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Re: Big East 23-24 Results
« Reply #4350 on: December 31, 2023, 08:52:11 AM »
My early thoughts regarding the BEast is that MU and UCONN are the two best teams by a significant margin.   3-9 may be a bit of a crapshoot?  As of now I'd go:

MU
UCONN
Prov
Nova
Creighton
Hall
St. J
Butler
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Gtown
DePaul

*  I'd actually be concerned if I was a Jays fan.  That team has no depth or much of a margin for error.  They also don't really have a PG.   They are pretty solid defensively but truth be told they have not impressed me.
I'd agree with your ranking, except you have DePaul way too high.

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Re: Big East 23-24 Results
« Reply #4351 on: December 31, 2023, 08:58:24 AM »
My early thoughts regarding the BEast is that MU and UCONN are the two best teams by a significant margin.   3-9 may be a bit of a crapshoot?  As of now I'd go:

MU
UCONN
Prov
Nova
Creighton
Hall
St. J
Butler
X
Gtown
DePaul

*  I'd actually be concerned if I was a Jays fan.  That team has no depth or much of a margin for error.  They also don't really have a PG.   They are pretty solid defensively but truth be told they have not impressed me.

I think of the BE in terms of four tiers this early in the season. I do not think there is enough evidence yet to rank 1-11. Top 3 MU, UCONN and maybe Providence. Second and third tiers TBD. E.G., Nova has been too flukey in non con to be pegged and I am not willing to write off Creighton. Butler just may surprise us. But the bottom feeders? GT and DP work for me.
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Re: Big East 23-24 Results
« Reply #4352 on: December 31, 2023, 10:10:11 AM »
I'd agree with your ranking, except you have DePaul way too high.

Lol.

How in the world did Nova lose to Drexel and Penn? 

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Re: Big East 23-24 Results
« Reply #4353 on: December 31, 2023, 10:31:51 AM »
Lol.

How in the world did Nova lose to Drexel and Penn?

Those teams played better or Nova didn’t attack without mercy
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Re: Big East 23-24 Results
« Reply #4354 on: December 31, 2023, 11:12:49 AM »
Those teams played better or Nova didn’t attack without mercy

I always assume that's a given. 

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Re: Big East 23-24 Results
« Reply #4355 on: December 31, 2023, 12:30:36 PM »
Providence is really good at home and have won both of their conference home games.  But one of them was an OT game against Butler.

I will wait to see how they fare on the road before I elevate them to the Top 3 in the conference.

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Re: Big East 23-24 Results
« Reply #4356 on: December 31, 2023, 12:33:36 PM »
Providence is really good at home and have won both of their conference home games.  But one of them was an OT game against Butler.

I will wait to see how they fare on the road before I elevate them to the Top 3 in the conference.

I agree with this as PC was 5-5 last year on road in conference play.

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Re: Big East 23-24 Results
« Reply #4357 on: December 31, 2023, 12:48:11 PM »
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Re: Big East 23-24 Results
« Reply #4358 on: December 31, 2023, 01:11:33 PM »
Providence is really good at home and have won both of their conference home games.  But one of them was an OT game against Butler.

I will wait to see how they fare on the road before I elevate them to the Top 3 in the conference.


I don't disagree with you.

MU hasn't come close to playing their A game, and that includes when we spanked Kansas. 

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Re: Big East 23-24 Results
« Reply #4360 on: December 31, 2023, 02:06:47 PM »
Lol.

How in the world did Nova lose to Drexel and Penn?

In the unlimited transfer era, we are going to see a lot more of these kinds of results in November and early December as the teams that are bringing in veteran players work their way into a new system and new group of teammates. They are going to be prone to getting upset by Lower level opponents that may have less talented, but more cohesive teams.

It’s probably a good idea to ignore some of these early results as the season wears on.

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Re: Big East 23-24 Results
« Reply #4361 on: December 31, 2023, 02:11:32 PM »
Providence is really good at home and have won both of their conference home games.  But one of them was an OT game against Butler.

I will wait to see how they fare on the road before I elevate them to the Top 3 in the conference.

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Re: Big East 23-24 Results
« Reply #4362 on: December 31, 2023, 02:16:02 PM »
Muggs … please …

MU has “ not come close to playing their A game - not even v. Kansas “

That’s a joke right ? 
How much “ better “ can they play than they did v. KU … or TX … ?

Please explain

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Re: Big East 23-24 Results
« Reply #4363 on: December 31, 2023, 02:17:25 PM »
My early reaction to the first rounds of big east games is that the conference might be a lot tighter than it was last year.

With the exception of Depaul and Georgetown, who may not win many except against each other, I see all of the other teams as being potentially dangerous at home and not pushovers on the road.

I’m still going with my projection of MU at 15-5;(same as Pomeroy), and if they do that, I would expect them to be in the thick of the conference title race.

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Re: Big East 23-24 Results
« Reply #4364 on: December 31, 2023, 03:15:00 PM »
Muggs … please …

MU has “ not come close to playing their A game - not even v. Kansas “

That’s a joke right ? 
How much “ better “ can they play than they did v. KU … or TX … ?

Please explain

We went 6/25 (24%) from three. Many of those misses were wide open. Imagine if we played the exact same AND had a decent shooting game? Could've won by 25+
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Re: Big East 23-24 Results
« Reply #4365 on: December 31, 2023, 03:40:42 PM »
We went 6/25 (24%) from three. Many of those misses were wide open. Imagine if we played the exact same AND had a decent shooting game? Could've won by 25+

Exactly.  We also kicked the ball away a bit.  We did not play our best game offensively. 

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Re: Big East 23-24 Results
« Reply #4366 on: December 31, 2023, 03:40:54 PM »
A decent shooting game from 3 is 33%, or 8-24.
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Re: Big East 23-24 Results
« Reply #4367 on: December 31, 2023, 04:27:45 PM »
A decent shooting game from 3 is 33%, or 8-24.

Yep. That gets us to 20+. Raise it to 40% which is reasonable especially for an A game,  and its 10/25
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Re: Big East 23-24 Results
« Reply #4370 on: January 02, 2024, 02:05:39 PM »
Providence no Matta. Offensive offense, plus coach of questionable character* (*based solely on the Mizzou / MU game)
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Re: Big East 23-24 Results
« Reply #4371 on: January 02, 2024, 07:25:48 PM »
UConn eking it out against DePaul.
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« Reply #4372 on: January 02, 2024, 07:52:08 PM »
This Butler/SJU game could have massive Big East implications as the season develops.
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Re: Big East 23-24 Results
« Reply #4373 on: January 02, 2024, 07:55:17 PM »
This Butler/SJU game could have massive Big East implications as the season develops.

Yeah. Who finishes 6th will be massive.
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« Reply #4374 on: January 02, 2024, 07:58:59 PM »
Yeah. Who finishes 6th will be massive.

It will because both of them have a shot to dance, but it is probably unlikely that they both do.

Might only be room for one of them.
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