Big East 2024 -25 Results

[wisblue]

Marquette still has the highest ceiling in the BEast. 

That's an opinion that would be hard to support in an objective discussion.

[PGsHeroes32]

MU has the highest ceiling of the three. 

That ceiling starts with MU getting a elite 8 match up in a gym holding 5K against DePaul.

We have zero extended ceiling with David the mad bomber Joplin doing what he does

And that's without mentioning the other less in your face flaws of the team.

[GoldenEagles03]

That's an opinion that would be hard to support in an objective discussion.

Would it?

They are the highest projected seed in the league for a reason with arguably the best player. Ceiling is what they could get to, not what they will get to, and MU has a high ceiling.

[wadesworld]

The Johnnies want that league crown. They turn every game into an ugly war.

UConn scored 21 points in the 1st 5.5 minutes. They've scored 31 in the next 32 minutes.

Stuck on 52 with under 4 to play.

Gonna be hard for them to win the league title when UCONN is running the table.

[Uncle Rico]

Would it?

They are the highest projected seed in the league for a reason with arguably the best player. Ceiling is what they could get to, not what they will get to, and MU has a high ceiling.

If Marquette had mid-range shooters, they'd be unstoppable

[MuggsyB]

Would it?

They are the highest projected seed in the league for a reason with arguably the best player. Ceiling is what they could get to, not what they will get to, and MU has a high ceiling.

Lots of people here refuse to deal with reality.  We're struggling, that's not the point.  We all know what this team is capable of when we're clicking on all cylinders.  I believe we can get out of this funk and back on track in the next few weeks. 

[PGsHeroes32]

Lots of people here refuse to deal with reality.  We're struggling, that's not the point.  We all know what this team is capable of when we're clicking on all cylinders.  I believe we can get out of this funk and back on track in the next few weeks.

What is that though?

We absolutely have some good wins. Like Purdue and at Maryland. Even GEs badgers.

But weve been the same team for a loooooooong time. With Kam in a major slump as the only real turn in BE. Everyone else is who they are. We are 20 games in. Nc State Joplin is clearly who he is at this point. Gold is not going to randomly emerge as consistent scorer. He hasn't all year.

If Kam rights the ship(which also depends on other guys so he's not pressed) then yeah we can beat most teams in 1 game. But this team hasn't shown anything this year that they can win a bunch in a row against teams with a pulse.

[GoldenEagles03]

Gonna be hard for them to win the league title when UCONN is running the table.

You are outrageously extreme. Idk if it's a schtick or your really that crazy. Either way...lol

[GoldenEagles03]

What is that though?

We absolutely have some good wins. Like Purdue and at Maryland. Even GEs badgers.

But weve been the same team for a loooooooong time. With Kam in a major slump as the only real turn in BE. Everyone else is who they are. We are 20 games in. Nc State Joplin is clearly who he is at this point. Gold is not going to randomly emerge as consistent scorer. He hasn't all year.

If Kam rights the ship(which also depends on other guys so he's not pressed) then yeah we can beat most teams in 1 game. But this team hasn't shown anything this year that they can win a bunch in a row against teams with a pulse.

WadesWorld's Badgers

[DoctorV]

We all watch a lot of BE hoops, but even this deep into the season I'd argue it's pretty hard to pinpoint which of the big4 has the best chance at a deep Final 4 run

StJ clearly playing the best currently, and their defense and size/length combo gives them a chance, but man they just can't shoot the ball from the outside so they are a wild card. That effective mid range game is such a unicorn these days, and much like MU they have to worry about getting called for a lot of fouls because they play so aggressive. They play a thinner bench than Marquette though.

UConn seems to have the parts- Ball is a rising star that as we saw can be a microwave shooter/scorer. McNeeley can light it up and Reed looked good inside tonight.
Karaban is such a head scratcher- he's so slow and that squad overall is a step slow. They have Hurley though and like StJ that gives them a step up.

Marquette we know about- defense in place, rebounding better but still a weak link, shooting can/should be there but isn't.
I'll agree with Muggsy on the highest ceiling part because if Kam is the Kam of earlier this year Marquette has the biggest room to grow from now until Madness.
Also has the biggest room to fade if they keep shooting like dung and Kam doesn't get right

Creighton we can report back after tomorrow, but it's just hard to see the Kalk and Ash show riding high in March. I doubted StJ a few weeks ago though, and look at where we are now.

One thing is for certain- Hurley, Pitino, McDermott, Shaka are all elite af and any BE team that dances is gonna have a chance at a nice run because of those guys.

[MU82]

Very enjoyable game to watch.

Impressed again by St. John's toughness and tenacity.

UConn again couldn't take care of the ball and St. John's took advantage of it better than we did.

It will be interesting to see who gets "doomed" earlier in the NCAAs: bad-shooting St. John's or sloppy UConn.

