KenPom Now Has MU As The #1 Offense In The Nation

[cheebs09]

I’m not sure how much of a downgrade Ross is on offense either. He’s not as good of a shooter, but I think he makes less mistakes and has shown the ability to hit shots and turn a steal into 2 points.

[jesmu84]

I’m not sure how much of a downgrade Ross is on offense either. He’s not as good of a shooter, but I think he makes less mistakes and has shown the ability to hit shots and turn a steal into 2 points.

I think he's quicker and much better at keeping the ball moving as well

[Uncle Rico]

Marquette up to number 8 in KenPom after the win.  Defense gets a bump to 72

[Goose]

I think our defense will see more jumps over the next few weeks. Was a good defensive effort today.

[Jay Bee]

I’m not sure how much of a downgrade Ross is on offense either. He’s not as good of a shooter, but I think he makes less mistakes and has shown the ability to hit shots and turn a steal into 2 points.

Completely diff profile. %shots

[Uncle Rico]

I think our defense will see more jumps over the next few weeks. Was a good defensive effort today.

I agree with this

[Uncle Rico]

I’m not sure how much of a downgrade Ross is on offense either. He’s not as good of a shooter, but I think he makes less mistakes and has shown the ability to hit shots and turn a steal into 2 points.

Offensive rating in two games this week was 127 & 146.  No turnovers.  Has played better in conference than out of.  Kid will be an all-league player before it’s all said and done

[Elonsmusk]

I’m not sure how much of a downgrade Ross is on offense either. He’s not as good of a shooter, but I think he makes less mistakes and has shown the ability to hit shots and turn a steal into 2 points.

Chase should be getting the 5th most minutes on the team at this point.  His steal % is 22nd in the country at 4.8.  Minimizing offensive possessions for the opposition exposes us to fewer possessions to have to secure a defensive rebound.  Our defense is really good rotationally, schematically - but when you can't clear the board and the opponent gets easy put backs it kills all the great work done preceding the shot attempt.

[GB Warrior]

Chase should be getting the 5th most minutes on the team at this point.  His steal % is 22nd in the country at 4.8.  Minimizing offensive possessions for the opposition exposes us to fewer possessions to have to secure a defensive rebound.  Our defense is really good rotationally, schematically - but when you can't clear the board and the opponent gets easy put backs it kills all the great work done preceding the shot attempt.

You saw the beginning of that today. He was 4th because of Omax foul trouble.

[MuggsyB]

I’m not sure how much of a downgrade Ross is on offense either. He’s not as good of a shooter, but I think he makes less mistakes and has shown the ability to hit shots and turn a steal into 2 points.

Cheebs,

I fully expect Ross to take an ENORMOUS jump (no pun intended) very, very, soon.  Once he gets extended mins as a Soph?  Look out.  The kid has a complete game imo. 

[MU82]

Chase should get the exact number of minutes Shaka believes he earns. Same with Gold and Sean.

[PointWarrior]

Ross needs to play more

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Nm

[brewcity77]

Cheebs,

I fully expect Ross to take an ENORMOUS jump (no pun intended) very, very, soon.  Once he gets extended mins as a Soph?  Look out.  The kid has a complete game imo.

Highest NBA ceiling on this team. Still has to put it together, but I love his upside.

[MU82]

Ross needs to play more

I'm gonna go with the crazy-hot take that the coach who sees them every day and who so far has done an incredible job developing them knows more than I do about them. But you're obviously free to believe you know more than Shaka does.

[Ellenson Guerrero]

Highest NBA ceiling on this team. Still has to put it together, but I love his upside.

I still think O-Max is really the only one on this squad that could have a multi-year NBA career. Ross’s athleticism is next level, but I don’t think he’s tall enough to play the 2 in today’s NBA. But maybe he develops elite shot making ti go along with his athleticism.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Chase should get the exact number of minutes Shaka believes he earns. Same with Gold and Sean.

I'm gonna go with the crazy-hot take that the coach who sees them every day and who so far has done an incredible job developing them knows more than I do about them. But you're obviously free to believe you know more than Shaka does.

Maybe just let the discussion board be a discussion board???

[Goose]

Omax is going to make money playing at the next level. Athletic, very good defender, good ball handler (in open court), can use both hands very well, nice stroke and a good guy. I hope that he is advised another year at MU is his best path to long NBA career, but afraid that might not happen.

For the naysayers, it has been mentioned more than once the number of NBA scouts at the games the past couple of weeks and Omax's name has been mentioned every time. I hardly doubt if the scouts are solely there to see him a standout game, but rather, how does his skills translate to the next level. I find it funny when someone feels a subpar game, like yesterday, would change his chances of playing in the NBA. I said it before, but when I saw him grab a D rebound against UCLA last year and go to coast to coast, he looked different to me, a good different.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

I think scouts want to see when a player has a bad game, what is his body language like.  How does he lift up his teammates, etc.

[MU82]

In O-Max it's easy to understand why fans see a guy who lacks consistency and who sometimes gets out of control with the basketball. But scouts look at him and say, "Outstanding athlete, NBA body, hard worker, can defend multiple positions, shooting form we can work with."

[Goose]

Fluff

Did you have mention body language? If so, I think Omax would pass that test, even for the non-believers.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Fluff

Did you have mention body language? If so, I think Omax would pass that test, even for the non-believers.

Oh no doubt. My larger point is that they aren't just looking at how they played in a particular game. But they look at how they carry themselves.

[Goose]

Fluff

We agree and that was my point. I have seen posters dismissing Omax as an NBA player when he is having a down game, and I have felt they are missing the big picture. His playing at the next level has been dismissed a lot on scoop this season, only to be followed a rebuttal after a good performance.

[Uncle Rico]

Fluff

We agree and that was my point. I have seen posters dismissing Omax as an NBA player when he is having a down game, and I have felt they are missing the big picture. His playing at the next level has been dismissed a lot on scoop this season, only to be followed a rebuttal after a good performance.

They don’t know ball

[lawdog77]

Oh no doubt. My larger point is that they aren't just looking at how they played in a particular game. But they look at how they carry themselves.

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