2024 -25 College Football and College Football Playoff Thread

[Lennys Tap]

Head injuries were created by the woke mob

Woke mob hates sports - keeping score hurts feelings.

[Uncle Rico]

Woke mob hates sports - keeping score hurts feelings.

Make scoop better if that were the case

[lawdog77]

Head injuries were created by the woke mob

That might be funny if it were a head injury that knocked out Hunter

[Uncle Rico]

That might be funny if it were a head injury that knocked out Hunter

Feelings don't care about facts

[WhiteTrash]

Why are Iowa and UCLA in the top 25? It is fair to say that 80 college teams would be undefeated against the teams both schools have played. (Michigan too but they started high based upon last year)

[The Sultan]

Why are Iowa and UCLA in the top 25? It is fair to say that 80 college teams would be undefeated against the teams both schools have played. (Michigan too but they started high based upon last year)

Eh. It will sort itself out.

[MU82]

Haters have already eaten plenty of crow, rest of the seasons is house money IMO.

Generally agree with this ... but in our what-have-you-done-for-me-lately world, the excitement obviously would die down considerably if they finish something like 2-7 or 3-6, which is certainly possible with the schedule ahead. Finishing with 8 or 9 wins would be an amazing accomplishment.

So far, Team Prime is by far the story of the season in college football and one of the great stories in all of sports this year. Incredible program rebuild done with panache, and a fun team that has talked the talk and walked the walk.

[StillAWarrior]

It really is amazing how hyped up people are to watch Colorado football. Twitter is screaming about the UF/Tennessee game running late.

I grew up in Colorado and am intrigued. Fanatics just opened a new sportsbook in Ohio and their new account promotions involve credits for merch at the fanatics site. I very briefly toyed with the idea of getting some Colorado merch -- I grew up there, after all -- and then quickly came to my senses. I've never been a Buffs fan and I'm not going to pretend to be one now...even if I am interested to see how they are doing and did watch the first half of the game Saturday.

[JWags85]

Generally agree with this ... but in our what-have-you-done-for-me-lately world, the excitement obviously would die down considerably if they finish something like 2-7 or 3-6, which is certainly possible with the schedule ahead. Finishing with 8 or 9 wins would be an amazing accomplishment.

So far, Team Prime is by far the story of the season in college football and one of the great stories in all of sports this year. Incredible program rebuild done with panache, and a fun team that has talked the talk and walked the walk.

Yea I don't disagree. I think the buzz falls off, but my point is more at this point, if people go out of their way to hate on CU and Deion, it's haters who have been praying for his downfall since he took the job and started his PR machine.

-Tripled last years win total.  Barring a total collapse, they likely win 6 games for only the second time in 15 years in Boulder.

-Shadeur for labeled a nepo baby and not P5 level and people clutched their pearls when he was named the starter right away over a couple terrible incumbent QBs and he has exceeded anyone's expectations by a mile.

-won in a variety of ways and in both the TCU and CSU games showed tremendous resiliency and fight, which is usually directly a result of coaching.

The definition of a "successful" season certainly changes when you start 3-0 and are top 20.  But if you're building a program, they've literally done everything they needed and more in Year 1 for recruiting and roster appeal for the next few years

I very briefly toyed with the idea of getting some Colorado merch -- I grew up there, after all -- and then quickly came to my senses.

I've long said I think in terms of neutral appeal, CU is top 5, if not top 3 in apparel for major colleges.  The black and gold and the unique mascot/logo is a perfect blend. Their bookstore/apparel stores have so much cool stuff

[dgies9156]

Ya'll are going to hate me for this but Coach Prime is the Al McGuire of today's college football. He's brash to the point of being obnoxious. He is about as arrogant as anyone can be and he does things in very unconventional ways.

Coach Prime has his haters. Many are the college football establishment who are generally fearful of what's he's accomplished to date and what he might accomplish. Go back a generation or so and look at Al. A little over three years after he joins Marquette, he takes a small Midwestern university and starts competing for national championships. Al did it by being brash and by challenging many in the status quo who didn't like the idea of African-American athletes playing in major D1 sports.

