Big East 2024 -25 Results

[wisblue]

Sure. But MU is very close to Creighton and ahead of Uconn after 12 games. And could be in 2nd place in 16 hours. If Xavier is very close to MU, then they are very close to UConn and Creighton too.

Exactly. Their head to head games against the top teams in the conference say they are very close to them.

[wisblue]

No we are definitely better than X

But still not confident about us over all

They certainly didn't prove it in the head to head games.

[Scoop Snoop]

We led St. John's late. We outscored UConn by 16 points over last 25 minutes.

We lost both games, and that sucked, but I really don't think either team owned us or anything.

And none of that contradicts what I said about St. John's being a poor shooting team or UConn committing too many turnovers.

You put things into a Marquette context, which obviously is A-OK, but I was just talking about those two Big East teams here in the Big East thread.

I usually do not wrestle with you, but the bottom lines are 1) that we lost to both teams despite their weaknesses and 2) you referred specifically to how they might struggle in the NCAA tourney. rather than going forward in BE play.

Yes, we had a nice come back vs. UCONN. But have you forgotten how much we were down before that happened? Only the final score matters, and we were on the wrong side of it.

[PGsHeroes32]

They certainly didn't prove it in the head to head games.

1. by that logic it means Kstate is far better than ISU

2. We were boat racing them on the road until the ref show took place. And at home needed terrible even by our standards shooting game to lose by two.

And then they have an infinitely worse resume. So yeah, clear cut we are better

[wisblue]

1. by that logic it means Kstate is far better than ISU

2. We were boat racing them on the road until the ref show took place. And at home needed terrible even by our standards shooting game to lose by two.

And then they have an infinitely worse resume. So yeah, clear cut we are better

1. That was not my starting point. If you compare ALL of the conference games and how the teams have done against mutual opponents, there is little to no separation.

2. The two head to head games could hardly be more alike. Road team has big lead and holds off a comeback to win by 2.

MU's resume is clearly better because of the OOC. Freemantle's injury affected X early in the conference season too.

If there is a separation between MU and X it has shrunk significantly since the middle of December.

[Billy Hoyle]

Slick Rick advocating for BE expansion. Either merging with the ACC in some way or adding SLU, Dayton and Memphis.

https://nypost.com/2025/02/07/sports/rick-pitino-adamant-big-east-will-miss-the-boat-without-an-expansion/

[The Sultan]

Rick should stick to basketball

[Billy Hoyle]

Butler holds on despite their best efforts to give Providence the win. Earlier in the day Cassia was announced as having left the team and planning to transfer (he'd been out injured since early December). He started a few games for Screen before getting injured.

[DFW HOYA]

Slick Rick advocating for BE expansion. Either merging with the ACC in some way or adding SLU, Dayton and Memphis.

He's barking up a tree. There's no money for a 29 team conference, 18 of whom are tied to a grant of rights with ESPN until 2036.

[wisblue]

Interesting game today.

Xavier at Villanova in a battle for 5th place.

One of these teams is likely to be MU's first BET opponent in the 4-5 or 3-6 game.

[Billy Hoyle]

Interesting game today.

Xavier at Villanova in a battle for 5th place.

One of these teams is likely to be MU's first BET opponent in the 4-5 or 3-6 game.

Xavier's running musketeer unis are a thing of beauty

[GoldenEagles03]

Eric Dixon just realized he doesn't have to chuck 3s every possession and he looks dangerous.

That's a tough body to stop from getting to the rim. In total control over Xavier after just 2 points in the 1st half.

[mugrad_89]

Eric Dixon just realized he doesn't have to chuck 3s every possession and he looks dangerous.

That's a tough body to stop from getting to the rim. In total control over Xavier after just 2 points in the 1st half.

He's really good, but for a big man it's amazing how much he ends up on the ground.

[tower912]

He's really good, but for a big man it's amazing how much he ends up on the ground.

OMax turned it into an NBA career.

[Billy Hoyle]

Eric Dixon just realized he doesn't have to chuck 3s every possession and he looks dangerous.

That's a tough body to stop from getting to the rim. In total control over Xavier after just 2 points in the 1st half.

He's back in the BE POY race after that second half today.

Top tier:
Kam
Kalk
Dixon

Darkhorse:
Luis, Jr

[GoldenEagles03]

He's back in the BE POY race after that second half today.

Top tier:
Kam
Kalk
Dixon

Darkhorse:
Luis, Jr

Probably still swap Luis and Dixon. The Johnnies are the hot topic right now.

[Billy Hoyle]

Probably still swap Luis and Dixon. The Johnnies are the hot topic right now.

I thought about that, but Richmond might get some consideration from people looking at the Johnnies, taking away votes from Luis.

[DoctorV]

Dixon won't win it.
Luis Jr and Richmond won't either, but both may be 1st team.

Barring injury, it's Kalkbrenner's to lose imo, unless Marquette somehow wins out and Creighton fades.
He's just come on so strong and he's elite on both ends, going to be very hard for him to lose it with those offensive numbers.

It's unfortunate because Kam seemed to be a solid front runner several weeks ago.
Now his 1st Team AA hopes need a jolt too.
I have a 100$ bet with a friend that he's a first teamer, not as confident anymore

[PointWarrior]

Would it?

They are the highest projected seed in the league for a reason with arguably the best player. Ceiling is what they could get to, not what they will get to, and MU has a high ceiling.

celling has been lowered by about 4 seed lines in the last 4 weeks...

[GoldenEagles03]

celling has been lowered by about 4 seed lines in the last 4 weeks...

Seed lines don't determine ceiling. Seed lines place you in a 68 team bracket.

[TallTitan34]

NCAA has ruled St. John's BET games will now be considered neutral court games instead of home games as they have been in the past.

[StillWarriors]

NCAA has ruled St. John's BET games will now be considered neutral court games instead of home games as they have been in the past.

Ironic, because this time they will have a far more engaged and sizable crowd. I haven't seen the reason why anywhere, but from the conference's standpoint, I guess it will improve their metrics.

[MU82]

Barring injury, it's Kalkbrenner's to lose imo, unless Marquette somehow wins out and Creighton fades.
He's just come on so strong and he's elite on both ends, going to be very hard for him to lose it with those offensive numbers.

I want to push back on this because I feel the 30-year-old generally has been overrated during his 12 years at Creighton.

But if I'm to be objective instead of just Marquette-centric, Kalkbrenner is having a superb conference season. In Saturday's game, our players had him on their mind almost every time they entered the paint. He "blocked" many, many more shots with just his presence than he actually blocked with his hand.

Given the trajectory of both teams, it's hard to see Kalkbrenner not getting BEPOY over Kam. And though it's painful to say it, he deserves it.

At least as of today. Maybe Kam goes krazy over the next 4 weeks and Kalkbrenner takes a step back.

[rocky_warrior]

Maybe Kam goes krazy over the next 4 weeks and Kalkbrenner takes a step back kools off.

FIFY

[GoldenEagles03]

McNeeley with all 9 of UConns points against Creighton to start.

Creighton is 8-2 all time against UConn. Surprised to read that today.