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Author Topic: MU Admissions Update for 2023 and Beyond  (Read 3646 times)

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Re: MU Admissions Update for 2023 and Beyond
« Reply #50 on: March 23, 2023, 11:35:15 PM »
Great update Macallan thanks!   Did the Admissions dean say anything about the total # of applications they received?  It seems MU has gone out of their way to actually discourage more students from applying over the years and it's unfathomable to Porky as to why. 

For whatever reason it seems like MU doesn't want 3x 4x or 5x more students applying than they can reasonably accommodate.  Porky knows they adopted an extremely targeted data-centric approach a few years back and started only targeting students who meet their requirements, although that seems like it would be much more challenging in the test optional era.   

Porky understands they don't want to be bothered having to review applicants that aren't likely to be admitted, but what Porky doesn't understand is why they're unable to increase the number of QUALIFIED applicants to stoke demand so they can be even more selective. 

Fordham U in NYC has a slightly larger undergrad population than MU and is a slightly larger institution overall but they have 3x the number of applicants which doesn't make sense.  They don't have big time sports and their ranking isn't substantially enough higher than MU's to justify that difference but they have 47K applications to MU's 14K.   

Sure MKE isn't NYC and they're about 30% larger than MU in terms of total enrollment so you would expect them to have more applications than MU but not 300% more.  That's an insane difference given how comparable both institutions are.   

Porky agrees that acceptance rate doesn't correlate to quality but the optics of an 88% acceptance rate are effing terrible and in Porky's view the main cause of MU's extreme lack of geographic diversity. 

There's gotta be some folks on the BOT that think this is an issue no?  Just the other day a friend of Porky's son who is currently a high school JR and knows his old man went to MU started looking into MU as a potential option due mainly to MU's recent BET success.   

Porky Jr. told Porky Sr that this kid would likely apply to MU because it seems almost everyone gets in.   

Either the powers that be aren't aware that this is how MU is viewed or they just don't care.  Porky is fairly certain it's the latter.  What Porky isn't certain of is why?????????

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Re: MU Admissions Update for 2023 and Beyond
« Reply #51 on: March 24, 2023, 12:30:22 AM »
Ziggy would be on favor of bringing in more new England kids if their parents knew what a paragraph is.   ;)

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Re: MU Admissions Update for 2023 and Beyond
« Reply #52 on: March 24, 2023, 05:29:07 AM »
Great update Macallan thanks!   Did the Admissions dean say anything about the total # of applications they received?  It seems MU has gone out of their way to actually discourage more students from applying over the years and it's unfathomable to Porky as to why.  For whatever reason it seems like MU doesn't want 3x 4x or 5x more students applying than they can reasonably accommodate.  Porky knows they adopted an extremely targeted data-centric approach a few years back and started only targeting students who meet their requirements, although that seems like it would be much more challenging in the test optional era.   Porky understands they don't want to be bothered having to review applicants that aren't likely to be admitted, but what Porky doesn't understand is why they're unable to increase the number of QUALIFIED applicants to stoke demand so they can be even more selective.  Fordham U in NYC has a slightly larger undergrad population than MU and is a slightly larger institution overall but they have 3x the number of applicants which doesn't make sense.  They don't have big time sports and their ranking isn't substantially enough higher than MU's to justify that difference but they have 47K applications to MU's 14K.   Sure MKE isn't NYC and they're about 30% larger than MU in terms of total enrollment so you would expect them to have more applications than MU but not 300% more.  That's an insane difference given how comparable both institutions are.   Porky agrees that acceptance rate doesn't correlate to quality but the optics of an 88% acceptance rate are effing terrible and in Porky's view the main cause of MU's extreme lack of geographic diversity.  There's gotta be some folks on the BOT that think this is an issue no?  Just the other day a friend of Porky's son who is currently a high school JR and knows his old man went to MU started looking into MU as a potential option due mainly to MU's recent BET success.   Porky Jr. told Porky Sr that this kid would likely apply to MU because it seems almost everyone gets in.   Either the powers that be aren't aware that this is how MU is viewed or they just don't care.  Porky is fairly certain it's the latter.  What Porky isn't certain of is why?????????

...If that is true I have a hard time believing that 42% of applicants are male.

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Re: MU Admissions Update for 2023 and Beyond
« Reply #53 on: March 24, 2023, 02:25:41 PM »
Great update Macallan thanks! Did the Admissions dean say anything about the total # of applications they received? 

No, he did not get that specific about total applications.

Previously he stated that after Marquette went test optional in 2020, 18% of students chose to apply with that option. Not sure what it is up to now.

He has mentioned in the past that high numbers of admitted students does not necessarily mean higher numbers of students will come to the university.

They take a data driven approach to admissions as it is a more staff and cost efficient and ethical than reaching out to students and asking them to apply when Marquette knows they would not likely be admitted or be academically successful at Marquette.

