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MU82

An emboldened cast of anonymous trolls spewed racist slurs and Nazi memes onto Twitter in the hours after billionaire industrialist Elon Musk took over the social network, raising fears that his pledge of unrestricted free speech could fuel a new wave of online hate.

The flood of racist posts was among the most prominent signs of how Twitter had changed in the first hours of Musk's ownership.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/10/28/musk-twitter-racist-posts/?utm_campaign=wp_post_most&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&wpisrc=nl_most&carta-url=https%3A%2F%2Fs2.washingtonpost.com%2Fcar-ln-tr%2F383c104%2F635bfbbcf3d9003c581d2c05%2F5f8d147cae7e8a56e5b732a4%2F59%2F72%2F635bfbbcf3d9003c581d2c05&wp_cu=b1005792a416de1fbe1f17e5cf366b7d%7CB1FF71CA724A36FAE0530100007F88D6
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Jockey

Quote from: MU82 on October 28, 2022, 06:32:09 PM
An emboldened cast of anonymous trolls spewed racist slurs and Nazi memes onto Twitter in the hours after billionaire industrialist Elon Musk took over the social network, raising fears that his pledge of unrestricted free speech could fuel a new wave of online hate.

The flood of racist posts was among the most prominent signs of how Twitter had changed in the first hours of Musk's ownership.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/10/28/musk-twitter-racist-posts/?utm_campaign=wp_post_most&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&wpisrc=nl_most&carta-url=https%3A%2F%2Fs2.washingtonpost.com%2Fcar-ln-tr%2F383c104%2F635bfbbcf3d9003c581d2c05%2F5f8d147cae7e8a56e5b732a4%2F59%2F72%2F635bfbbcf3d9003c581d2c05&wp_cu=b1005792a416de1fbe1f17e5cf366b7d%7CB1FF71CA724A36FAE0530100007F88D6

That was the plan. Elon got his way.

forgetful

Quote from: Jockey on October 28, 2022, 07:15:54 PM
That was the plan. Elon got his way.

He's also going to have to cough up $187M for firing the top 3 execs.

Jockey

Quote from: forgetful on October 28, 2022, 08:58:30 PM
He's also going to have to cough up $187M for firing the top 3 execs.

Chump change.

MU82

On Elon Musk's first full day as the owner of Twitter, the social media company immediately began to feel his imprint.

Twitter's top executives were fired and its board of directors dissolved. The company said its stock would stop trading on the New York Stock Exchange on Nov. 8. Mr. Musk announced that he planned to form a council to handle Twitter's content questions and would not immediately reinstate users who had been barred. And he tapped confidants for help and established a "war room" at Twitter to review its products and policies.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/28/business/twitter-elon-musk.html?campaign_id=9&emc=edit_nn_20221029&instance_id=76028&nl=the-morning&regi_id=108420427&segment_id=111448&te=1&user_id=d36dcf821462fdd16ec3636710a855fa

So there will be content rules. Musk is forming a "council" and a "war room" to decide what will and won't be allowed.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

The Sultan

He has to be careful because the big advertisers will follow GM's lead and just pull out of Twitter if it becomes a sh*tshow.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

MU82

Quote from: Sultan Sultanberger on October 29, 2022, 09:48:18 AM
He has to be careful because the big advertisers will follow GM's lead and just pull out of Twitter if it becomes a sh*tshow.

Based on my earlier post -- An emboldened cast of anonymous trolls spewed racist slurs and Nazi memes onto Twitter in the hours after billionaire industrialist Elon Musk took over the social network, raising fears that his pledge of unrestricted free speech could fuel a new wave of online hate -- it is already becoming a sh*tshow.

"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

The Sultan

Quote from: MU82 on October 29, 2022, 10:09:29 AM
Based on my earlier post -- An emboldened cast of anonymous trolls spewed racist slurs and Nazi memes onto Twitter in the hours after billionaire industrialist Elon Musk took over the social network, raising fears that his pledge of unrestricted free speech could fuel a new wave of online hate -- it is already becoming a sh*tshow.

That was inevitable in the short term. Let's see what happens moving forward.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

reinko

#33
The Saudi's are the 2nd largest owner of Twitter.

I'm sure that will have zero impact.

🤔

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/oct/18/saudi-arabia-us-citizen-prison-critical-tweets-regime

Hards Alumni

Quote from: MU82 on October 29, 2022, 10:09:29 AM
Based on my earlier post -- An emboldened cast of anonymous trolls spewed racist slurs and Nazi memes onto Twitter in the hours after billionaire industrialist Elon Musk took over the social network, raising fears that his pledge of unrestricted free speech could fuel a new wave of online hate -- it is already becoming a sh*tshow.

Same moderation algorithms are currently in place, and the bad stuff was removed.

Calm down, Francis.

MU82

Quote from: Hards Alumni on October 29, 2022, 02:00:57 PM
Same moderation algorithms are currently in place, and the bad stuff was removed.

Calm down, Francis.

We'll see what Musk's "council" allows. As I've said, though, I'm all for Twatter publishing it all. I like knowing who the racists are, who is planning civil war, etc. Musk's the one who used the word, "hellscape."
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

4everwarriors

Quote from: MU82 on October 28, 2022, 06:32:09 PM
An emboldened cast of anonymous trolls spewed racist slurs and Nazi memes onto Twitter in the hours after billionaire industrialist Elon Musk took over the social network, raising fears that his pledge of unrestricted free speech could fuel a new wave of online hate.

