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Author Topic: NIL, transfers, and 2024-25.  (Read 12717 times)

Tyler COLEk

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Re: NIL, transfers, and 2024-25.
« Reply #100 on: March 03, 2023, 03:49:58 PM »
Between Crean becoming coach in '99 and Shaka in '21 how many times have we had a full compliment of Scholarship players not counting walk-ons. I probably could count those one hand. History would suggest lack of player retention was pretty much endemic culminating with the Hausers. My feeling about NIL are still not optimistic about how it will affect the MU basketball program, not the players; but willing to see how all this plays out over the next few seasons.

If relationships and connectivity are real the program will survive as MU's money brokers will come through if they want a competitive team like we have now. However, will the same connectivity/chemistry translate to future recruits. We are all in uncharted waters as there are no rules.

That kind of turnover has been par for the course in college basketball. Not saying it won’t still happen under Shaka, or that it won’t get worse around college hoops in the wake of the transfer portal and NIL.

I’m just predicting Marquette will be well above average in player retention moving forward. Can’t say I know what that “average” will be.

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Re: NIL, transfers, and 2024-25.
« Reply #101 on: March 03, 2023, 04:43:22 PM »
This

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Re: NIL, transfers, and 2024-25.
« Reply #102 on: March 03, 2023, 05:51:05 PM »
I think you are spot on, Two Words.

Even the guys you might reasonably expect to leave, like Ellis or Itijere, have very close bonds with Shaka. I think they would only go if Shaka recommended it and found them a place where they could find likely success.

Allegedly, these two have already made it known they will be transferring, and this has been known since at least January. If true, apparently this hasn't caused any issues in the locker room.

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Re: NIL, transfers, and 2024-25.
« Reply #103 on: March 03, 2023, 06:24:08 PM »
I’ve always felt that NIL is there to mostly benefit those 10-20 guys who were getting crazy money under the table. While most schools are doing collectives like this or other ways to get compensation to all or most players, they are unlikely to really pay up for more than the true stars. Witness Dennis Evans, UMn signee who
suddenly wants out of he commitment to the B1G’s worst team, but only to go to Louisville whose record is arguably worse but NIL options are arguably better. So, Kolek is at risk but probably won’t want to sit out a year. I don’t really see other players anyone is going to want to cash out for. And if players want to leave, so be it. We will survive, as always.
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Re: NIL, transfers, and 2024-25.
« Reply #104 on: March 03, 2023, 06:34:01 PM »
Then stop wasting your time on a message board with anonymous fans and get back to work, work harder, make more money and donate it so you can pay for smart but financially disadvantaged kids to go to college instead of discussing athletes who will make way more than you ever will (way to salary cap yourself, COLE) for being good at throwing a ball through a ring.
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Re: NIL, transfers, and 2024-25.
« Reply #105 on: March 03, 2023, 07:03:03 PM »
I wondered why our defense had improved so much. Nice to have a former NFL defensive rookie of the year on the team

I think he replaced Justin Fields.  ;)

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Re: NIL, transfers, and 2024-25.
« Reply #106 on: March 03, 2023, 07:09:47 PM »
Hey @ElonMusk/Ners.  Since your charity of choice for our bet was Boys and Girls Club (if I remember correctly), and since some of the funds that go to the collective go towards Boys and Girls Club but also support the team/players, what do you think about me donating the bet to the collective?  Happy to send it all to Boys and Girls Club if that's what you'd like, but thought this would be a way to also support the men's basketball program.

BTD NIL should be the official charity of all future Scoop board bets.
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Re: NIL, transfers, and 2024-25.
« Reply #107 on: March 03, 2023, 09:02:49 PM »
All the "eyeballs" at LSU are on this athlete. NIL...ca caching, caching.

https://www.the-sun.com/sport/5853521/olivia-dunne-gynmast-tiktok-instagram-lsu-athletics/

And she just promoted and showed herself using a company that is considered academic misconduct.

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Re: NIL, transfers, and 2024-25.
« Reply #108 on: March 03, 2023, 10:29:16 PM »
This could be a good weekend for incoming NIL money. There is a large number of formers players that played for Al in town for a reunion and the game. Hoping they all brought their wallets.

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« Reply #109 on: March 03, 2023, 10:42:34 PM »
Allegedly, these two have already made it known they will be transferring, and this has been known since at least January. If true, apparently this hasn't caused any issues in the locker room.

That’s a shame, if true. Keeyans athleticism is super intriguing.
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« Reply #110 on: March 03, 2023, 11:39:34 PM »
That’s a shame, if true. Keeyans athleticism is super intriguing.

Sure, but how long can you afford to wait for the athleticism to translate into the court?

He had a whole red shirt year and cannot see the floor when there’s a need for a backup 5.

