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Author Topic: 2023 NFL Draft/Offseason  (Read 21102 times)

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2023 NFL Draft/Offseason
« on: February 28, 2023, 11:32:43 AM »
Seeing as the 22-23 NFL Season is over, this makes the most sense.

Reports yesterday that the Bears are leaning towards shopping the #1 pick, as most anticipated.  I'll keep my enthusiasm limited, but if they could trade #1 to the Texans, move to #2, and then trade #2 to the Colts and move to #4 and STILL get Carter?  I don't even know how to process that kind of joy.
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Re: 2023 NFL Draft
« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2023, 11:37:38 AM »
Lions fan says thank you LA Rams and Matthew Stafford.   

Detroit had better go defense with their two first round picks.
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Re: 2023 NFL Draft
« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2023, 11:46:28 AM »
Was unaware butler game and the combine were the same week. Definitely keeping the steakhouses packed.

Way too many team binders lying all over the hotel lobby at my hotel.
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Re: 2023 NFL Draft
« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2023, 11:49:46 AM »
Hope the Packers surround Love with lots of weapons
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Re: 2023 NFL Draft
« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2023, 02:48:33 PM »
Lions fan says thank you LA Rams and Matthew Stafford.   

Detroit had better go defense with their two first round picks.

Reports are that Jalen Ramsey is available. Would the Lions have interest?

Depending on what they would need to give up, of course. But I think their second 1st round pick might be enough for the Rams as they want a first and to get out from under the contract.

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Re: 2023 NFL Draft/Offseason
« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2023, 04:51:40 PM »
Seeing as the 22-23 NFL Season is over, this makes the most sense.

Reports yesterday that the Bears are leaning towards shopping the #1 pick, as most anticipated.  I'll keep my enthusiasm limited, but if they could trade #1 to the Texans, move to #2, and then trade #2 to the Colts and move to #4 and STILL get Carter?  I don't even know how to process that kind of joy.

Sounds almost too good to be true. What other than Carter at #4 do you think the Bear’s get in those 2 deals?

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Re: 2023 NFL Draft
« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2023, 05:11:41 PM »
Reports are that Jalen Ramsey is available. Would the Lions have interest?

Depending on what they would need to give up, of course. But I think their second 1st round pick might be enough for the Rams as they want a first and to get out from under the contract.
I think they kick the tires.  I personally would not return #6.   But their second first round pick is acceptable.
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Re: 2023 NFL Draft/Offseason
« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2023, 05:25:43 PM »
Sounds almost too good to be true. What other than Carter at #4 do you think the Bear’s get in those 2 deals?

Houston has 2 third round picks along with their 2 first round picks this year and next. Can they get two first rounders?  I think so?  One of those would be the Browns pick probably.

Colts don’t have any extra picks this year, so I’d be curious how much the Colts would give up. 

Is it possible the bidding war at 2 is greater than 1?  I’m not sure Indy has the ammunition to get to 1

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« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2023, 06:23:56 PM »
Sounds almost too good to be true. What other than Carter at #4 do you think the Bear’s get in those 2 deals?

PFF said 2nd and 2024 4th to move up to #1 for the Texans.  Seems reasonable

I would think the move down from 2 to 4 will be more profitable.  Think they could pick up another first and a second or two from the Colts for that, not including #4.

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« Reply #9 on: February 28, 2023, 08:22:56 PM »
For the bears...

Is Texans 2>1 and then colts 4>2 realistic? Likely, they would both want QBs. But if the Texans go to 1, are the colts really worried about AZ at 3? Seems it would be better for them to stay at 4

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« Reply #10 on: February 28, 2023, 08:43:05 PM »
For the bears...

Is Texans 2>1 and then colts 4>2 realistic? Likely, they would both want QBs. But if the Texans go to 1, are the colts really worried about AZ at 3? Seems it would be better for them to stay at 4

Someone is trading up to 2 or 3.  Colts can wait or be proactive
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Re: 2023 NFL Draft/Offseason
« Reply #11 on: February 28, 2023, 08:43:27 PM »
For the bears...

Is Texans 2>1 and then colts 4>2 realistic? Likely, they would both want QBs. But if the Texans go to 1, are the colts really worried about AZ at 3? Seems it would be better for them to stay at 4

Knowing the Colts would take a QB, what would stop Carolina/Vegas/Seattle/Jets/Bucs/Falcons/Saints/etc from trading up to 2 or 3 to jump them to take a QB?

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Re: 2023 NFL Draft/Offseason
« Reply #12 on: February 28, 2023, 09:23:47 PM »
Dumb question.  Can fans attend?  Or is it just coaches/scouts, players and media?

