Automatic Cocktail Makers

[MuggsyB]

I can be a coffee and food snob but that's not what this is about.  And I never disparaged the instant coffee consumer at all.  It's about a society that conforms to instantaneous gratification and total garbage while simultaneously destroying our environment.  And I've got news for you:  Keurig and Nespresso pods are instant coffee but you're pretending it's something else and lying to yourself and the world..  They could package and label it any way they want, with 1000 options and colors, and the end result is that you're stil drinking liquid crap through a very expensive machine. 

The fact that we have convinced ourselves that saving a few minutes supercedes quality, or that we have the gall to tell people the quality is good when it comes to coffee pods in particular, is what I object to on its face. We shouldn't celebrate dishonesty and lazines which is the true essence of pod culture.  People will still love you if you don't conform to it, especially our planet. 

[JWags85]

I can be a coffee and food snob but that's not what this is about.  And I never disparaged the instant coffee consumer at all.  It's about a society that conforms to instantaneous gratification and total garbage while simultaneously destroying our environment.  And I've got news for you:  Keurig and Nespresso pods are instant coffee but you're pretending it's something else and lying to yourself and the world..  They could package and label it any way they want, with 1000 options and colors, and the end result is that you're stil drinking liquid crap through a very expensive machine. 

The fact that we have convinced ourselves that saving a few minutes supercedes quality, or that we have the gall to tell people the quality is good when it comes to coffee pods in particular, is what I object to on its face. We shouldn't celebrate dishonesty and lazines which is the true essence of pod culture.  People will still love you if you don't conform to it, especially our planet.

You exhibited precisely the coffee snobbery called out at least 3 times in that diatribe while trying to pretend it was some highbrow service to the planet and consumer 

Instant coffee is “acceptable”…but on your terms.  Otherwise people are lazy and dishonest.    Never change Muggs

[Galway Eagle]

You exhibited precisely the coffee snobbery called out at least 3 times in that diatribe while trying to pretend it was some highbrow service to the planet and consumer 

Instant coffee is “acceptable”…but on your terms.  Otherwise people are lazy and dishonest.    Never change Muggs

I mean come on pods are objectively horrible for the amount of micro plastics in your body and the amount of non decomposable plastic that gets tossed. Go to town on Folgers pre ground or instant freeze dried coffee but it's perfectly valid to call out K cups and the pouches as bad for the environment

[JWags85]

I mean come on pods are objectively horrible for the amount of micro plastics in your body and the amount of non decomposable plastic that gets tossed. Go to town on Folgers pre ground or instant freeze dried coffee but it's perfectly valid to call out K cups and the pouches as bad for the environment

That’s fine, except he calls it “liquid crap” and shames Kcup consumers numerous times besides that.  I have a hunch that if they were made of biodegradable plant casing and perfectly recyclable or compostable…he’d feel exactly the same

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

And I never disparaged the instant coffee consumer at all.

It's about a society that conforms to instantaneous gratification and total garbage while simultaneously destroying our environment.

Translation: Instant coffee consumers are lazy and are destroying our environment

And I've got news for you:  Keurig and Nespresso pods are instant coffee but you're pretending it's something else and lying to yourself and the world..  They could package and label it any way they want, with 1000 options and colors, and the end result is that you're stil drinking liquid crap through a very expensive machine.

Translation: Instant coffee consumers are dumb and/or lie to themselves

The fact that we have convinced ourselves that saving a few minutes supercedes quality, or that we have the gall to tell people the quality is good when it comes to coffee pods in particular, is what I object to on its face. We shouldn't celebrate dishonesty and lazines which is the true essence of pod culture.  People will still love you if you don't conform to it, especially our planet.

Translation: Instant coffee consumers are lazy, have bad taste, and/or lie about their taste

That was an impressively quick contradiction. For the record, I'm not a coffee drinker so I don't have a dog in this fight and I agree with your point about them being bad for the environment.

[lawdog77]

Just putting this out there:

https://lifetechshorts.com/2022/03/17/is-nespresso-bad-for-the-environment/

[Galway Eagle]

Just putting this out there:

https://lifetechshorts.com/2022/03/17/is-nespresso-bad-for-the-environment/

So unless you order a specific recycle bag and dispose correctly or live in NYC they're horrible for environment... I'm skeptical of the overall percentage of users (especially given the consumption in workspaces) that actually dispose of these properly. Also plastic #5 instead of #7 is still plastic it's just like the lesser of two evils. It also should be acknowledged that the % of recycled materials that we actually recycle is absolutely abysmal so saying "yay recycle" is in fact the green washing he proclaims he's not doing.

The entire reasoning for the environmental impact he gave is based on waste. Nevermind that coffee water that's dumped is likely treated and cycled back through, the ground actually are quite fertile for compost or for aiding decomposition in landfills. I guess he has me slightly on efficiency but I have a very difficult time believing that the fancier machines with a touch screen are better than the average persons coffee maker with a clock.

[lawdog77]

Whenever you order nespresso, they give you a bag to recycle, and you mail it back to them (or drop it off at the local store).
Its easy, and even a lazy person like me can do it.

Full disclosure, I like the taste of the coffee I make in my cona, but as I said before, I am lazy.

[MuggsyB]

Translation: Instant coffee consumers are lazy and are destroying our environment

Translation: Instant coffee consumers are dumb and/or lie to themselves

Translation: Instant coffee consumers are lazy, have bad taste, and/or lie about their taste

That was an impressively quick contradiction. For the record, I'm not a coffee drinker so I don't have a dog in this fight and I agree with your point about them being bad for the environment.