Wisconsin and Illinois are the two states they heavily recruit form each year. Despite this the Admission Office notes that the university makes a conscious effort to reach broadly in the recruitment process. They develop and update a recruitment plan that creates meaningful engagement opportunities with any student interested in pursuing their undergraduate education at Marquette.

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Re: MU Admissions Update for 2023 and Beyond
« Reply #54 on: May 09, 2023, 09:51:03 AM »
The last University Academic Senate meeting of the year was yesterday. Updates regarding recruitment and retention:
  • The undergraduate goal was 1,926 students. Marquette has received 1,938 deposits as of yesterday morning.  Discount rate came down a "smidge" (no clarification on how much a smidge is). Student quality is high; diversity is high, 32.8% of incoming students are diverse.
  • Program expansions for College of Business and Nursing - up about 100 students and 200 students respectively.
  • In the update about the Student Success Initiative the presenters stated 17% of incoming  freshmen will transfer and graduate elsewhere, or not graduate at all from Marquette. 
  • The initiatives goal is to improve coordination of services and support to increase the six-year graduation rate to 90%, year 1-2 retention rate to 94% and first destination to 94%. First destination is how new graduates fare in their careers within six months of graduation.
  • The curent state of retention is 89.5% (#102 among US News nationally ranked institutions). Graduation is 82.5% (#70; #66 for graduation rate performance)​and First destination is 94% employed/enrolled/service.

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Re: MU Admissions Update for 2023 and Beyond
« Reply #55 on: May 09, 2023, 09:36:50 PM »
News release regarding class of 2027:
 
Strategic Planning
Marquette set to welcome 1,938 students to campus as Class of 2027
MAY 9, 2023

Marquette University has 1,938 incoming students committed to join the Class of 2027 as of National Decision Day, May 1.

Brian Troyer, dean of undergraduate admissions, attributes the success, in part, to his team’s mission-based, personalized approach to working with students and families.

“I am proud of the truly coordinated effort to demonstrate what makes Marquette such a special place and we saw, once again, that our best tool was the campus itself,” Troyer says. “It is such an important element for prospective students to personally experience our campus and interact with members of the Marquette community, including our faculty, staff, current students and alumni. We worked hard to meet these prospective students where they live, and we found that once we got admitted students to campus, they were committing to the university at a tremendous rate.”

Among their many outreach efforts, Troyer and his team held recruitment dinners and receptions in 27 cities, at which over 50% of attendees committed to Marquette. The team also saw a nearly 4% increase in admitted student visitors, and they hosted over 500 students over two Admitted Student Days. All told, Marquette yielded a nearly 63% commitment rate.

Diversity of student body improves

Based on the current numbers, over 33% of the incoming class identifies as a student of color, the second-straight year that figure has seen a greater than 10% increase. True to the university’s Catholic, Jesuit mission and heritage, first-generation students make up over 23% of the incoming class, and 171 students hail from Jesuit high schools.

New class demonstrates academic excellence

Importantly, Marquette increased its class size and furthered its commitment to academic excellence. The incoming class boasts an average GPA of 3.56 and standardized test scores for those who submitted them improved. The class’s average SAT score is 1269 and their average ACT score is 27.7.

Additionally, an impressive 14.5% of the Class of 2027 has been accepted and committed to the Honors Program.

Increased enrollment from Illinois

Geographically, more students in the class hail from Wisconsin’s neighbor to the south, with nearly 42% coming from Illinois. Over a third of the class is from Wisconsin.

All told, students are headed to Marquette from 43 domestic states, three U.S. territories and 13 countries.
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Re: MU Admissions Update for 2023 and Beyond
« Reply #56 on: May 09, 2023, 09:58:35 PM »
News release regarding class of 2027:
 
Strategic Planning
Marquette set to welcome 1,938 students to campus as Class of 2027
MAY 9, 2023

Marquette University has 1,938 incoming students committed to join the Class of 2027 as of National Decision Day, May 1.

Brian Troyer, dean of undergraduate admissions, attributes the success, in part, to his team’s mission-based, personalized approach to working with students and families.

“I am proud of the truly coordinated effort to demonstrate what makes Marquette such a special place and we saw, once again, that our best tool was the campus itself,” Troyer says. “It is such an important element for prospective students to personally experience our campus and interact with members of the Marquette community, including our faculty, staff, current students and alumni. We worked hard to meet these prospective students where they live, and we found that once we got admitted students to campus, they were committing to the university at a tremendous rate.”

Among their many outreach efforts, Troyer and his team held recruitment dinners and receptions in 27 cities, at which over 50% of attendees committed to Marquette. The team also saw a nearly 4% increase in admitted student visitors, and they hosted over 500 students over two Admitted Student Days. All told, Marquette yielded a nearly 63% commitment rate.

