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The Sultan

I'm sure they dangled an early contract to Burnes like they did Peralta, but he said "no thanks."  From then on the writing was on the wall that they were going to use their control as long as they could and consider trade options along the way knowing they weren't going to sign him to a long-term deal.  And they still control him through arbitration next year.

This is how the Brewers have done business since Anastasio bought the team.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Hards Alumni

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on June 06, 2023, 09:25:49 AM
I'm sure they dangled an early contract to Burnes like they did Peralta, but he said "no thanks."  From then on the writing was on the wall that they were going to use their control as long as they could and consider trade options along the way knowing they weren't going to sign him to a long-term deal.  And they still control him through arbitration next year.

This is how the Brewers have done business since Anastasio bought the team.

It's pretty popular with fans, players and fills the trophy case!

Keep up the good work, Mark!

wadesworld

Quote from: Hards Alumni on June 06, 2023, 10:43:02 AM
It's pretty popular with fans, players and fills the trophy case!

Keep up the good work, Mark!

Far better than it was before Mark owned the team.  Mark has owned the Brewers for half of my life (17 years before, 17 years since).  In the 17 years before he owned it the Brewers hadn't made the Playoffs at all.  In the 17 years since he's owned the Brewers they've made the Playoffs 5 times.  NCLS twice.  3 division titles.

Obviously it still isn't some awesome organization.  But that's the reality in the MLB where there's no salary cap.  I'm not sure how much more you can expect from a Milwaukee baseball team.

Hards Alumni

Quote from: wadesworld on June 06, 2023, 10:53:22 AM
Far better than it was before Mark owned the team.  Mark has owned the Brewers for half of my life (17 years before, 17 years since).  In the 17 years before he owned it the Brewers hadn't made the Playoffs at all.  In the 17 years since he's owned the Brewers they've made the Playoffs 5 times.  NCLS twice.  3 division titles.

Obviously it still isn't some awesome organization.  But that's the reality in the MLB where there's no salary cap.  I'm not sure how much more you can expect from a Milwaukee baseball team.

Pre-Mark was the lowest possible bar to clear.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on June 06, 2023, 09:25:49 AM
I'm sure they dangled an early contract to Burnes like they did Peralta, but he said "no thanks."  From then on the writing was on the wall that they were going to use their control as long as they could and consider trade options along the way knowing they weren't going to sign him to a long-term deal.  And they still control him through arbitration next year.

This is how the Brewers have done business since Anastasio bought the team.

I wish the best to any team that gives Burnes a long-term, guaranteed contract
Guster is for Lovers

4everwarriors

Peddle hiz ass at da trade deadline and get a haul like dey did fore Hater, aina?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

Uncle Rico

Quote from: 4everwarriors on June 06, 2023, 12:12:15 PM
Peddle hiz ass at da trade deadline and get a haul like dey did fore Hater, aina?

Beats paying him
Guster is for Lovers

The Sultan

Quote from: wadesworld on June 06, 2023, 10:53:22 AM
Far better than it was before Mark owned the team.  Mark has owned the Brewers for half of my life (17 years before, 17 years since).  In the 17 years before he owned it the Brewers hadn't made the Playoffs at all.  In the 17 years since he's owned the Brewers they've made the Playoffs 5 times.  NCLS twice.  3 division titles.

Obviously it still isn't some awesome organization.  But that's the reality in the MLB where there's no salary cap.  I'm not sure how much more you can expect from a Milwaukee baseball team.

Not only no salary cap, but limited local revenue.  Milwaukee has actually done a solid job here because its revenue apparently exceeds some much larger markets like Miami.  But the reality is that low revenue teams have to be extremely well run on the baseball side of things to be constantly competitive.

I think the Brewers have been run pretty well.  Not great by any means. So this is what you are getting.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

PGsHeroes32

Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

Lennys Tap

Sad but not surprising.

PGsHeroes32

Falvey and Levine simply do not stop being the worst front office in sports.

So over a week ago Matt Wallner had reached base EIGHT straight times. They sent him down to get Max Kepler in. Was there a rush to activate Kepler?? Uhh no. Not with logic. Kepler since his activation is 3/26 with 0 walks. LOL.

Wallner proceeds to win minor league player of the week with 3 bombs and like a .500 batting average.

Thursday Buxton gets beaned and Correa hurts his leg(again). Do we make a move?? Nah. We play 3 more games vs a division rival with a short bench. Buxton only just now put on the IL today. Hilarious.

Best part is, we did have to make 1 IL move for the weekend. Call up Wallner?? Nope, minor league journeyman Kyle Garlick all because we faced ONE lefty on saturday. Garlick is .200 in AAA with a .172 vs Lefties.

Twins scored 3 runs total over the weekemd winning 1-0 and losing 3-2 and 2-0. This FO is literally throwing games
Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

tower912

#386
Thankfully, the entire Central sucks.   Detroit has 13 players on the IL.   Seemingly helpless without Greene.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

PGsHeroes32

Quote from: tower912 on June 06, 2023, 05:23:14 PM
Thankfully, the entire Central sucks.   Detroit has 13 players on the IL.   Seemingly helpless without Greene.

Thats why they run the org the way they do. Such a bad division they dont do rational instead.

