2023 NFL Draft/Offseason

[Pakuni]

Jimmy G to the Raiders.

Counting down to AR to the Jets.

In a world where Danny Dimes gets 4/$160, with $82 million guaranteed, 3/$67.5, with $34 million guaranteed for Jimmy G is a steal.

[Dish]

Bears didn't want to give $60 million guaranteed to Roquan because an off-ball linebacker isn't that valuable, but they give a $50 million guarantee to Tremaine Edmunds.
Hmmm.
In fairness, they did get a late 2nd out of the deal, but it's still a downgrade for minimal savings.

They essentially spent $24M on Edmunds/Edwards/2nd round pick (plus put themselves in a better position to tank without Smith), instead of paying $20M for Roquan.

And I'm not disagreeing necessarily with you, just pointing out their overall jostling here.

[Pakuni]

They essentially spent $24M on Edmunds/Edwards/2nd round pick (plus put themselves in a better position to tank without Smith), instead of paying $20M for Roquan.

And I'm not disagreeing necessarily with you, just pointing out their overall jostling here.

I suppose.
I would imagine that they would have had no problem adding Edwards with Roquan still in the fold, so that's probably not an either/or.
More realistically, you're swapping Roquan for Edmunds, the 53rd pick and a sliver of cap savings. That 53rd pick may make it worth it eventually, but the cap impact seems pretty minimal (at least without seeing the full breakdown). We'll see.

[Dish]

I suppose.
I would imagine that they would have had no problem adding Edwards with Roquan still in the fold, so that's probably not an either/or.
More realistically, you're swapping Roquan for Edmunds, the 53rd pick and a sliver of cap savings. That 53rd pick may make it worth it eventually, but the cap impact seems pretty minimal (at least without seeing the full breakdown). We'll see.

I think a valid criticism is that they're spending on LB's, while shedding a pro bowl caliber LB, and not investing as much (yet?) in the o-line and d-line. That's a totally fair assessment I wouldn't disagree with.

[MU82]

In a world where Danny Dimes gets 4/$160, with $82 million guaranteed, 3/$67.5, with $34 million guaranteed for Jimmy G is a steal.

Was thinking the exact same thing. Although it's hard to put a dollar value on the games he'll miss due to injury.

[Dish]

I was at the airport in Vegas on Sunday and there's a Raiders store in terminal C. I was looking around and saw one sale sign in the store "All Darren Waller jerseys/shirts 50% off", and thought it was either weird or the store management was told by someone who knows things that Waller was no longer going to be a Raider.

Sure enough, he's been traded.

[JWags85]

Have to think Waller's injury history plays into it, given the last 2 years.  Cause a 3rd for 2020 Waller seems like a steal.

Also, brutal trade coming 10 days after he marries Kelsey Plum, fellow LV based star athlete.  Fortunately for them, there is really now overlap between NFL and WNBA seasons.  And perhaps, given their now combined earnings, she eschews the lucrative off-season club deals in Europe most WNBA stars play.

[Pakuni]

Have to think Waller's injury history plays into it, given the last 2 years.  Cause a 3rd for 2020 Waller seems like a steal.

Also, brutal trade coming 10 days after he marries Kelsey Plum, fellow LV based star athlete.  Fortunately for them, there is really now overlap between NFL and WNBA seasons.  And perhaps, given their now combined earnings, she eschews the lucrative off-season club deals in Europe most WNBA stars play.

Health seems likely to have played a big part in this. Waller has made only 17 starts the past two seasons and turns 31 in September. Players don't often get healthier as they get on the wrong side of 30.
Still, a late 3rd isn't bad for a guy on a reasonable contract who can be elite when healthy. Seems like a decent gamble for the Giants.

[GB Warrior]

Everytime I refresh Twitter, the terrorists (Aaron Rodgers) win

[Pakuni]

Looking forward to the Panthers' QB1 tweet.

@AdamSchefter
Veteran free-agent QB Andy Dalton is expected to reach agreement on a two-year, $10 million deal that includes $8 million fully guaranteed with the Carolina Panthers, per source. Contract max value is $17 million.

[ZiggysFryBoy]

Looking forward to the Panthers' QB1 tweet.

@AdamSchefter
Veteran free-agent QB Andy Dalton is expected to reach agreement on a two-year, $10 million deal that includes $8 million fully guaranteed with the Carolina Panthers, per source. Contract max value is $17 million.

That 2024 1st rounder is looking like another #1 for the Bears.

[Dish]

The Raiders signing as many ex Patriots as they can should surely work out well for Josh McDaniels.

[tower912]

It worked out for the Lions under Quinntricia.

[jesmu84]

Is Aaron effectively the offensive GM of the Jets right now?

[Jockey]

Is Aaron effectively the offensive GM of the Jets right now?

Isn't that a conflict of interest?

He owns one team and is the GM of a different team.

[jesmu84]

300,000 folks are watching McAfee show today to see Aaron speak

[wadesworld]

300,000 folks are watching McAfee show today to see Aaron speak

Can't imagine a situation where I'd ever watch that show.

[jesmu84]

Per Aaron, he will play for the jets this season. Pack/NY working out compensation

[Dish]

I look forward to Jordan Love having a HOF career and 15 years from now asking for a trade to the Jets.

[Jockey]

Can't imagine a situation where I'd ever watch that show.

Pat's entertaining. AJ is an anchor.

[Hards Alumni]

I look forward to Jordan Love having a HOF career and 15 years from now asking for a trade to the Jets.

But this time can we get one more Super Bowl out of a HOF QB?

[GB Warrior]

Per Aaron, he will play for the jets this season. Pack/NY working out compensation

Outside of not wanting to be the "bad guys" there's not a lot of football reasons for the Packers to lowball themselves. Jets basically have the choice of trading up for a rookie, signing Lamar Jackson and pissing off owners, or Rodgers. Their best free agent option is probably Brissett. The "real" money is a legitimate reason for the Packers to get out from under it. But that is also not imminent

[Dish]

As a pure football fan, I'm excited to see Love get an offseason as the guy and see what he can do. Very short sample size, but the confidence he showed in that Eagles game was impressive, he looked great in that game, it wasn't something I had seen out of him (again, short sample size) previously.

[Shaka Shart]

As a pure football fan, I'm excited to see Love get an offseason as the guy and see what he can do. Very short sample size, but the confidence he showed in that Eagles game was impressive, he looked great in that game, it wasn't something I had seen out of him (again, short sample size) previously.

Matt Flynn too

[Dish]

Jalen Carter might be undraftable. I mean I know he'll get drafted, but under no circumstance can you show up to your pro day workout out of shape and be so gassed you can't finish drills.

That's not even adding in his arrest and alleged character issues.