2023 Portal Transfers

[The Equalizer]

Will he be refunding his signing bonus?

By law and NCAA regulation, NIL payments can't be contingent on a player attending a particular school.

[bilsu]

If MU needed a guard, sure.

Caleb Love is not a team player. He was the biggest reason UNC was a disappointment this year.

[jfp61]

Caleb Love is not a team player. He was the biggest reason UNC was a disappointment this year.

This is 100% true, however despite that he was the third best player on UNC last year though. He would be the 6th best player on marquette. I wouldn't want him this year, however, Love still isn't a bad player, and most years i would want him despite how crazy he would make me.

The reason UNC was a disappointment last year is because their bench was ABYSSMAL.  Neither RJ Davis or Armando Bacot played better than Marquette's 3 best players. And both of them played only a tiny bit better than Kam Jones. Stevie Mitchell outplay every UNC player but those two aswell. 

Leaky Black, Pete Nance, Puff Johnson, Seth Trimble, Demarco Dunn, Tyler Nickel, Jalen Washington, and however else played, were not good enough.

Most of that... was poor coaching. They couldn't run any offense without Love. And they really couldn't play defense with him.

[GoldenEagles03]

Not sure on details, but there are rumors that Georgetown ripped Cam Spencer away from Rutgers in a really "shady/sickening" way as some on Twitter are calling it.

College Hoops in 2023!

[jfp61]

Not sure on details, but there are rumors that Georgetown ripped Cam Spencer away from Rutgers in a really "shady/sickening" way as some on Twitter are calling it.

College Hoops in 2023!

i kinda doubt that... because unless Georgetown is getting 2-3 more really good recruits, they arn't overly competitive this year.

They have Cam Spencer, Jayden Epps and maybe Mutumbo is okay. Like if they play well.. thats max like the 35th best team.

[GoldenEagles03]

i kinda doubt that... because unless Georgetown is getting 2-3 more really good recruits, they arn't overly competitive this year.

They have Cam Spencer, Jayden Epps and maybe Mutumbo is okay. Like if they play well.. thats max like the 35th best team.

How is any of that relevant to what you quoted?

[jfp61]

How is any of that relevant to what you quoted?

because why would Georgetown "rip" players away for a team that most likely isn't ready to compete.

If Georgetown makes the NIT this year with that roster, it would be a success.

[jfp61]

Im amused by the existence of this Lance Ware recruiting battle. I have no clue why Providence and Villanova both want him.

He has been a bad player for 3 straight years.

[GoldenEagles03]

because why would Georgetown "rip" players away for a team that most likely isn't ready to compete.

If Georgetown makes the NIT this year with that roster, it would be a success.

Huh?

Why wouldn't Georgetown try and make their roster better at all costs whenever and however possible?

[The Equalizer]

because why would Georgetown "rip" players away for a team that most likely isn't ready to compete.

If Georgetown makes the NIT this year with that roster, it would be a success.

I think you underestimate Georgetown.  Over the last two seasons, Cooley has been effective at building a team around transfers and getting them to perform.  As you look at the rostrers, there's a case to be made that they're middle of the pack in the Big East, ahead of DePaul, Butler, Seton Hall and Providence.  They're clearly behind MU, UConn and Creighton, and probably behind Xavier.  So 5th to 7th place?  Seems like the range where one more good player could make a huge difference.

[jfp61]

Huh?

Why wouldn't Georgetown try and make their roster better at all costs whenever and however possible?

Georgetown going after an available player they like, makes sense.

Georgetown deciding randomly to "rip Cam Spencer away from Rutgers in a really shady/sickening way" in a year where their roster isn't really good yet, makes no sense.

If the issue was a matter of NIL, my guess is Cam Spencer was having someone find a spot for him to make money.

I don't think it makes sense this year, for Georgetown to try and  "steal" 1 year from a grad transfer in this way.

The rutgers story sounds like BS.

[TSmith34, Inc.]

Michigan requires actual classes?

It's fortunate that you are retired or keefe would be squealing to your HR department in retribution for throwing shade at the maize and blue.

[tower912]

Who?