Read up about the environmental impact Eagle.  Oh....and btw if you calculate the actual cost of pods of coffee it comes to $50 a pound.  And yes, we are lazy, foolish, and conform to idiotic things. 

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Read up about the environmental impact Eagle.  Oh....and btw if you calculate the actual cost of pods of coffee it comes to $50 a pound.  And yes, we are lazy, foolish, and conform to idiotic things. 

So you are now admitting to disparaging the instant coffee consumer?

[MuggsyB]

You exhibited precisely the coffee snobbery called out at least 3 times in that diatribe while trying to pretend it was some highbrow service to the planet and consumer 

Instant coffee is “acceptable”…but on your terms.  Otherwise people are lazy and dishonest.    Never change Muggs

Jwags, Folger's in a jar not the same thing as billions of these plastic pods which are neither biodegradable or recyclable. 

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Read up about the environmental impact Eagle.  Oh....and btw if you calculate the actual cost of pods of coffee it comes to $50 a pound.  And yes, we are lazy, foolish, and conform to idiotic things.

Like I said, I agree with your point about the environmental impacts. But don't claim you aren't disparaging instant coffee consumers when you are disparaging them. It's fine you have that opinion, just own it.

[MuggsyB]

Whenever you order nespresso, they give you a bag to recycle, and you mail it back to them (or drop it off at the local store).
Its easy, and even a lazy person like me can do it.

Full disclosure, I like the taste of the coffee I make in my cona, but as I said before, I am lazy.

Do you really think people are taking these pods when they reach the garbage, breaking them apart, and actually recycling them? 

[MuggsyB]

Like I said, I agree with your point about the environmental impacts. But don't claim you aren't disparaging instant coffee consumers when you are disparaging them. It's fine you have that opinion, just own it.

Okay, I'm disparaging them.  Fine  But getting their ground coffee from a bottle that has been sitting there for months or years is better than getting them in a plastic pod. 

[lawdog77]

Do you really think people are taking these pods when they reach the garbage, breaking them apart, and actually recycling them?

You dont have to break them apart. You just put it in the bag and either mail them, or take them to a Nespresso store. The aluminum is recycled, and the grounds are used to grow sea kelp for manatees.

[Galway Eagle]

Nespresso says its global recycling rate is 30%, and that 91% of its users have access to one of its 100,000 collection points around the world. But some experts have suggested that just 5% of Nespresso pods are recycled. Even if Nespresso’s figure is accurate, with a conservative estimate of 14bn capsules being sold each year, and 0.9 grams of aluminium per capsule, that means 12,600 tonnes of Nespresso aluminium end up in landfill annually

https://amp.theguardian.com/food/2020/jul/14/nespresso-coffee-capsule-pods-branding-clooney-nestle-recycling-environment

[rocky_warrior]

Nespresso says its global recycling rate is 30%, and that 91% of its users have access to one of its 100,000 collection points around the world. But some experts have suggested that just 5% of Nespresso pods are recycled. Even if Nespresso’s figure is accurate, with a conservative estimate of 14bn capsules being sold each year, and 0.9 grams of aluminium per capsule, that means 12,600 tonnes of Nespresso aluminium end up in landfill annually

https://amp.theguardian.com/food/2020/jul/14/nespresso-coffee-capsule-pods-branding-clooney-nestle-recycling-environment

Do beer/soda cans and plastic or glass bottles next

[Galway Eagle]

Do beer/soda cans and plastic or glass bottles next

I drink everything out of reusable burlap sacks. Not great for retaining the liquid itself but damn I feel good about the planet when I do.

[lawdog77]

I drink everything out of reusable burlap sacks. Not great for retaining the liquid itself but damn I feel good about the planet when I do.

I just drink water,  straight out of the lake in my backyard. Except for the occassioal cramps/exploding diarrhea,  I feel good.

[Jay Bee]

We shouldn't celebrate dishonesty and lazines which is the true essence of pod culture. 

Are you being lazy with your spelling of laziness?

Gotta run… need to throw some toxic salt melt all over my driveway, then get back inside and warm up with a fine, farm-to-table k-cup!! Mmmm

[Hards Alumni]

Love coffee, but usually use a traditional coffee maker to brew it. K-cups occasionally on main level of house, if I need just a late afternoon cup.. another Keurig is in the basement bar and never gets used

You probably like to get $7 weirdo coffee at Starbucks

Nope, grind my own beans, and have a Mochamaster.

Charbucks is a last resort and only if I'm desperate and can't find a local place.

[Hards Alumni]

I can be a coffee and food snob but that's not what this is about.  And I never disparaged the instant coffee consumer at all.  It's about a society that conforms to instantaneous gratification and total garbage while simultaneously destroying our environment.  And I've got news for you:  Keurig and Nespresso pods are instant coffee but you're pretending it's something else and lying to yourself and the world..  They could package and label it any way they want, with 1000 options and colors, and the end result is that you're stil drinking liquid crap through a very expensive machine. 

The fact that we have convinced ourselves that saving a few minutes supercedes quality, or that we have the gall to tell people the quality is good when it comes to coffee pods in particular, is what I object to on its face. We shouldn't celebrate dishonesty and lazines which is the true essence of pod culture.  People will still love you if you don't conform to it, especially our planet.

Based.

[Hards Alumni]

Do beer/soda cans and plastic or glass bottles next

Cans are fine, bottles should 100% be banned.

[🏀]

Cans are fine, bottles should 100% be banned.

Exception for High Life bottles, but otherwise yes.

[Hards Alumni]

Exception for High Life bottles, but otherwise yes.

I meant just plastic.  Glass is fine.