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#UnleashSean

Quote from: Galway Eagle on January 31, 2023, 10:01:50 AM
Out of curiosity does this have any impact on title 9? Or were both these programs men & women?

Both men and women Programs cut.

Dr. Blackheart

48 scholarships per year, about half of Wojo's buyout per annum. 

ChitownSpaceForRent

Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on January 31, 2023, 10:13:51 AM
48 scholarships per year, about half of Wojo's buyout per annum.

Not a factor if the rumor about an alum footing the bill for Wojo is true.

cheebs09

I would guess it's getting more and more expensive to fund non-revenue sports and the ROI isn't there to justify the scholarships.

MU82

Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on January 31, 2023, 10:16:04 AM
Not a factor if the rumor about an alum footing the bill for Wojo is true.

Not directly a factor. But the same alum could have foot the bill to keep those as varsity sports.

Not saying he should have done so, just saying there's nuance.

For example, it's great that we have the collective for NIL, but some of the same people who donate to that will do so with money that otherwise might have gone to the overall athletic budget or to MU's general fund. That's not "bad." Or even good. It just is.
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Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on January 31, 2023, 10:13:51 AM
48 scholarships per year, about half of Wojo's buyout per annum.

Where will we park Wally now?

muwarrior69


Dr. Blackheart

Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on January 31, 2023, 10:16:04 AM
Not a factor if the rumor about an alum footing the bill for Wojo is true.

I didn't say it was. I just added that perspective. 

Mine: Wojo would still be our coach if Mr. X didn't step up.

4everwarriors

"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

Dr. Blackheart

Quote from: muwarrior69 on January 31, 2023, 10:37:46 AM
So 48 future students will now go elsewhere.

Marquette has alternative scholarship sources.

muwarrior69

Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on January 31, 2023, 10:46:20 AM
Marquette has alternative scholarship sources.

So you are saying a student who can get a scholarship playing tennis or track and field at another school will take an alternative scholarship to attend Marquette that does not take their sport seriously? I don't think so.

ZiggysFryBoy

Can't fund tennis, but people want to bring back football.

PointWarrior

Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on January 31, 2023, 12:07:56 PM
Can't fund tennis, but people want to bring back football.

Once the Warrior name is restored, the massive donation stream will return, funding football will be a no-brainer.

The Sultan

Quote from: #UnleashSean on January 31, 2023, 10:02:43 AM
Both men and women Programs cut.

No programs were cut. Fully funding scholarships is not a requirement of Title IX.
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TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

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The Sultan

Quote from: muwarrior69 on January 31, 2023, 10:37:46 AM
So 48 future students will now go elsewhere.


No they won't. Many of these students were only receiving partial scholarships, if they were receiving any at all.
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Galway Eagle

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on January 31, 2023, 12:33:37 PM
No programs were cut. Fully funding scholarships is not a requirement of Title IX.

Really? Is that not considered part of the investment that is supposed to equal out between men's and women's programs?
Retire Terry Rand's jersey!

cheebs09

Quote from: Galway Eagle on January 31, 2023, 01:53:54 PM
Really? Is that not considered part of the investment that is supposed to equal out between men's and women's programs?

This impacts both men's and women's programs I believe. Doesn't Marquette already have more women's scholarships due to volleyball?

warriorchick

I can't help but wonder if any of this is related to losing Joe True.  The timing is about right.
Have some patience, FFS.

muwarrior69

Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on January 31, 2023, 12:44:10 PM
And be replaced for 48 other future students.

Who will have to pay their own way, since the money is not there.

The Sultan

Quote from: Galway Eagle on January 31, 2023, 01:53:54 PM
Really? Is that not considered part of the investment that is supposed to equal out between men's and women's programs?

I phrased it wrong.  Scholarships count, but in this case there isn't a problem.
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Quote from: muwarrior69 on January 31, 2023, 04:16:09 PM
Who will have to pay their own way, since the money is not there.

As pointed out earlier, Marquette has other scholarships besides tennis and track and field partial scholarships. The only difference is that instead of this group of students getting part of their tuition paid for because they are good at tennis or track and field, they will have a different group of students getting part of their tuition paid for because of academics and service.

This move will negatively impact the quality of MU tennis and track and field programs. It will not negatively impact greater enrollment.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
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