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dgies

I have a real soft spot for the early Al teams you noted. They were the foundation for the program moving forward.

BLWarrior91

Imagine if that 94 team had a guard like Wade.  That's how you win a national championship. 

BLWarrior91

Quote from: muwarrior69 on January 16, 2023, 09:54:54 AM
I think Al's  '71 team was his best.

71 and 76 were his best.  71 was undefeated going into the tournament.  76 had one loss going into the tournament.

77 had to play through the shock of Al announcing his retirement but they weee obviously great...especially when it mattered most.

MU82

Quote from: BLWarrior91 on January 16, 2023, 03:58:22 PM
Imagine if that 94 team had a guard like Wade.  That's how you win a national championship.

Imagine if this year's team had a guard like Wade.
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AlTruda94

I will go kicking and screaming to my grave the '96 team could've taken down UMass in the regional semis had it gotten past Arkansas in the second round.




Quote from: The Lens on January 16, 2023, 08:27:16 AM
Speaking of Mac...

'94 over 03?  College basketball was so deep in 94 that it was a different game then.  H2H it would be a fun one.

We left something on the table in 96.  That team, could play.


Galway Eagle

Quote from: AlTruda94 on January 16, 2023, 06:58:01 PM
I will go kicking and screaming to my grave the '96 team could've taken down UMass in the regional semis had it gotten past Arkansas in the second round.

Didn't they lose to Providence?
Retire Terry Rand's jersey!

Uncle Rico

Quote from: Galway Eagle on January 16, 2023, 07:26:29 PM
Didn't they lose to Providence?

'97 team did

That's the squad that had to win the CUSA Tourney to get a spot and then got poleaxed by the dence
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Quote from: AlTruda94 on January 16, 2023, 06:58:01 PM
I will go kicking and screaming to my grave the '96 team could've taken down UMass in the regional semis had it gotten past Arkansas in the second round.

I knew they were in trouble when I saw Arkansas beat Penn State. PSU was not a great team - I believe Big Ten champs in a bad year for the conference.
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Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on January 16, 2023, 07:35:28 PM
I knew they were in trouble when I saw Arkansas beat Penn State. PSU was not a great team - I believe Big Ten champs in a bad year for the conference.

That was a pretty young but talented Hogs team.  They lost pretty much everything from the Final 4 Teams the previous two years.  Still thought Marquette should have won that game
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BLWarrior

I agree on '71 being the best followed by '76. IMO, '77 was third best.


Lennys Tap

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Quote from: MU82 on January 16, 2023, 06:34:08 PM
Imagine if this year's team had a guard like Wade.

Imagine if the 1969, 70, 71, 72, 73,74, 75, 76, and 78 teams had Wade. Instead of the one title in 77, we win 10 in a row!

Lennys Tap

Quote from: Goose on January 16, 2023, 07:47:22 PM
BLWarrior

I agree on '71 being the best followed by '76. IMO, '77 was third best.

I concur.

MU82

Quote from: Lennys Tap on January 16, 2023, 08:25:26 PM
Imagine if the 1969, 70, 71, 72, 73,74, 75, 76, and 78 teams had Wade. Instead of the one title in 77, we win 10 in a row!

Exactly.
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Galway Eagle

Why stop there? Imagine if every team had a Wade. Hell imagine two wades on 2002 and 2003!
Retire Terry Rand's jersey!

BLWarrior91

Quote from: Galway Eagle on January 16, 2023, 09:07:35 PM
Why stop there? Imagine if every team had a Wade. Hell imagine two wades on 2002 and 2003!

One wade wasn't enough is 2002, so two couldn't been the difference.

brewcity77

Quote from: withoutbias on January 16, 2023, 02:18:51 PM
Algorithms is what you don't know. Thankfully for my entertainment purposes games are played on a basketball court, not an excel spreadsheet. I get the feeling you'd like watching a spreadsheet more.

So you think Vander Blue and Junior Cadougan had a better team than Jae Crowder and DJO did?

BLWarrior91

My favorite story about that 94 team was that Roney Eford had successfully checked himself back into games several times during the season.  He definitely brought a swagger to that team. 

Scoop Snoop

Quote from: Galway Eagle on January 16, 2023, 09:07:35 PM
Why stop there? Imagine if every team had a Wade. Hell imagine two wades on 2002 and 2003!

Imagine if every team had a Wojo clone for their coach.
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What if Wojo clone coaches 3 Wade's and 2 Howard's?

Quote from: Scoop Snoop on January 16, 2023, 09:18:46 PM
Imagine if every team had a Wojo clone for their coach.

TSmith34, Inc.

Quote from: PointWarrior on January 16, 2023, 09:22:49 PM
What if Wojo clone coaches 3 Wade's and 2 Howard's?
That would have to have been a Crean team--no big.
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Lennys Tap

Quote from: brewcity77 on January 16, 2023, 09:14:31 PM
So you think Vander Blue and Junior Cadougan had a better team than Jae Crowder and DJO did?

No. But not fair. We lost our two best players (DJO and Jae)  -true- well, this year's team lost last year's two best players (Lewis and Morsell) and another starter (Kuath). But in 2013 returning starters (Vander and Junior) and returning sometimes starters (Davante and Jamal Wilson) were back a year older and better. And in 2013 transfer Trent Lockett arrived and starting Center Chris Otule returned from a season long injury. Reserves (Mayo, D Wilson and Juan Anderson) had another year under their belt. This year, starters TKolek and Omar returned a year older and better, and key reserves S Mitchell, Kam Jones, Oso and DJoplin are back a year older and better and our freshmen supply depth.

Not a perfect comp, I'll grant you, but close. I'm not saying 2013 was better than 2012. But lumping a regular season BE champ, NCAA #3 seed, Elite 8 team with a 2019 team with very little in the way of accomplishments is, with all due respect (and I mean that) way, way off.

Galway Eagle

Quote from: Lennys Tap on January 16, 2023, 10:58:52 PM
No. But not fair. We lost our two best players (DJO and Jae)  -true- well, this year's team lost last year's two best players (Lewis and Morsell) and another starter (Kuath). But in 2013 returning starters (Vander and Junior) and returning sometimes starters (Davante and Jamal Wilson) were back a year older and better. And in 2013 transfer Trent Lockett arrived and starting Center Chris Otule returned from a season long injury. Reserves (Mayo, D Wilson and Juan Anderson) had another year under their belt. This year, starters TKolek and Omar returned a year older and better, and key reserves S Mitchell, Kam Jones, Oso and DJoplin are back a year older and better and our freshmen supply depth.

Not a perfect comp, I'll grant you, but close. I'm not saying 2013 was better than 2012. But lumping a regular season BE champ, NCAA #3 seed, Elite 8 team with a 2019 team with very little in the way of accomplishments is, with all due respect (and I mean that) way, way off.

Jamil
Retire Terry Rand's jersey!

MUDPT

The 08 team got screwed by the Big East schedule and got seeded one line below ND, who they had beat twice.

I will also throw out that the 02 team was better than the 03 team.

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