great in March.

I think Shaka is going to have us in the 2/3 conversation a lot, and we will make some noise.

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Re: We could’ve won this tournament
« Reply #106 on: March 25, 2023, 07:35:13 PM »
One thing I notice a lot more than what I see with Marquette is a lot more downhill play from all guards on the court for teams that are advancing. Secondary guards seem much more aggressive going to the hoop than ours.
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Re: We could’ve won this tournament
« Reply #107 on: March 25, 2023, 07:48:22 PM »
One thing I notice a lot more than what I see with Marquette is a lot more downhill play from all guards on the court for teams that are advancing. Secondary guards seem much more aggressive going to the hoop than ours.


Finishing through contact should be a skill development focus for most of the team this summer.

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Re: We could’ve won this tournament
« Reply #108 on: March 25, 2023, 07:50:02 PM »
wades

Exactly right on the guard play. That is an area that needs a big step forward next season.

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Re: We could’ve won this tournament
« Reply #109 on: March 25, 2023, 07:51:19 PM »
Would you take wisconsins final four nit over ours?

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Re: We could’ve won this tournament
« Reply #110 on: March 25, 2023, 07:51:37 PM »
How many point blank shots did Stevie miss this year?  He would definitely be well served to have a mid range game.  Even Tyler, despite all the crazy shots he made this year.

Agree with needing a mid-range game. I'm not saying we need to be taking a lot of these shots, because 90% of the time our paint scoring/3pt shooting focused offense will get the job done, BUT when teams are taking one of these away we need to have guys who have a mid range game in their back pocket (ala Daryl Morsell).

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Re: We could’ve won this tournament
« Reply #111 on: March 25, 2023, 08:01:01 PM »
MU has two incoming guards that look like a great fit in size and style. Chase Ross is going to be a closer and he is the type of player needed in March.

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Re: We could’ve won this tournament
« Reply #112 on: March 25, 2023, 08:04:14 PM »
Would you take wisconsins final four nit over ours?

Probably. A win over Marquette proves that 12th place in the Big 10 is tougher than winning the Big East.

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Re: We could’ve won this tournament
« Reply #113 on: March 25, 2023, 08:13:05 PM »
One thing I notice a lot more than what I see with Marquette is a lot more downhill play from all guards on the court for teams that are advancing. Secondary guards seem much more aggressive going to the hoop than ours.

Almost all of Koleks points come downhill to the basket. Stevie's points almost all come at the rim.  Kam one of the best finishers at the rim in the country.
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Re: We could’ve won this tournament
« Reply #114 on: March 25, 2023, 08:15:23 PM »
Almost all of Koleks points come downhill to the basket. Stevie's points almost all come at the rim.  Kam one of the best finishers at the rim in the country.

Kolek turned into a downhill player the last two weeks of the season. Stevie is not a threat to score off the bounce in the half court and Kam is a finesse player around the rim.

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Re: We could’ve won this tournament
« Reply #115 on: March 25, 2023, 08:16:15 PM »
You are not allowed to say positive things about MU players when posters are ranting about everything wrong.   It is in the by-laws.

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Re: We could’ve won this tournament
« Reply #116 on: March 25, 2023, 08:16:39 PM »
Kolek turned into a downhill player the last two weeks of the season. Stevie is not a threat to score off the bounce in the half court and Kam is a finesse player around the rim.

Yet
Ramsey head thoroughly up his ass.

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Re: We could’ve won this tournament
« Reply #117 on: March 25, 2023, 08:17:06 PM »
Kolek turned into a downhill player the last two weeks of the season. Stevie is not a threat to score off the bounce in the half court and Kam is a finesse player around the rim.

Kam finished through contact at the rim numerous times this season as did Kolek and OMax(kinda a guard for this team).
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Re: We could’ve won this tournament
« Reply #118 on: March 25, 2023, 08:23:24 PM »

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Re: We could’ve won this tournament
« Reply #119 on: March 25, 2023, 08:30:36 PM »
Good programs give themselves opportunities on a regular basis.  The current coach is going to do that
Ramsey head thoroughly up his ass.

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Re: We could’ve won this tournament
« Reply #120 on: March 25, 2023, 08:43:34 PM »
Kolek turned into a downhill player the last two weeks of the season. Stevie is not a threat to score off the bounce in the half court and Kam is a finesse player around the rim.

Didn’t Marquette have one of the best 2-point percentages in the country? 

So what if Kam was a finesse player around the rim if he finished well?

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Re: We could’ve won this tournament
« Reply #121 on: March 25, 2023, 08:45:59 PM »
We were 317th in free throw rate this season. We did not get down hill going to the rim enough.
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Re: We could’ve won this tournament
« Reply #122 on: March 25, 2023, 08:47:52 PM »
Believe it or not but the team can become more consistent and better if we finish through contact more frequently. Guards yes but Oso and OMax could make a leap if they improve this. Sensitive group tonight. 

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Re: We could’ve won this tournament
« Reply #123 on: March 25, 2023, 08:48:44 PM »
Yes, MU's offensive efficiency was predicated on

2 pt efficiency
Little to no mid range game
Average 3 pt shooting
Not turning  the ball over.

So, now, the zeitgeist is that MU should do everything different.

I love scoop.
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Re: We could’ve won this tournament
« Reply #124 on: March 25, 2023, 08:49:23 PM »
One thing I notice a lot more than what I see with Marquette is a lot more downhill play from all guards on the court for teams that are advancing. Secondary guards seem much more aggressive going to the hoop than ours.
This is a good take