2024 -25 College Football and College Football Playoff Thread

[wadesworld]

Well, I'll admit to not watching or caring much about college football but my guess is they would have been rolled no matter who decided to play in the playoff.

Of course that would be the most likely situation. But that shouldn't matter. They scheduled a projected top 3 SEC team (more than almost any college football team does) in the non-con and won every game they played. What more can they do? 2 teams who didn't win every game got in above them.

Imagine telling George Mason, "We love Cinderella stories and your run has been awesome, but you've made it too far and now we want the blue bloods in the Final Four. So even though you won those previous games and deserve to be where you are, we think Duke is one of the 4 best teams and you aren't so, well, you're going to play in the NIT semifinals instead."

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[The Sultan]

Of course that would be the most likely situation. But that shouldn't matter. They scheduled a projected top 3 SEC team (more than almost any college football team does) in the non-con and won every game they played. What more can they do? 2 teams who didn't win every game got in above them.

Imagine telling George Mason, "We love Cinderella stories and your run has been awesome, but you've made it too far and now we want the blue bloods in the Final Four. So even though you won those previous games and deserve to be where you are, we think Duke is one of the 4 best teams and you aren't so, well, you're going to play in the NIT semifinals instead."

Who cares. Would rather watch Bama v Michigan anyway.

[Pakuni]

Of course that would be the most likely situation. But that shouldn't matter. They scheduled a projected top 3 SEC team (more than almost any college football team does) in the non-con and won every game they played. What more can they do? 2 teams who didn't win every game got in above them.

Imagine telling George Mason, "We love Cinderella stories and your run has been awesome, but you've made it too far and now we want the blue bloods in the Final Four. So even though you won those previous games and deserve to be where you are, we think Duke is one of the 4 best teams and you aren't so, well, you're going to play in the NIT semifinals instead."

Is FSU one of the four best teams?

[wadesworld]

Is FSU one of the four best teams?

They were 1 of the 3 P5 teams with a 0 in their loss column.

[Pakuni]

They were 1 of the 3 P5 teams with a 0 in their loss column.

I'll take that as a "no."

[wadesworld]

I'll take that as a "no."

Are we sure Washington or Michigan are? Or Texas or Bama? Are we sure Georgia or Ohio State aren't?

Seems like we should just go with who earned it by the results on the field over the course of the season. Not some subjectively saying these are your 4 best teams.

Otherwise just have the 4 teams with the most 5 star or top 300 recruits on their rosters play double home and homes with each other and let everyone else enjoy watching.

[Pakuni]

Are we sure Washington or Michigan are? Or Texas or Bama? Are we sure Georgia or Ohio State aren't?

Seems like we should just go with who earned it by the results on the field over the course of the season. Not some subjectively saying these are your 4 best teams.

Otherwise just have the 4 teams with the most 5 star or top 300 recruits on their rosters play double home and homes with each other and let everyone else enjoy watching.

So, Libery should be in the playoff? 13-0, after all

[HutchwasClutch]

So, Libery should be in the playoff? 13-0, after all

Nobody needs this explained how it's completely different, nor does it remotely represent the essence of Wades arguments. 

[Hards Alumni]

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[Hards Alumni]

Are we sure Washington or Michigan are? Or Texas or Bama? Are we sure Georgia or Ohio State aren't?

Seems like we should just go with who earned it by the results on the field over the course of the season. Not some subjectively saying these are your 4 best teams.

Otherwise just have the 4 teams with the most 5 star or top 300 recruits on their rosters play double home and homes with each other and let everyone else enjoy watching.

This post encompasses why I have around zero interest in college football.

[BM1090]

Is FSU one of the four best teams?

No. But Georgia would be favored over all four of the playoff teams. So if we're going to go best four, then go best four. Don't half ass it and penalize one team.

[jesmu84]

Are we sure Washington or Michigan are? Or Texas or Bama? Are we sure Georgia or Ohio State aren't?

Seems like we should just go with who earned it by the results on the field over the course of the season. Not some subjectively saying these are your 4 best teams.

Otherwise just have the 4 teams with the most 5 star or top 300 recruits on their rosters play double home and homes with each other and let everyone else enjoy watching.

I also think we should do that

But that's not the committee's written mandate

[The Sultan]

I think they did go with the four best teams who earned it over the course of the season. Florida State went undefeated sure, but their schedule was trash. I think one loss Texas and Alabama teams had a more impressive season. Not to mention that Washington and Michigan had more impressive schedules as well.

