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Jockey

Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on April 05, 2023, 02:21:01 PM
Alcantara and Luzardo get 100 pitches each.

Lopez for Twins gets pulled after 86 pitches when he just struck out the side and had allowed 1 hit in his last 6 innings of work.

Classic Baldelli failure. Marlins immediately score 4. He cant feel out a game.

Every pitcher is different and very few are allowed 100 pitches in thei first couple starts.

If Rocco did this in May or June, I would agree 100% with your post.

PGsHeroes32

Quote from: Jockey on April 05, 2023, 04:08:29 PM
Every pitcher is different and very few are allowed 100 pitches in thei first couple starts.

If Rocco did this in May or June, I would agree 100% with your post.

But with Lopez hes got a bit of a new arsenal, hes throwing harder and his sweeper has been elite.

Hes got to start the inning. Give him a base runner, maybe it all turns out the same because Rocco also had tunnel vision on Thielbar getting Arraez(he did) but new rules state hes also got to face the next two guys(fail).

86 extremely low stress pitches you have to give him a shot. Luzardo is younger,  never hit 110 innings and had high stress innings.

Just gotta give your pitchers a chance at some point. Thats why we went out and got a good rotation for once.
Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

PGsHeroes32

Quote from: Jockey on April 05, 2023, 04:08:29 PM
Every pitcher is different and very few are allowed 100 pitches in thei first couple starts.

If Rocco did this in May or June, I would agree 100% with your post.

And its also more just the constant fundamental problem with Rocco. I just want to see him do SOMETHING that is stictly based off how the current game is going. Everything he does is robotic pre determined of what hes told should be the outcome of a decision.

Like Trevor Larnach is objectively hitting the ball, seeing the ball etc.. better than Jose Miranda or really any other Twin. He batted 8th yesterday because left on left. Miranda looks brutal and keeps hitting clean up.

At some point you have to notice a guy who had a good spring and so far through 6 games is having great AB after AB and say "ya know what left on left cannot be the be all end all".
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Jockey

Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on April 06, 2023, 08:09:37 AM
But with Lopez hes got a bit of a new arsenal, hes throwing harder and his sweeper has been elite.

Hes got to start the inning. Give him a base runner, maybe it all turns out the same because Rocco also had tunnel vision on Thielbar getting Arraez(he did) but new rules state hes also got to face the next two guys(fail).

86 extremely low stress pitches you have to give him a shot. Luzardo is younger,  never hit 110 innings and had high stress innings.

Just gotta give your pitchers a chance at some point. Thats why we went out and got a good rotation for once.

Even though I challenge you on some of this stuff, I agree with your overall point. The guy is a bad manager. Close to Tony LaRussa with the Sox bad.

withoutbias

#179
The Twinkies are off to a good start.  Maybe just try to enjoy an inning or two of the 162 game season, rather than questioning why something different wasn't done every pitch of every game.

I don't think 6 games into the season is time to start scratching your lineup.  Especially when you're 4-2.

PGsHeroes32

Quote from: Jockey on April 06, 2023, 08:47:44 AM
Even though I challenge you on some of this stuff, I agree with your overall point. The guy is a bad manager. Close to Tony LaRussa with the Sox bad.

Yeah 100% get it that some of the game to game scenarios can be argued , just as a diehard fan I get to see it all in a vacuum and its frustrating.

I am hoping to your point though that come May and June stuff like this at least will stop. Im hopeful that a pretty veteran staff will not allow it(Gray already very vocal).
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Dish

In their last 42 innings, the White Sox have given up 43 runs.

JWags85

Quote from: DegenerateDish on April 07, 2023, 05:01:08 PM
In their last 42 innings, the White Sox have given up 43 runs.

Classic Chicago bend dont break defense

MU82

Quote from: DegenerateDish on April 07, 2023, 05:01:08 PM
In their last 42 innings, the White Sox have given up 43 runs.

La Russa: "I guess that's my fault, too, mothereffers."
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Uncle Rico

Appears the Cardinals are lost at sea without Yadi. 

