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Billy Hoyle

Quote from: Hards Alumni on December 03, 2022, 10:42:32 AM
How does one actually enjoy watching a team in EFL if you don't live in England?

Also, yuck.

Yeah, I don't get the idiots who become super fans of foreign teams from places they'll never visit. I think my favorite was the guy at a soccer bar I was at who was watching "totting-ham and lie-chester" dressed head to toe in Hotspurs gear.

I pay attention watch occasionally in the AM and generally pull for the smaller teams in a match (e.g. Brentford, Wolves, Bournemouth) or clubs friends once played with (Forest and Leeds). Otherwise, its like choosing to be a Yankees or Lakers fan when you live in Iowa.
"Kevin thinks 'mother' is half a word." - Mike Deane

wadesworld

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on December 03, 2022, 09:41:42 PM
Yeah, I don't get the idiots who become super fans of foreign teams from places they'll never visit. I think my favorite was the guy at a soccer bar I was at who was watching "totting-ham and lie-chester" dressed head to toe in Hotspurs gear.

I pay attention watch occasionally in the AM and generally pull for the smaller teams in a match (e.g. Brentford, Wolves, Bournemouth) or clubs friends once played with (Forest and Leeds). Otherwise, its like choosing to be a Yankees or Lakers fan when you live in Iowa.

And the alternative for the person from Iowa is...just not be a fan of any team?

The Sultan

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on December 03, 2022, 09:41:42 PM
Yeah, I don't get the idiots who become super fans of foreign teams from places they'll never visit. I think my favorite was the guy at a soccer bar I was at who was watching "totting-ham and lie-chester" dressed head to toe in Hotspurs gear.

I pay attention watch occasionally in the AM and generally pull for the smaller teams in a match (e.g. Brentford, Wolves, Bournemouth) or clubs friends once played with (Forest and Leeds). Otherwise, its like choosing to be a Yankees or Lakers fan when you live in Iowa.

Or someone can be a fan of whomever they want. Who cares?
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Hards Alumni

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on December 03, 2022, 09:41:42 PM
Yeah, I don't get the idiots who become super fans of foreign teams from places they'll never visit. I think my favorite was the guy at a soccer bar I was at who was watching "totting-ham and lie-chester" dressed head to toe in Hotspurs gear.

I pay attention watch occasionally in the AM and generally pull for the smaller teams in a match (e.g. Brentford, Wolves, Bournemouth) or clubs friends once played with (Forest and Leeds). Otherwise, its like choosing to be a Yankees or Lakers fan when you live in Iowa.

EFL is the 2nd tier league.  That'd be like ESPN+ and rooting for a AAA Baseball team in the hopes that the entire organization somehow gets called up to the majors to replace the Miami Marlins.  AND EVEN THEN, they'd likely get kicked back down to AAA with absolutely no chance of ever winning the EPL.

That's the point I was making.

21Jumpstreet

I'm a Sheffield Wednesday supporter, been since the early 90s when the Prem formed (now in League 1). I still search for the few games that are broadcast and soak it all in 🤷‍♂️

panda

Quote from: 21Jumpstreet on December 04, 2022, 06:49:05 AM
I'm a Sheffield Wednesday supporter, been since the early 90s when the Prem formed (now in League 1). I still search for the few games that are broadcast and soak it all in 🤷‍♂️

Nope - fake fan. How many players on the team are you even friends with ?

panda

Quote from: Hards Alumni on December 03, 2022, 10:45:08 PM
EFL is the 2nd tier league.  That'd be like ESPN+ and rooting for a AAA Baseball team in the hopes that the entire organization somehow gets called up to the majors to replace the Miami Marlins.  AND EVEN THEN, they'd likely get kicked back down to AAA with absolutely no chance of ever winning the EPL.

That's the point I was making.

Don't tell that to Manchester city fans. Or Leicester fans. Or Leeds fans. Etc

tower912

Fandom is not rational.   See: scoop.   Let people root for the teams they want.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

21Jumpstreet

Quote from: panda on December 04, 2022, 07:21:16 AM
Nope - fake fan. How many players on the team are you even friends with ?

Damn, you're absolutely right, my fandom has all been a mirage. I feel gutted and a fraud. Go U17 youth soccer team!

21Jumpstreet

Quote from: 21Jumpstreet on December 04, 2022, 10:49:00 AM
Damn, you're absolutely right, my fandom has all been a mirage. I feel gutted and a fraud. Go U17 Midwest youth soccer team!

tower912

panda was mocking Hoyle, not you.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

21Jumpstreet

Quote from: tower912 on December 04, 2022, 11:14:34 AM
panda was mocking Hoyle, not you.

Oh I know, I found it funny and well done. I too was mocking our Billy.

jesmu84

Let's assume gregggg leaves.

Who's your shortlist?

tower912

Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

tower912

Quote from: 21Jumpstreet on December 04, 2022, 11:53:27 AM
Oh I know, I found it funny and well done. I too was mocking our Billy.

Phew. 
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

shoothoops

#366
Quote from: Hards Alumni on December 03, 2022, 10:30:00 AM
Yeah, he is hurt.

Soccer is fun, you should watch more.  Pick an English Premier league team and throw it on before football (american) on Sundays.  It's lots of fun, but can be extremely stressful once you fall down the rabbit hole.

Oh, and to add only pick one of these EPL teams if you want to have a chance at a championship.

Chelsea
Man U
Man City
Liverpool
Tottenham
Arsenal

Soccer is also fun at many other levels too. It's not always about the best player or the best team.(Those things are great too.)

NCAA Women and Men's College soccer is very enjoyable. NWSL, MLS, are also enjoyable. Other leagues in various countries, that's fun too.

Youth soccer? You don't have to be an MLS Academy boys player, or ECNL girls player etc to enjoy the sport.

Soccer can be enjoyed on any level.

Often times when I run into people only interested in the top few teams in the top few leagues, these people seem to be like this with other sports too. For me, it's bouncing sport to sport, scooping the icing off of the cake, without enjoying the entire cake itself.

People can and do like what they like whether others understand it or not.

ZiggysFryBoy


tower912

Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Billy Hoyle

England v France as a quarterfinal is almost criminal. That's a finals matchup right there. It's Coming Home!
"Kevin thinks 'mother' is half a word." - Mike Deane

tower912

You aren't in England or France.   You can't be a real fan.


Or some such nonsense.   
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Billy Hoyle

#371
Quote from: tower912 on December 04, 2022, 08:22:10 PM
You aren't in England or France.   You can't be a real fan.


Or some such nonsense.

I have extensive family ties to England, and spent a lot of time there. Don't be a wanker.  Ancestry is far greater than "what team is on TV and always wins."


"Kevin thinks 'mother' is half a word." - Mike Deane

The Sultan

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on December 04, 2022, 08:46:05 PM
I have extensive family ties to England, and spent a lot of time there. Don't be a wanker.  Ancestry is far greater than "what team is on TV and always wins."

People can root for whomever they want for whatever reason they want. It's just sports.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

lawdog77

Quote from: Sultan Sultanberger on December 05, 2022, 03:14:12 AM
People can root for whomever they want for whatever reason they want. It's just sports.
I once saw Kylian Mbappe at the airport, so Go France!

Full disclosure, I was at the airport, he was on the TV at the airport.

Golden Avalanche

Richarlison has been quite good for Brasil. Should help him get a move in near future to a big club worthy of his potential.

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