[jfp61]

I think you underestimate Georgetown.  Over the last two seasons, Cooley has been effective at building a team around transfers and getting them to perform.  As you look at the rostrers, there's a case to be made that they're middle of the pack in the Big East, ahead of DePaul, Butler, Seton Hall and Providence.  They're clearly behind MU, UConn and Creighton, and probably behind Xavier.  So 5th to 7th place?  Seems like the range where one more good player could make a huge difference.

How is Georgetown's roster better than Providence's? Even if you think English is a bad coach.

Seton Hall's is close. I would give hall the edge with Richmond, Davis, Sanders and Wusu together. Their floor is higher.

As of today, even with Spencer, Georgetown's roster is roster is like the 75th best team. Its basically just Epps and Spencer. Their ceiling today is probably the 40s.

Cooley has been on a great stretch of squeaking out wins late with his guys, but his recent teams with much more talent than this one,  still finished in the 40s at PC.

[TedBaxter]

https://twitter.com/trillydonovan/status/1660446916537098240

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

I don't love Shaka's portal strategy.

I know he used the portal year one a ton because he needed bodies, and obviously Marquette kept all of their top guys from transferring this offseason, but I feel like it's gonna catch up with him eventually.

[jfp61]

https://twitter.com/trillydonovan/status/1660446916537098240

yep.. That booster West Virginia loves his European recruits... and he is great at figuring it out for them

[TedBaxter]

I don't love Shaka's portal strategy.

I know he used the portal year one a ton because he needed bodies, and obviously Marquette kept all of their top guys from transferring this offseason, but I feel like it's gonna catch up with him eventually.

The NIL puts a whole new spin on the portal. 

[jfp61]

I don't love Shaka's portal strategy.

I know he used the portal year one a ton because he needed bodies, and obviously Marquette kept all of their top guys from transferring this offseason, but I feel like it's gonna catch up with him eventually.

I literally have heard this  exact sentence about every coach though.

I have heard it said about guys like Cooley and Musselman who use it constantly, and about guys like Painter and Smart who use more it sparingly.

There is no right or wrong answer.


The only thing about the Shaka Smart transfer "targets", (to the degree that they ever where considered targets), is he clearly values relationships with each of them.

Guys from the same city as Omax (i.e. Jahmyl Telfort and Tyrese Samuel).
Guys who played in the league before (Tyrese Samuel ).
Guys who played for teams and programs the staff was familiar with (Andrew Rohde and Aly Kahlifa).

The biggest indicator of this was the recruitment of Zach Wrightsil

Wrightsil's assistant coach at Loyola New Orleans was  Javan Felix. Felix was Shaka Smarts point guard his first year at Texas.

You talk to any coach, you realize how much  "intel" Shaka has on each of his recruits. It's actually ridiculous.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

I don't love Shaka's portal strategy.

I know he used the portal year one a ton because he needed bodies, and obviously Marquette kept all of their top guys from transferring this offseason, but I feel like it's gonna catch up with him eventually.

There were no public whispers of Kolek or OMax transferring before it happened. I wouldn't assume that just because we don't hear much that means that Shaka isn't portalling. His team plays things very close to the chest.

[bilsu]

I don't love Shaka's portal strategy.

I know he used the portal year one a ton because he needed bodies, and obviously Marquette kept all of their top guys from transferring this offseason, but I feel like it's gonna catch up with him eventually.

I like Shaka's loyalty to the players he has. The players in the portal are either looking for more playing time or more money. They are not going to get more playing time and I am not in favor of mercenaries.

[The Equalizer]

Im amused by the existence of this Lance Ware recruiting battle. I have no clue why Providence and Villanova both want him.

He has been a bad player for 3 straight years.

Villanova wins this battle.

[Goose]

I think there definitely work being done on the portal front and it will be a guy that fits the culture and the needs for next season. As TAMU noted, Omax and Kolek were under the radar until they signed.

[Juan Anderson's Mixtape]

I remember reading Marquette was pursuing Kolek over on Dodds' board, though I didn't know how big of a priority Kolek was.

O-Max was completely out of the blue.

[jfp61]

Villanova wins this battle.

did they? lol.

I am so confused why both schools really wanted him still. Providence and Villanova both decided to go all out for a senior forward with 1-2 years of eligibility left. Who has never played better than Freshman year Ben Gold Played last year.

Just because he went to Kentucky i guess. that's the only explanation.