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« Reply #111 on: March 04, 2023, 12:13:58 AM »
Allegedly, these two have already made it known they will be transferring, and this has been known since at least January. If true, apparently this hasn't caused any issues in the locker room.

Shame if EE is transferring. Think he has the highest ceiling of all the guards if he has a jumper going.
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Re: NIL, transfers, and 2024-25.
« Reply #112 on: March 04, 2023, 01:24:19 AM »
Shame if EE is transferring. Think he has the highest ceiling of all the guards if he has a jumper going.

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Re: NIL, transfers, and 2024-25.
« Reply #114 on: March 04, 2023, 09:28:15 AM »
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Nothing bothers me more than someone who says “who will make more than I ever make” etc.

If these kids make more than you do it’s going to be because they put in incredible hours in grade school, HS & college to get to that point.  High end D1 talent sacrifice more life events than most of us can even imagine.

If you want to give to EOP type student, that’s great.  But don’t bring in how much money Oso will make down the road.  Oso is putting in CEO hours for basketball while having a full time MU credit load.  Don’t begrudge his future success. It’s unseemly.  That’s not MU.  We cheer for all of us to succeed. 
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Re: NIL, transfers, and 2024-25.
« Reply #115 on: March 04, 2023, 09:34:07 AM »
The Lens

There is no dollar amount these guys can make that I would not be off the charts excited for them. I hope every guy makes big time cash at MU next year. Pay the men their money!!!

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« Reply #116 on: March 04, 2023, 10:37:26 AM »
Sure, but how long can you afford to wait for the athleticism to translate into the court?

He had a whole red shirt year and cannot see the floor when there’s a need for a backup 5.

I get it, but you can’t play 13 guys. He’s a perfectly acceptable 13th man that could turn into a lottery ticket. But something has to give and of all the rostered players he is the most obvious change of scenery candidate. Certainly would understand the move from his perspective.
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Re: NIL, transfers, and 2024-25.
« Reply #117 on: March 12, 2023, 11:11:13 PM »
Tyler Kolek appears to have a partnership with TKO Investment Banking

https://youtu.be/IzmyBRobKds
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Re: NIL, transfers, and 2024-25.
« Reply #118 on: March 13, 2023, 11:57:16 AM »
The Big East Tournament is a huge plus for us.  Playing on the biggest stage in front of a packed house can’t hurt for NIL opportunities. 

The only thing better is deep runs in the NCAA tournament.
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« Reply #119 on: March 13, 2023, 12:08:35 PM »
Have the shoe companies gotten involved with this yet?  You would think Jordan Brand would have a vested interest in supporting their schools (or steering people to their schools). 

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« Reply #120 on: March 13, 2023, 12:36:43 PM »
Explains the scholarship table

If all 9 players comeback or even 8, you still have 11 or 12 players back, can really only play 10, so Tre will get some PT time and I do like What I have seen from Lowery, only so much playing time to go around.  I do believe recruiting top players in the future will happen. I would not be surprised if a top 30 player calls Shaka.

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Re: NIL, transfers, and 2024-25.
« Reply #121 on: March 13, 2023, 01:36:18 PM »
Hey @ElonMusk/Ners.  Since your charity of choice for our bet was Boys and Girls Club (if I remember correctly), and since some of the funds that go to the collective go towards Boys and Girls Club but also support the team/players, what do you think about me donating the bet to the collective?  Happy to send it all to Boys and Girls Club if that's what you'd like, but thought this would be a way to also support the men's basketball program.

Glad Kolek has proved me wrong.  He has improved his scoring ability, both from inside the arc and outside, far more than I thought he was capable of.  And he should be recognized as the BEPOY as a result.  Hope he rakes in a ton of cash off of his tshirts.

Yes - 100% support making the donation to our NIL fund.  Do it!

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« Reply #122 on: March 13, 2023, 01:42:30 PM »
All's well that ends well for wades and Ners.

Kolek finds his 3-point shot, benefiting Marquette.

Ners wins the bet, with the money going to the NIL fund, benefiting Marquette (and, indirectly, select charities).

This is just beautiful, guys!

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Re: NIL, transfers, and 2024-25.
« Reply #123 on: March 13, 2023, 02:21:43 PM »
All payouts from wagers between scoopers on MUScoop go to the Marquette Collective as agreed to in the user agreements we all signed as a condition of our use of this site to post our nonsense…

Trust me. It’s true. Believe me. Check for yourself!

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Re: NIL, transfers, and 2024-25.
« Reply #124 on: March 13, 2023, 02:39:53 PM »
Tyler Kolek appears to have a partnership with TKO Investment Banking

https://youtu.be/IzmyBRobKds

...better tha SVB.

 

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