Detroit stinks was matter of time til they fell off.

Sox will charge though if Twins stay incompetent.
Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

Dr. Blackheart

Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on May 12, 2023, 12:05:00 PM
Two weeks ago they announced a done deal location. Two days ago, they announced a different done deal location. In Oakland, they announced at least three done deal locations, maybe four if you include Santa Clara. Meanwhile, their current lease runs out at the end of next season. Maybe the grown ups at Bally's can bring this one home for Kaval this time. Clown Show
You
And another fail in the works...

https://apnews.com/article/nevada-athletics-las-vegas-film-tax-credit-cc18c2cb974f572915dfa311b4d72804

PGsHeroes32

Twins offense being shut out again.

Cant even blame the players at this point.

No chance in hell Donovan Solano's own family would have thought hed bat clean up and DH. But thats the lineup our GMs and manager are willingly fielding.
Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

tower912

Detroit is 5-52 though 16 innings over two games in Philly.   Not as sympathetic to the plight of the Twins as you might hope.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

PGsHeroes32

Quote from: tower912 on June 06, 2023, 07:27:32 PM
Detroit is 5-52 though 16 innings over two games in Philly.   Not as sympathetic to the plight of the Twins as you might hope.

The Tigers roster is terrible. If they finish within 10 games of .500 thats a miracle.

The Twins have easily the best roster in the division and a run differential(even with tonight) like 50 runs higher than the whole division.

Lose low scoring close games......because well coaching/roster competence matters.
Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

PGsHeroes32

https://twitter.com/DanHayesMLB/status/1666241009888501762

Hitting coach doing his job as well. Great to not change up some approaches.
Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

PGsHeroes32

Carlos Correa has 11 Ks in his last 19 ABs

Arraez has 11 Ks all year


Just keep batting Correa 3rd. Worst RISP on the team. 2 more Ks in 3 ABs today. Both against some guy named Cooper Crispwell. ONe of them with 2 on and he went down looking at pitch right down the middle.
Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

dgies9156

Would someone please explain to me what's happened to my beloved St. Louis Cardinals?

Before you scream pitching, I'd argue their rotation isn't all that bad and their ERAs should be reasonable enough given the power they have (conceptually) at every position.

Maybe it's Yadi, but I think it's deeper than that. I think Marmol barely has a clue and Molizak (sp?) has put together a team that can't play together. And, possibly, they've overestimated the quality of their young outfielders.

Thoughts, baseball experts?

Shaka Shart

Quote from: dgies9156 on June 08, 2023, 03:19:53 PM
Would someone please explain to me what's happened to my beloved St. Louis Cardinals?

Before you scream pitching, I'd argue their rotation isn't all that bad and their ERAs should be reasonable enough given the power they have (conceptually) at every position.

Maybe it's Yadi, but I think it's deeper than that. I think Marmol barely has a clue and Molizak (sp?) has put together a team that can't play together. And, possibly, they've overestimated the quality of their young outfielders.

Thoughts, baseball experts?

Fans have turned away from the lord and are being punished
" There are two things I can consistently smell.    Poop and Chlorine.  All poop smells like acrid baby poop mixed with diaper creme. And almost anything that smells remotely like poop; porta-johns, water filtration plants, fertilizer, etc., smells exactly the same." - Tower912

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The Sultan

Quote from: ZaLiN on June 08, 2023, 03:57:12 PM
Fans have turned away from the lord and are being punished

No...they've turned to the Lord and are being rewarded.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Uncle Rico

Quote from: dgies9156 on June 08, 2023, 03:19:53 PM
Would someone please explain to me what's happened to my beloved St. Louis Cardinals?

Before you scream pitching, I'd argue their rotation isn't all that bad and their ERAs should be reasonable enough given the power they have (conceptually) at every position.

Maybe it's Yadi, but I think it's deeper than that. I think Marmol barely has a clue and Molizak (sp?) has put together a team that can't play together. And, possibly, they've overestimated the quality of their young outfielders.

Thoughts, baseball experts?

Stuff happens
Guster is for Lovers

ZiggysFryBoy

Quote from: dgies9156 on June 08, 2023, 03:19:53 PM
Would someone please explain to me what's happened to my beloved St. Louis Cardinals?

Before you scream pitching, I'd argue their rotation isn't all that bad and their ERAs should be reasonable enough given the power they have (conceptually) at every position.

Maybe it's Yadi, but I think it's deeper than that. I think Marmol barely has a clue and Molizak (sp?) has put together a team that can't play together. And, possibly, they've overestimated the quality of their young outfielders.

Thoughts, baseball experts?

Yadi

lawdog77

Quote from: dgies9156 on June 08, 2023, 03:19:53 PM
Would someone please explain to me what's happened to my beloved St. Louis Cardinals?

Before you scream pitching, I'd argue their rotation isn't all that bad and their ERAs should be reasonable enough given the power they have (conceptually) at every position.

Maybe it's Yadi, but I think it's deeper than that. I think Marmol barely has a clue and Molizak (sp?) has put together a team that can't play together. And, possibly, they've overestimated the quality of their young outfielders.

Thoughts, baseball experts?
Stricter drug testing?

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