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Re: 2023 NFL Draft/Offseason
« Reply #13 on: March 01, 2023, 08:18:35 AM »
Rodgers said he isn’t going to drag out his decision and he’ll make up his mind soon enough according to the podcast he was on.  Good news for the Packers
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Re: 2023 NFL Draft/Offseason
« Reply #14 on: March 01, 2023, 09:12:37 AM »
Jalen Carter's draft stock about to tank.

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Re: 2023 NFL Draft/Offseason
« Reply #15 on: March 01, 2023, 09:30:57 AM »
Jalen Carter's draft stock about to tank.

Unreal.  Did he drive away from the scene?  If he did, what a POS.

Him and Brandon Miller...yikes.
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« Reply #16 on: March 01, 2023, 09:54:01 AM »
Rodgers said he isn’t going to drag out his decision and he’ll make up his mind soon enough according to the podcast he was on.  Good news for the Packers

That's also what he said in the post game press conference after the Lions game.  It's about to be 2 months after that game now, so...
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« Reply #17 on: March 01, 2023, 11:04:10 AM »
Unreal.  Did he drive away from the scene?  If he did, what a POS.

Him and Brandon Miller...yikes.

I’m more willing to give Miller the benefit of the doubt as more evidence and information has come out and he has supposedly been forthright and cooperative with the police.

…but Carter is repeatedly lying to the police over the span of weeks AND may directly be responsible for the crash.  That’s just garbage human behavior.  I was all about him for the Bears, but I’m good with Anderson instead given this.

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« Reply #18 on: March 01, 2023, 11:14:13 AM »
Quote from: Lennys Tap link=topic=64379.msg1525004#msg152500 4 date=1677624700
Sounds almost too good to be true. What other than Carter at #4 do you think the Bear’s get in those 2 deals?

So, that feeling lasted less than 24 hours. When you have an owner like Rodgers, bad things happen.

P. S. I apologize ahead of time for being a d*ck.

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« Reply #19 on: March 01, 2023, 11:21:32 AM »
It's bad to say it, but Carter leaving the scene is probably a good move for him. Otherwise, he may be looking at a felony DUI in addition to reckless driving and racing.

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« Reply #20 on: March 01, 2023, 11:24:12 AM »
It's bad to say it, but Carter leaving the scene is probably a good move for him. Otherwise, he may be looking at a felony DUI in addition to reckless driving and racing.

He'd fit right in with the Bears and leaving the scene.

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« Reply #21 on: March 01, 2023, 12:06:50 PM »
So, that feeling lasted less than 24 hours. When you have an owner like Rodgers, bad things happen.

P. S. I apologize ahead of time for being a d*ck.

While i think the Rodgers owns the Bears gag is lame, I also love the world turning on him for being a tool, so I snickered.

I’m just thankful this happened pre-draft. It would be so Bears to have another first round bust…but not for actual football reasons

He'd fit right in with the Bears and leaving the scene.

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« Reply #22 on: March 01, 2023, 12:44:24 PM »
While i think the Rodgers owns the Bears gag is lame, I also love the world turning on him for being a tool, so I snickered.

I’m just thankful this happened pre-draft. It would be so Bears to have another first round bust…but not for actual football reasons

+1 Lambo on the freeway shoulder

I've never been anti-Rodgers, but, yes, he deserves what he is getting now.

And, yes, this is a huge break that it happened now. So it will come down to one trade, and then a decision on either Anderson or another trade. Probably. :-\

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« Reply #23 on: March 01, 2023, 01:47:29 PM »
If Carter really is in trouble here, it puts the Bears in a bit of a quandary. If they can't stomach gambling on him as a top 4 pick, that means they can't swap with the Colts and still guarantee themselves one of the top two defenders on the board (assuming Arizona takes Anderson). Maybe they love Tyree Wilson or Myles Murphy and it doesn't matter.

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« Reply #24 on: March 01, 2023, 02:19:08 PM »
If Carter really is in trouble here, it puts the Bears in a bit of a quandary. If they can't stomach gambling on him as a top 4 pick, that means they can't swap with the Colts and still guarantee themselves one of the top two defenders on the board (assuming Arizona takes Anderson). Maybe they love Tyree Wilson or Myles Murphy and it doesn't matter.

I look at it this way, if this Carter news confirms the rumblings that existed about character issues around him, this at least helps address that risk.

The value of the number 1 pick is who wants it and what price they’ll pay. Sure, you’d want a stud defensive lineman, but the Bears have so many needs. If they move to say 7, and pick up a bunch of assets and draft Skoronski in the process, I’m good with that. It’s obviously much better that this news came out now than closer to the draft.

 

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