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JakeBarnes

Quote from: jfp61 on December 13, 2022, 11:27:00 AM
Bad because they're best player is returning after being out for 2 of the games, and Creighton just hurt their resume for 5 straight games.

Even if Marquette wins, the win looks worse.

I forgot the committee has the "this win looked worse on the boards" metric.
Assume what I say should be in teal if it doesn't pass the smell test for you.

"We all carry within us our places of exile, our crimes and our ravages. But our task is not to unleash them on the world; it is to fight them in ourselves and in others." -Camus, The Rebel

Spotcheck Billy

Quote from: Jay Bee on December 13, 2022, 12:20:56 PM
Are we certain there best player will be playing in they're next game after being out to or know?

their vs. they're

TSmith34, Inc.

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on December 13, 2022, 10:59:13 AM
More than anything, this is an opportunity for this Marquette team to get better.  They'll probably still hover around .500 give or take a game or 2 just because the Big East will find itself as the season rolls along.

I know some would be disappointed with a .500 conference record but a lot of the league will be right around there too. Should be a fun and competitive year across the board and this is a great first test. 

You might also say we have motivation after going 0-3 against Creighton last year.  Either way I expect this team to come out with a lot of energy and effort.  Don't worry about what Creighton will bring or how desperate they will be, play our game.  Last year we started 0-3 in league play and dug ourselves a little hole to start.  Hopefully this year we get out to a hot start in league play!
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If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.

GoFastAndWin

We're going to get Creighton's best shot, that much is almost certain.

And that's what we need to continue to get better.

I hope we catch every Big East team at their best.


wadesworld

Quote from: GoFastAndWin on December 13, 2022, 04:00:46 PM
We're going to get Creighton's best shot, that much is almost certain.

And that's what we need to continue to get better.

I hope we catch every Big East team at their best.

Why would we get anything less than anyone's best?

GoFastAndWin

Quote from: wadesworld on December 13, 2022, 04:09:46 PM
Why would we get anything less than anyone's best?

So you're saying college kids aren't subject to trends and things like urgency?

Kids never come out uninspired after a big win or like a fire has been lit under them after a losing streak?

I get that you have to play devil's advocate; after all, this is Scoop. However, ask a Vegas line maker if everything is analytics and it all happens in a vacuum.


wadesworld

Quote from: GoFastAndWin on December 13, 2022, 05:26:04 PM
So you're saying college kids aren't subject to trends and things like urgency?

Kids never come out uninspired after a big win or like a fire has been lit under them after a losing streak?

I get that you have to play devil's advocate; after all, this is Scoop. However, ask a Vegas line maker if everything is analytics and it all happens in a vacuum.

I'm not sure what "college kids aren't subject to trends" even means.

But yes, I think Vegas is actually making their lines based on the results of a team's play and not some imagined desperation a team will feel. Otherwise Georgetown would be huge favorites in every Big East game until they win one. I mean, they've lost like 21 straight Big East games. With that amount of desperation how have they not blown the doors off of their next opponent every game?

GoFastAndWin

Quote from: wadesworld on December 13, 2022, 05:56:59 PM
I'm not sure what "college kids aren't subject to trends" even means.

But yes, I think Vegas is actually making their lines based on the results of a team's play and not some imagined desperation a team will feel. Otherwise Georgetown would be huge favorites in every Big East game until they win one. I mean, they've lost like 21 straight Big East games. With that amount of desperation how have they not blown the doors off of their next opponent every game?

Oy vey this place is insufferable.

Goose



TAMU, Knower of Ball

For every "they won because they lost x games in a row and were desperate for a win" there seems to be an equal numbers of "they lost because they lost x games in  a row and are completely lost right now". I think college athletes can be influenced by recent performances but I don't think there's anyway to accurately predict if the recent performance is going to have a positive, negative, or neutral impact.

What I will say is that Creighton's defense doesn't work without Kalkbrenner. If he's out or significantly limited, Marquette should win by a significant amount. If he's back, this will be a tough matchup because he is a Kolek killer.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
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MU82

It's the conference opener for both teams. If a coach can't get his players psyched up for that game no matter how many in a row they've won or lost, he should be fired.

Creighton was gonna be pumped for this game no matter what. As Marquette would have been.

We need to play well to win because of the talent Creighton puts on the floor, not because Creighton is on a 4-game 5-game losing streak.

"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Jay Bee

Quote from: MU82 on December 13, 2022, 09:38:30 PM
It's the conference opener for both teams. If a coach can't get his players psyched up for that game no matter how many in a row they've won or lost, he should be fired.

Creighton was gonna be pumped for this game no matter what. As Marquette would have been.

We need to play well to win because of the talent Creighton puts on the floor, not because Creighton is on a 4-game losing streak.

4 is the new 5
The portal is NOT closed.

NotAnAlum

Quote from: Jay Bee on December 13, 2022, 12:20:56 PM
Are we certain there best player will be playing in they're next game after being out to or know?
Their message board seems pretty sure it's mono and it might be mid Jan before he can play.

wadesworld

Can you have a 5 game losing streak without having a 4 game losing streak?

Jay Bee

The portal is NOT closed.

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Newsdreams

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swoopem

#43
Quote from: NotAnAlum on December 13, 2022, 09:57:42 PM
Their message board seems pretty sure it's mono and it might be mid Jan before he can play.

I'm no doctor but isn't mono contagious? He's been on the bench the last few games. I'd think if it were mono they'd have him at home resting
Bring back FFP!!!

MU82

"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

JakeBarnes

Quote from: swoopem on December 14, 2022, 07:14:28 AM
I'm no doctor but isn't mono contagious? He's been on the bench the last few games. I'd think if it were mono they'd have him at home resting

It is. But primarily if he is making out with people on the team or spitting on them.
Assume what I say should be in teal if it doesn't pass the smell test for you.

"We all carry within us our places of exile, our crimes and our ravages. But our task is not to unleash them on the world; it is to fight them in ourselves and in others." -Camus, The Rebel

PJDunn

Those are distinct possibilities on the plantation. especially expectoration.

Daniel

Quote from: JakeBarnes on December 14, 2022, 08:47:34 AM
It is. But primarily if he is making out with people on the team or spitting on them.

Yes usually not airborne, but I would not want to be near him if he sneezes.   That could spread it through droplets.  I was surprised he was with the team.   Rest is the key to getting over it and I think it takes a while.   

Galway Eagle

Quote from: JakeBarnes on December 14, 2022, 08:47:34 AM
It is. But primarily if he is making out with people on the team or spitting on them.

Has anyone watched Blue Mountain State when the whole team gets Cyphalis? "What, are they all banging each other?" "Happened before in 95..."
Retire Terry Rand's jersey!

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: Galway Eagle on December 14, 2022, 09:41:22 AM
Has anyone watched Blue Mountain State when the whole team gets Cyphalis? "What, are they all banging each other?" "Happened before in 95..."

I miss Blue Mountain State
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
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