The flood of racist posts was among the most prominent signs of how Twitter had changed in the first hours of Musk's ownership.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/10/28/musk-twitter-racist-posts/?utm_campaign=wp_post_most&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&wpisrc=nl_most&carta-url=https%3A%2F%2Fs2.washingtonpost.com%2Fcar-ln-tr%2F383c104%2F635bfbbcf3d9003c581d2c05%2F5f8d147cae7e8a56e5b732a4%2F59%2F72%2F635bfbbcf3d9003c581d2c05&wp_cu=b1005792a416de1fbe1f17e5cf366b7d%7CB1FF71CA724A36FAE0530100007F88D6




Oh, did Kyrie tweet, hey?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

lawdog77

Quote from: MU82 on October 29, 2022, 04:29:19 PM
We'll see what Musk's "council" allows. As I've said, though, I'm all for Twatter publishing it all. I like knowing who the racists are, who is planning civil war, etc. Musk's the one who used the word, "hellscape."
Or like Rico who will bash Christians when he gets the chance (and you agreeing with it)

CountryRoads

Quote from: MU82 on October 29, 2022, 04:29:19 PM
We'll see what Musk's "council" allows. As I've said, though, I'm all for Twatter publishing it all. I like knowing who the racists are, who is planning civil war, etc. Musk's the one who used the word, "hellscape."

Content moderation on Twitter will largely remain the same. Also, keep in mind that Twitter wasn't exactly a perfect community with regards to moderation before the takeover.

Where I think the biggest difference will be is in content distribution and visibility. I don't think Twitter was suppressing free speech from anyone, but they do control who is heard and who isn't to a large extent. Technically, there's nothing wrong with that since it's their platform. People have the right to free speech, not the right to be heard. Even the right to free speech is debatable on social media.

Anyway, I think it's safe to say that Twitter had a pretty strong left-wing bias when it came to distribution or reach of content. I think that will even out more but you may not even notice it much as ideally people will be shown content that more closely aligns with their interests.

I also think Musk will incentivize putting your actual name or identity to your words. Authentication will be a key thing for him.

MUBurrow

Quote from: CountryRoads on October 29, 2022, 05:25:28 PM
I also think Musk will incentivize putting your actual name or identity to your words. Authentication will be a key thing for him.

Why do think that? I know he made it a key issue pre-sale during due diligence, but that's because it wasn't his problem then and he could use it to get out of the sale/lower the price/generally grab headlines. Now that it's his problem I'm suspicious that he actually will do anything about it or cares.

Lennys Tap

Quote from: forgetful on October 28, 2022, 08:58:30 PM
He's also going to have to cough up $187M for firing the top 3 execs.

Like Wojo's buyout,this one, while expensive, will prove worthwhile.

Hards Alumni

Quote from: CountryRoads on October 29, 2022, 05:25:28 PM
Content moderation on Twitter will largely remain the same. Also, keep in mind that Twitter wasn't exactly a perfect community with regards to moderation before the takeover.

Where I think the biggest difference will be is in content distribution and visibility. I don't think Twitter was suppressing free speech from anyone, but they do control who is heard and who isn't to a large extent. Technically, there's nothing wrong with that since it's their platform. People have the right to free speech, not the right to be heard. Even the right to free speech is debatable on social media.

Anyway, I think it's safe to say that Twitter had a pretty strong left-wing bias when it came to distribution or reach of content. I think that will even out more but you may not even notice it much as ideally people will be shown content that more closely aligns with their interests.

I also think Musk will incentivize putting your actual name or identity to your words. Authentication will be a key thing for him.

I hate to be the one to tell you this, but the US has a strong left wing bias.

jficke13

Quote from: MUBurrow on October 29, 2022, 07:13:38 PM
Why do think that? I know he made it a key issue pre-sale during due diligence, but that's because it wasn't his problem then and he could use it to get out of the sale/lower the price/generally grab headlines. Now that it's his problem I'm suspicious that he actually will do anything about it or cares.

Bc the saudis are huge investors and forcing identity disclosure means they will get to crack down on dissidents.

ZiggysFryBoy

Quote from: Hards Alumni on October 29, 2022, 08:26:48 PM
I hate to be the one to tell you this, but the US has a strong left wing bias.

Wat?  The US is center right.

Dane Co is strongly left, obvs.

real chili 83

Quote from: Hards Alumni on October 29, 2022, 02:00:57 PM
Same moderation algorithms are currently in place, and the bad stuff was removed.

Calm down, Francis.

Agreed.

Some stupid stuff will get through, like before.

Previously, the spin was....can't catch it all, but they are trying.

Today's spin....look at what they are allowing.

MU82

Quote from: CountryRoads on October 29, 2022, 05:25:28 PM
I also think Musk will incentivize putting your actual name or identity to your words. Authentication will be a key thing for him.

That would be huge. We'll see.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

pbiflyer

Musk already tweeting unfounded conspiracy theories. Who would have guessed???

Hards Alumni

Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on October 29, 2022, 09:27:10 PM
Wat?  The US is center right.

Dane Co is strongly left, obvs.

I guess that's fair, our President is a center right dude.

Lighthouse 84

Quote from: Hards Alumni on October 30, 2022, 09:34:55 AM
I guess that's fair, our President is a center right dude.
Some things are so obvious that you don't need teal, hey?
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Lennys Tap

Quote from: Hards Alumni on October 30, 2022, 09:34:55 AM
I guess that's fair, our President is a center right dude.

Was. Not is. Unless you put Bernie and The Squad squarely in the middle.

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