Diversity of student body improves

Based on the current numbers, over 33% of the incoming class identifies as a student of color, the second-straight year that figure has seen a greater than 10% increase. True to the university’s Catholic, Jesuit mission and heritage, first-generation students make up over 23% of the incoming class, and 171 students hail from Jesuit high schools.

New class demonstrates academic excellence

Importantly, Marquette increased its class size and furthered its commitment to academic excellence. The incoming class boasts an average GPA of 3.56 and standardized test scores for those who submitted them improved. The class’s average SAT score is 1269 and their average ACT score is 27.7.

Additionally, an impressive 14.5% of the Class of 2027 has been accepted and committed to the Honors Program.

Increased enrollment from Illinois

Geographically, more students in the class hail from Wisconsin’s neighbor to the south, with nearly 42% coming from Illinois. Over a third of the class is from Wisconsin.

All told, students are headed to Marquette from 43 domestic states, three U.S. territories and 13 countries.

But what about students from the northeast?!?!?!

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Re: MU Admissions Update for 2023 and Beyond
« Reply #57 on: May 10, 2023, 08:12:53 AM »
This really validates how Marquette has focused the last few years. Concentrating on certain majors and really diving into certain geographies.  The discount rate is going to increase - it pretty much has to at all but the elite schools with the demographics in question.

I'm sure a re-emerging basketball program helps.
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« Reply #58 on: May 10, 2023, 08:37:01 AM »
If I'm reading correctly, 75% are from Wisconsin and Illinois.  Is that normal?  It seems high.
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« Reply #59 on: May 10, 2023, 08:50:57 AM »
It's higher than it has been, but I think that's intentional. These numbers show they are REALLY concentrating on Chicagoland, which is smart because it is relatively better off financially, full of college bound students, and still relatively Catholic.
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« Reply #60 on: May 10, 2023, 10:04:59 AM »
I do know that it is not a lay up for kids to get into MU anyore from places like Loyola Academy.  I guess that's good news.
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« Reply #61 on: May 10, 2023, 10:07:18 AM »
News release regarding class of 2027:
 
Strategic Planning
Marquette set to welcome 1,938 students to campus as Class of 2027
MAY 9, 2023

Marquette University has 1,938 incoming students committed to join the Class of 2027 as of National Decision Day, May 1.

Brian Troyer, dean of undergraduate admissions, attributes the success, in part, to his team’s mission-based, personalized approach to working with students and families.

“I am proud of the truly coordinated effort to demonstrate what makes Marquette such a special place and we saw, once again, that our best tool was the campus itself,” Troyer says. “It is such an important element for prospective students to personally experience our campus and interact with members of the Marquette community, including our faculty, staff, current students and alumni. We worked hard to meet these prospective students where they live, and we found that once we got admitted students to campus, they were committing to the university at a tremendous rate.”

Among their many outreach efforts, Troyer and his team held recruitment dinners and receptions in 27 cities, at which over 50% of attendees committed to Marquette. The team also saw a nearly 4% increase in admitted student visitors, and they hosted over 500 students over two Admitted Student Days. All told, Marquette yielded a nearly 63% commitment rate.

Diversity of student body improves

Based on the current numbers, over 33% of the incoming class identifies as a student of color, the second-straight year that figure has seen a greater than 10% increase. True to the university’s Catholic, Jesuit mission and heritage, first-generation students make up over 23% of the incoming class, and 171 students hail from Jesuit high schools.

New class demonstrates academic excellence

Importantly, Marquette increased its class size and furthered its commitment to academic excellence. The incoming class boasts an average GPA of 3.56 and standardized test scores for those who submitted them improved. The class’s average SAT score is 1269 and their average ACT score is 27.7.

Additionally, an impressive 14.5% of the Class of 2027 has been accepted and committed to the Honors Program.

Increased enrollment from Illinois

Geographically, more students in the class hail from Wisconsin’s neighbor to the south, with nearly 42% coming from Illinois. Over a third of the class is from Wisconsin.

All told, students are headed to Marquette from 43 domestic states, three U.S. territories and 13 countries.
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Re: MU Admissions Update for 2023 and Beyond
« Reply #62 on: May 10, 2023, 10:14:13 AM »
I wonder .. what's the gender breakdown for the incoming class?  Still a 42% downward trend for men?

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« Reply #63 on: May 10, 2023, 10:18:44 AM »
I wonder .. what's the gender breakdown for the incoming class?  Still a 42% downward trend for men?

Ya know what brings in a large crop of males to balance the gender breakdown.....

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« Reply #64 on: May 10, 2023, 10:22:06 AM »
It's higher than it has been, but I think that's intentional. These numbers show they are REALLY concentrating on Chicagoland, which is smart because it is relatively better off financially, full of college bound students, and still relatively Catholic.

Also, the Chicago metro area has had stable to slightly growing population trends.
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