Catching Creighton on 5 game lose streak Good or Bad

[NotAnAlum]

Creighton lost to AZ state making it 5 in a row.  Kind of thought it would be better for MU's chances if they had won.  Creighton is a good team with a lot of tradition and they are going to be desperate for a win this Friday.  That said their confidence could be pretty low and if we get off to a good start their desperation could lead to playing too tight and pressing.  Thoughts?

[MU82]

Doesn't matter.

[PGsHeroes32]

Its bad in the sense that a supposed Top BE team dropped 4 straight non con games to further hurt the conference and potential wins you get against them.

Does not matter as far as our game with them Friday.

[wadesworld]

Kick them while they're down.

[Jay Bee]

Creighton lost to AZ state making it 4 in a row.  Kind of thought it would be better for MU's chances if they had won.  Creighton is a good team with a lot of tradition and they are going to be desperate for a win this Friday.  That said their confidence could be pretty low and if we get off to a good start their desperation could lead to playing too tight and pressing.  Thoughts?

If by 4 you mean 5

[GoldenEagles03]

More than anything, this is an opportunity for this Marquette team to get better.  They'll probably still hover around .500 give or take a game or 2 just because the Big East will find itself as the season rolls along.

I know some would be disappointed with a .500 conference record but a lot of the league will be right around there too. Should be a fun and competitive year across the board and this is a great first test. 

You might also say we have motivation after going 0-3 against Creighton last year.  Either way I expect this team to come out with a lot of energy and effort.  Don't worry about what Creighton will bring or how desperate they will be, play our game.  Last year we started 0-3 in league play and dug ourselves a little hole to start.  Hopefully this year we get out to a hot start in league play!

[MarquetteDano]

More than anything, this is an opportunity for this Marquette team to get better.  They'll probably still hover around .500 give or take a game or 2 just because the Big East will find itself as the season rolls along.

I know some would be disappointed with a .500 conference record but a lot of the league will be right around there too. Should be a fun and competitive year across the board and this is a great first test. 

You might also say we have motivation after going 0-3 against Creighton last year.  Either way I expect this team to come out with a lot of energy and effort.  Don't worry about what Creighton will bring or how desperate they will be, play our game.  Last year we started 0-3 in league play and dug ourselves a little hole to start.  Hopefully this year we get out to a hot start in league play!

If we go 11-9 in league (around .500 as you stated) and only win a game in the BET,  we will be on the bubble.  The non-con for the league was quite poor this year so 11-9 may not do it.  Yes,  I will be disappointed as this team is better than that.

Agree that teams like Nova and Providence will improve as the season goes on.  Maybe a few others as well.  Nevertheless,  this team should go a minimum of 12-8 in conference.  I am expecting 13-7 now that I have seen what we can do.

Really need better than a 8-11 seed in tourney.  This team has the talent for a 6-7 seed.  For that I think 13-7 is a doable goal.

[lawdog77]

If by 4 you mean 5

We need to kick their butts Thursday

[rocky_warrior]

We need to kick their butts Thursday

Good idea, that should make the game easier on Friday

[GoldenEagles03]

If we go 11-9 in league (around .500 as you stated) and only win a game in the BET,  we will be on the bubble.  The non-con for the league was quite poor this year so 11-9 may not do it.  Yes,  I will be disappointed as this team is better than that.

Agree that teams like Nova and Providence will improve as the season goes on.  Maybe a few others as well.  Nevertheless,  this team should go a minimum of 12-8 in conference.  I am expecting 13-7 now that I have seen what we can do.

Really need better than a 8-11 seed in tourney.  This team has the talent for a 6-7 seed.  For that I think 13-7 is a doable goal.

I agree that they are talented enough to be a 6 or 7 seed, I'm just not sold on the results being that high.  Regardless of how the conference is in terms of quality, winning 12 of 20 games is still going to be difficult.  I wouldn't be any more shocked to see them go 8-12 as I would 12-8.

Their talent tells me they can be better than 10-10, but results don't always follow talent.  Starting 0-3 in league play like last year just won't cut it.  Gotta get out of the gates hot and we have a tough schedule to open up.

[GoldenEagles03]

We need to kick their butts Thursday

Would that be a Flagrant 2?

[real chili 83]

As long as we can sore more points than them......

[cheebs09]

Based on our losing streaks with Wojo, I would say it's not necessarily easy to break them.

