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Powell/Economy

Started by MuggsyB, August 26, 2022, 10:27:07 AM

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21Jumpstreet

Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on August 31, 2022, 01:37:05 PM
And making lots and lots of money at the expense of anything else. Can't forget that.

Except LIV golf

JWags85

Quote from: rocky_warrior on August 31, 2022, 12:33:02 PM
Urgent push?  They are still very much a luxury item.  Sure...one that's being encouraged, but other than "being good to the earth" I haven't felt any pressure to get one. 

Come on man, California said no gas powered cars by 2035!  Thats basically tomorrow.  Most people won't even have a chance to buy a new gas powered car if they bought a car within the last 5 years

tower912

California is forward thinking.

That 2035 deadline matches up with what GM has already announced as a target.   So policy matches up with the automotive industry.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

RJax55

Quote from: JWags85 on August 31, 2022, 02:11:44 PM
Come on man, California said no gas powered cars by 2035!  Thats basically tomorrow.  Most people won't even have a chance to buy a new gas powered car if they bought a car within the last 5 years

Huh?

The average length of time an American driver keeps a new vehicle is 6 years.

ATL MU Warrior

Quote from: JWags85 on August 31, 2022, 02:11:44 PM
Come on man, California said no gas powered cars by 2035!  Thats basically tomorrow.  Most people won't even have a chance to buy a new gas powered car if they bought a car within the last 5 years
I'd like to see any source that indicates a majority of new car buyers hang on to those cars for 18 years.

JWags85

Quote from: RJax55 on August 31, 2022, 02:20:12 PM
Huh?

The average length of time an American driver keeps a new vehicle is 6 years.

Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on August 31, 2022, 02:21:06 PM
I'd like to see any source that indicates a majority of new car buyers hang on to those cars for 18 years.

Wow, I didn't think I would need to make it teal after saying 2035 was "basically tomorrow"  :o

forgetful

Quote from: pacearrow02 on August 31, 2022, 12:04:13 PM
Until we can figure out a cost effective and timely way of recycling EV batteries I'm not convinced we aren't doing more damage to earth with this urgent push towards EVs.  I'm sure there is a way to do it and solution coming down the road but until then, EVs are not exactly earth friendly.

Seriously? EV batteries are already repurposed, reused, etc, after their vehicle use. After they no longer have any use in any application they are recycled.

Currently Tesla recycles 92% of the original materials used in the EV battery.

As more batteries are available for recycling, even better methods will be put into effect.

Not sure where you get this idea that we don't have an effective way to recycle them.

pacearrow02

Quote from: forgetful on August 31, 2022, 02:41:35 PM
Seriously? EV batteries are already repurposed, reused, etc, after their vehicle use. After they no longer have any use in any application they are recycled.

Currently Tesla recycles 92% of the original materials used in the EV battery.

As more batteries are available for recycling, even better methods will be put into effect.

Not sure where you get this idea that we don't have an effective way to recycle them.

Below article from earlier this year says only 5% of EV batteries currently get recycled, so yes I guess I'm serious.

https://www.motorbiscuit.com/ev-battery-recycling-makes-cars-cheaper-helps-solve-microchip-shortage-crisis/

Uncle Rico

Quote from: pacearrow02 on August 31, 2022, 02:51:57 PM
Below article from earlier this year says only 5% of EV batteries currently get recycled, so yes I guess I'm serious.

https://www.motorbiscuit.com/ev-battery-recycling-makes-cars-cheaper-helps-solve-microchip-shortage-crisis/

I'm going to guess you didn't read the article again but saw part of a headline, Generals
Ramsey head thoroughly up his ass.

pacearrow02

Quote from: Uncle Rico on August 31, 2022, 02:54:18 PM
I'm going to guess you didn't read the article again but saw part of a headline, Generals

Haha, you're something Rico.  Hope you've been enjoying your summer!

tower912

Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

rocky_warrior

Quote from: JWags85 on August 31, 2022, 02:38:14 PM
Wow, I didn't think I would need to make it teal after saying 2035 was "basically tomorrow"  :o

You'll be happy to know I fully understood the implied teal.

pacearrow02

Quote from: tower912 on August 31, 2022, 03:17:27 PM
Just keep sciencing.

💯 absolutely!!  Look forward to the day where EVs are both plentiful and truly environmentally friendly

ATL MU Warrior

Quote from: rocky_warrior on August 31, 2022, 03:29:44 PM
You'll be happy to know I fully understood the implied teal.
I totally missed it (obviously)


Uncle Rico

Ramsey head thoroughly up his ass.

Jay Bee

Quote from: Uncle Rico on August 31, 2022, 04:06:22 PM
That's what happens when we ignore climate change for decades

To be fair, didn't hear "climate change" much many decades ago
REJOICE! Eric Dixon has been suspended!!

Uncle Rico

Quote from: Jay Bee on August 31, 2022, 04:16:37 PM
To be fair, didn't hear "climate change" much many decades ago

I'm 46 and have been hearing about it my entire life
Ramsey head thoroughly up his ass.

tower912

I remember the PSA on Saturday mornings with the Native American in horseback staring at pollution  with a tear coming down his face.   

Nixon established the EPA after the Cuyahoga caught fire.

California smog days in the 70's.

Nah, it was just ignored.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

MU82

Quote from: Uncle Rico on August 31, 2022, 04:26:55 PM
I'm 46 and have been hearing about it my entire life

I think JB meant that it used to be called global warming.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

ATL MU Warrior

Miraculously, and I'm sure with no impact at all on inflation, corporate profits at highest level in 70 years.

tower912

#121
 ::)

So, in a few months, if profits return to average, we can have pearl clutching mopes bemoaning the falling profits.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: MU82 on August 31, 2022, 04:49:11 PM
I think JB meant that it used to be called global warming.

Whatever tickles the pickle. 
Ramsey head thoroughly up his ass.

jesmu84

Quote from: JWags85 on August 31, 2022, 02:11:44 PM
Come on man, California said no gas powered cars by 2035!  Thats basically tomorrow.  Most people won't even have a chance to buy a new gas powered car if they bought a car within the last 5 years

Ain't just Cali

jesmu84

Quote from: Jay Bee on August 31, 2022, 04:16:37 PM
To be fair, didn't hear "climate change" much many decades ago

Is that when Shell was burying their findings?