The good news for them is, baseball is a season with many peaks and valleys and they have a lot of talented players on the roster.  Most of which won't skip games to see a minor league basketball championship.
Guster is for Lovers

PGsHeroes32

Not sure whats more drastic

How good the Twins starters are or how rancid Carlos Correa is
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MU82

Ohtani ended today's game by grounding out weakly with the bases loaded.

He's human. Who knew?

(He also homered in the game. He's good.)
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

PGsHeroes32

Win or lose. Thats what you have to do against Dylan Cease.

Bad White Sox D really helped. But Twins with their D lineup had a great approach today. As good as Cease is he led the league in walks for a reason last year. Make him work, and swing at good pitches.

Unfortunately Maeda kept spinning 80 mph sliders over the heart and Sox had 1 big inning. But Twins now have a chance to win a game against the Sox pen due to just taking good ABs.
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PGsHeroes32

Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on April 10, 2023, 02:45:53 PM
Win or lose. Thats what you have to do against Dylan Cease.

Bad White Sox D really helped. But Twins with their D lineup had a great approach today. As good as Cease is he led the league in walks for a reason last year. Make him work, and swing at good pitches.

Unfortunately Maeda kept spinning 80 mph sliders over the heart and Sox had 1 big inning. But Twins now have a chance to win a game against the Sox pen due to just taking good ABs.

NVM cant score.

Rocco strikes again.

Wallner leading off the 8th against Bummer. He uses Buxton to pinch hit. Knowing full well that if anyone gets on base Taylor(worst hitter in MLB) is due up 4th and will be required to bat.

Well, Castro gets beaned and gets to third with 2 outs. So Sox bring in Lopez to face Taylor. As expected, K.

You just cant have a total incompetent idiot running a baseball team.
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PGsHeroes32

Lopez has been fu cking incredible.

The added velo and devloping that sweeper has really helped.

Just gotta figure out the first inning woes(was a problem last year) which are his only 3 runs so far.
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Lennys Tap

Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on April 10, 2023, 03:37:11 PM
NVM cant score.

Rocco strikes again.

Wallner leading off the 8th against Bummer. He uses Buxton to pinch hit. Knowing full well that if anyone gets on base Taylor(worst hitter in MLB) is due up 4th and will be required to bat.

Well, Castro gets beaned and gets to third with 2 outs. So Sox bring in Lopez to face Taylor. As expected, K.

You just cant have a total incompetent idiot running a baseball team.

Would the Twinkies ever lose a game if Baldelli wasn't their manager?

PGsHeroes32

Quote from: Lennys Tap on April 11, 2023, 09:40:13 PM
Would the Twinkies ever lose a game if Baldelli wasn't their manager?

Yes, but they would win the worst division in baseball running away.
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Vander Blue Man Group

Cubs down 7-0 to Seattle in the 2nd inning, come back to take the lead in the 3rd and end up winning 14-9.  Certainly a flawed team that will need a lot to go right to stay competitive but there's talent and depth there.  Definitely a different feel about this team so far.  Really tough schedule coming up the last few weeks of April, though, so we'll see how they come of that. 

PGsHeroes32

Quote from: Lennys Tap on April 11, 2023, 09:40:13 PM
Would the Twinkies ever lose a game if Baldelli wasn't their manager?

Since you asked I'll alert you to the next Baldelli decision.

Nick Gordon batting clean up today.....he has like 4 hits all year and a OPS of .320 and hes utility bench player if we are healthy

Trevor Larnach and his .420 OBP and 11 game(all 11 games) on base streak batting 6th.

Hes bat sh it nuts.
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cheebs09

So, Corbin Burnes seemed to have bounced back a bit.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: cheebs09 on April 12, 2023, 12:49:14 PM
So, Corbin Burnes seemed to have bounced back a bit.

He needs to be an ace for the next month
Guster is for Lovers

CreightonWarrior

Fun stat of the day, since the Rockies traded away Arenado and signed Kris Bryant, Arenado has hit 3 more HRs than Bryant at Coors Field. Coincidentally, Arenado has only hit 3 home runs at Coors field since being traded from the rockies.

PGsHeroes32

Twins craft a real batting order with guys hitting in their right places

All time inning at our house of horrors.

Julien will be here to stay.
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MU82

As we all predicted before the season, Rays are 13-0.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

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