[jfp61]

Creighton lost to AZ state making it 4 in a row.  Kind of thought it would be better for MU's chances if they had won.  Creighton is a good team with a lot of tradition and they are going to be desperate for a win this Friday.  That said their confidence could be pretty low and if we get off to a good start their desperation could lead to playing too tight and pressing.  Thoughts?

Bad because they're best player is returning after being out for 2 of the games, and Creighton just hurt their resume for 5 straight games.

Even if Marquette wins, the win looks worse.

[GoldenEagles03]

If we go 11-9 in league (around .500 as you stated) and only win a game in the BET,  we will be on the bubble.  The non-con for the league was quite poor this year so 11-9 may not do it.  Yes,  I will be disappointed as this team is better than that.

Agree that teams like Nova and Providence will improve as the season goes on.  Maybe a few others as well.  Nevertheless,  this team should go a minimum of 12-8 in conference.  I am expecting 13-7 now that I have seen what we can do.

Really need better than a 8-11 seed in tourney.  This team has the talent for a 6-7 seed.  For that I think 13-7 is a doable goal.

Also look at it this way.

To go 13-7, Marquette would have to sweep 3 teams in league play...that is also assuming they beat the other 7 teams at least once (including UConn). That is a really tall task.

[mubb3434]

If we go 11-9 in league (around .500 as you stated) and only win a game in the BET,  we will be on the bubble.  The non-con for the league was quite poor this year so 11-9 may not do it.  Yes,  I will be disappointed as this team is better than that.

Agree that teams like Nova and Providence will improve as the season goes on.  Maybe a few others as well.  Nevertheless,  this team should go a minimum of 12-8 in conference.  I am expecting 13-7 now that I have seen what we can do.

Really need better than a 8-11 seed in tourney.  This team has the talent for a 6-7 seed.  For that I think 13-7 is a doable goal.

11-9 and 1 BET win will be a tournament team with a win vs. Baylor and no bad non-conf losses. If you think the Big East is bad, take a look at the ACC or Pac 12.

[tower912]

Good idea, that should make the game easier on Friday

That is how MU can go 6-0 in the next 5 games.

[JakeBarnes]

They've been struggling. The team goal is to impose the tempo/pressure early. If the team can do that to Creighton it might take them out of the game early.

Hopefully the team can do it and have another sort of Baylor game.

[lawdog77]

Good idea, that should make the game easier on Friday

I think I am trying too hard to keep the joke from the Notre Dame game running.

[rocky_warrior]

I think I am trying too hard to keep the joke from the Notre Dame game running.

Bummer.  I thought it might be a joke, but apparently I'm not keeping up with posts enough.

[lawdog77]

Bummer.  I thought it might be a joke, but apparently I'm not keeping up with posts enough.

I think we need to dock your pay.

[MarquetteDano]

11-9 and 1 BET win will be a tournament team with a win vs. Baylor and no bad non-conf losses. If you think the Big East is bad, take a look at the ACC or Pac 12.

But depending on how we win or lose those 22 games (conf + BET),  we might be a 10-11 seed.  Sure we could blow out the 11 wins, and barely lose the 9 losses then we will be a lock.  But it tends to equal out over the course of the season.

This team is better than that.  I really think a 6-7 seed is where we should be.  13-7.  Let's do this.

[Jay Bee]

Bad because they're best player is returning after being out for 2 of the games, and Creighton just hurt their resume for 5 straight games.

Even if Marquette wins, the win looks worse.

Are we certain there best player will be playing in they're next game after being out to or know?

[wadesworld]

By and large your losses (who you lost to and number of losses) have mattered far less than big wins. The Baylor win will go a long way. Would like to beat UCONN at least once. Otherwise our opportunities are teams with a ceiling of roughly a 5 seed like Xavier or Creighton if they were to turn it around.

[BM1090]

Also look at it this way.

To go 13-7, Marquette would have to sweep 3 teams in league play...that is also assuming they beat the other 7 teams at least once (including UConn). That is a really tall task.

I prefer to look at it as going 8-2 at home and 5-5 on the road. I think we go 8-2 at home. We did last year and the Big East is worse.

Can we get five road wins? I think so. Kenpom has us favored in 14 of our 20 league matchups. T Rank is even kinder, favoring us in 16 of 20 games.

13-7 is attainable. Based on what we know right now, I'd be somewhat disappointed if we don't get to 12-8 or better.