[wisblue]

Would it?

They are the highest projected seed in the league for a reason with arguably the best player. Ceiling is what they could get to, not what they will get to, and MU has a high ceiling.

The counter argument would be that MU is currently the highest projected seed, but that seed is based largely on games played in November and early December. Other teams have improved markedly since then while MU has plateaued.

[Oldgym]

The counter argument would be that MU is currently the highest projected seed, but that seed is based largely on games played in November and early December. Other teams have improved markedly since then while MU has plateaued.

100%. Bracketologists look at the whole resume because they have to. I think we'd all rather MU go in as a six seed on a heater than a four that's trending the wrong way.

[GoldenEagles03]

The counter argument would be that MU is currently the highest projected seed, but that seed is based largely on games played in November and early December. Other teams have improved markedly since then while MU has plateaued.

That's because the Big East only has 4 quality  teams, and one of them is Marquette who cannot play themselves.

They are 18-5, 9-3. They've won all year, not just the Non-Con.

[PointWarrior]

That's because the Big East only has 4 quality  teams, and one of them is Marquette who cannot play themselves.

They are 18-5, 9-3. They've won all year, not just the Non-Con.

at this point in time, lets evaluate on March 9.

[Scoop Snoop]

Very enjoyable game to watch.

Impressed again by St. John's toughness and tenacity.

UConn again couldn't take care of the ball and St. John's took advantage of it better than we did.

It will be interesting to see who gets "doomed" earlier in the NCAAs: bad-shooting St. John's or sloppy UConn.

Anybody here who was confident that SJ could quickly erase a 14-point deficit on UCONN's home court before halftime?

"Bad shooting" SJ is our last game and it is at Fiserv, and "sloppy" UCONN is our 2nd to last and is on the road. I'm much more interested in the outcome of those 2 games than I am about how they do in the tourney Mike. Marquette could not handle either team on the first try. Let's hope for Ws in the rematches.

[wisblue]

That's because the Big East only has 4 quality  teams, and one of them is Marquette who cannot play themselves.

They are 18-5, 9-3. They've won all year, not just the Non-Con.

If you look at just the conference games and factor in Fremantle's injury, Xavier is very comparable to MU today. They just had the misfortune of playing 7 of their first 11 conference games against the fop 4. They played tough in every one of those games but 1.

I could see a MU-Xavier rubber match in the BET quarters and, if it happens, it would be a tossup.

[MurphysTillClose]

Better roster with a better coach. Not anymore than that

[PGsHeroes32]

If you look at just the conference games and factor in Fremantle's injury, Xavier is very comparable to MU today. They just had the misfortune of playing 7 of their first 11 conference games against the fop 4. They played tough in every one of those games but 1.

I could see a MU-Xavier rubber match in the BET quarters and, if it happens, it would be a tossup.

No we are definitely better than X

But still not confident about us over all

[DoctorV]

It will be interesting to see who gets "doomed" earlier in the NCAAs: bad-shooting St. John's or sloppy UConn.

Or brick laying soft serve on the glass Marquette 🫣

[willie warrior]

The counter argument would be that MU is currently the highest projected seed, but that seed is based largely on games played in November and early December. Other teams have improved markedly since then while MU has plateaued.

They have regressed.

[BM1090]

If you look at just the conference games and factor in Fremantle's injury, Xavier is very comparable to MU today. They just had the misfortune of playing 7 of their first 11 conference games against the fop 4. They played tough in every one of those games but 1.

I could see a MU-Xavier rubber match in the BET quarters and, if it happens, it would be a tossup.

Sure. But MU is very close to Creighton and ahead of Uconn after 12 games. And could be in 2nd place in 16 hours. If Xavier is very close to MU, then they are very close to UConn and Creighton too.

[MU82]

Anybody here who was confident that SJ could quickly erase a 14-point deficit on UCONN's home court before halftime?

"Bad shooting" SJ is our last game and it is at Fiserv, and "sloppy" UCONN is our 2nd to last and is on the road. I'm much more interested in the outcome of those 2 games than I am about how they do in the tourney Mike. Marquette could not handle either team on the first try. Let's hope for Ws in the rematches.

We led St. John's late. We outscored UConn by 16 points over last 25 minutes.

We lost both games, and that sucked, but I really don't think either team owned us or anything.

And none of that contradicts what I said about St. John's being a poor shooting team or UConn committing too many turnovers.

You put things into a Marquette context, which obviously is A-OK, but I was just talking about those two Big East teams here in the Big East thread.

[Uncle Rico]

They have regressed.

Thanks Woptart

[Newsdreams]

That ceiling starts with MU getting a elite 8 match up in a gym holding 5K against DePaul.

We have zero extended ceiling with David the mad bomber Joplin doing what he does

And that's without mentioning the other less in your face flaws of the team.

This must be a Willard burner account