And this isn't really fair to FSU who usually schedules well.  But Florida has been bad, LSU wasn't as good as advertised, and Clemson and the rest of the ACC was mediocre. Losing their quarterback gave the committee a reason to exclude them sure, but I'm not sure they would have gotten the nod anyway.

Bring on the 12-team playoff. It will solve these problems.

[Uncle Rico]

I think they did go with the four best teams who earned it over the course of the season. Florida State went undefeated sure, but their schedule was trash. I think one loss Texas and Alabama teams had a more impressive season. Not to mention that Washington and Michigan had more impressive schedules as well.

And this isn't really fair to FSU who usually schedules well.  But Florida has been bad, LSU wasn't as good as advertised, and Clemson and the rest of the ACC was mediocre. Losing their quarterback gave the committee a reason to exclude them sure, but I'm not sure they would have gotten the nod anyway.

Bring on the 12-team playoff. It will solve these problems.

Was Michigan's schedule impressive?  Penn State crapped themselves against teams with equal or better talent.  Ohio State is a very good team but is beating them that at home that much better?

I don't know.  Undefeated is undefeated.  If Travis is healthy, fsu is clearly one of the top-4.  He isn't, so Alabama making it isn't a big problem for me but we can nitpick everyone's schedule and how they looked playing it.

[ATL MU Warrior]

Is FSU one of the four best teams?

Was Georgia?

[shoothoops]

The committee's criteria literally states that it should consider injury reports and try to project outcomes.

Does the committee criteria literally state that earlier season games don't count if you are Alabama?

Does the committee criteria state that later only later season games matter unless you are Alabama needing a hail mary against a below .500 team?

This is like the scene from "A Few Good Men"' when Barnes is asked to flip to the page that reveals the location of the mess hall.

[The Sultan]

Does the committee criteria literally state that earlier season games don't count if you are Alabama?

Does the committee criteria state that later only later season games matter unless you are Alabama needing a hail mary against a below .500 team?

This is like the scene from "A Few Good Men"' when Barnes is asked to flip to the page that reveals the location of the mess hall.

No and no. But what is your point? Alabama had the sixth hardest schedule in the country including victories over Georgia and Ole Miss.

[Pakuni]

Was Georgia?

Probably. They had a far better case for inclusion than FSU.

[Pakuni]

Does the committee criteria literally state that earlier season games don't count if you are Alabama?

Does the committee criteria state that later only later season games matter unless you are Alabama needing a hail mary against a below .500 team?

This is like the scene from "A Few Good Men"' when Barnes is asked to flip to the page that reveals the location of the mess hall.

If I understand your outrage correctly, you're very mad that the playoff committee faithfully followed the criteria that's been in place for a decade.
You should take it up with them.

[shoothoops]

If I understand your outrage correctly, you're very mad that the playoff committee faithfully followed the criteria that's been in place for a decade.
You should take it up with them.

???

I am not mad and I have no outrage. My interest level in the topic is calm, matter of fact, and, low.

The point is changing non-written criteria is used all the time. Criteria is used inconsistently all the time.

Lawyers are way too concerned about precedent.

If a rule is good, keep or add it. If it's not change or abolish it.

[WhiteTrash]

Was Michigan's schedule impressive?  Penn State crapped themselves against teams with equal or better talent.  Ohio State is a very good team but is beating them that at home that much better?

Michigan's schedule being awful (for CFP standards) has been an ongoing story in college football for 2 years. They were exposed by TCU last year and I wouldn't be surprised if they do again this year.

Sultan, Michigan has been given credit for how they win not who they have beat.

[The Sultan]

Michigan's schedule being awful (for CFP standards) has been an ongoing story in college football for 2 years. They were exposed by TCU last year and I wouldn't be surprised if they do again this year.

Sultan, Michigan has been given credit for how they win not who they have beat.

They beat two teams (OSU and PSU) better than anyone FSU beat.

[WhiteTrash]

They beat two teams (OSU and PSU) better than anyone FSU beat.

Perhaps (I'd say LSU > PSU). I have zero problem with Michigan being in the CFP especially over FSU, but I don't think Michigan's schedule is a good point for the argument. 

SOS: Michigan - 44; FSU - 34

[PointWarrior]

So what, they played a crap schedule and missing their star QB.  They deserve what they got.

They were 1 of the 3 P5 teams with a 0 in their loss column.