Above all, Coach Prime is a promoter. So was Al!

Coach Prime brings back fond memories!!!

[Goose]

dgies

Al always wanted to be the enemy and take the eyes off of his players, Prime has similar style. If anyone does not like his team it is because they hate Prime.

[cheebs09]

I feel like the haters narrative is a little over blown. I've seen most of the coverage being largely positive, at least recently. I know there were some questioning all the transfers and his son being a starter, but not really anymore. Most of the negative publicity is people saying pump the brakes on them being a National Title contender.

I think Deion is Jordan level at finding ways to put a chip on his team's shoulder.

[Uncle Rico]

 

I feel like the haters narrative is a little over blown. I've seen most of the coverage being largely positive, at least recently. I know there were some questioning all the transfers and his son being a starter, but not really anymore. Most of the negative publicity is people saying pump the brakes on them being a National Title contender.

I think Deion is Jordan level at finding ways to put a chip on his team's shoulder.

Ya'll are going to hate me for this but Coach Prime is the Al McGuire of today's college football. He's brash to the point of being obnoxious. He is about as arrogant as anyone can be and he does things in very unconventional ways.

Coach Prime has his haters. Many are the college football establishment who are generally fearful of what's he's accomplished to date and what he might accomplish. Go back a generation or so and look at Al. A little over three years after he joins Marquette, he takes a small Midwestern university and starts competing for national championships. Al did it by being brash and by challenging many in the status quo who didn't like the idea of African-American athletes playing in major D1 sports.

Above all, Coach Prime is a promoter. So was Al!

Coach Prime brings back fond memories!!!

It's an interesting situation developing with him and Colorado.  I think the push back against him and his team has as much to do with the fawning and excessive coverage which creates a lot of jealousy.

He's always been polarizing because of his success and outright confidence.  Speaking his mind alienates people who prefer the staid coaching and athlete archetypes who are vanilla in how they interact with the public and media at large.  Couple that with instant success at a moribund program while traditional winners are stuck in neutral or chasing ghosts and it's easy to see the jealousy.

The buildup will lead to a lot of enjoyment in the losses to come but my hunch is, those enjoyments in his losses will be a lot fewer than people want

[StillAWarrior]

I've long said I think in terms of neutral appeal, CU is top 5, if not top 3 in apparel for major colleges.  The black and gold and the unique mascot/logo is a perfect blend. Their bookstore/apparel stores have so much cool stuff

I don't disagree. And my son absolutely agrees. I just felt like since I come from Colorado but never owned a single item, I'd just be a poser (and a bandwagon fan) if I bought something now.

[MUfan12]

I don't like college football and I could not stand Deion as a player. But I found myself watching Colorado yet again Saturday night.

It's a compelling story, and his kid freaking slings it. The fact it pisses off a lot of people makes me enjoy it more.

[Herman Cain]

dgies

Al always wanted to be the enemy and take the eyes off of his players, Prime has similar style. If anyone does not like his team it is because they hate Prime.

Ya'll are going to hate me for this but Coach Prime is the Al McGuire of today's college football. He's brash to the point of being obnoxious. He is about as arrogant as anyone can be and he does things in very unconventional ways.

Coach Prime has his haters. Many are the college football establishment who are generally fearful of what's he's accomplished to date and what he might accomplish. Go back a generation or so and look at Al. A little over three years after he joins Marquette, he takes a small Midwestern university and starts competing for national championships. Al did it by being brash and by challenging many in the status quo who didn't like the idea of African-American athletes playing in major D1 sports.

Above all, Coach Prime is a promoter. So was Al!

Coach Prime brings back fond memories!!!

I agree with this analysis

[Uncle Rico]

Mel Tucker fired with cause.  You can't lose and masterbate on the phone with someone that isn't your wife.

But if you win, you can bring and protect as many sexual predators to your campus.

Leaders and legends, indeed

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Mel Tucker fired with cause.  You can't lose and masterbate on the phone with someone that isn't your wife.

But if you win, you can bring and protect as many sexual predators to your campus.

Leaders and legends, indeed

I'm not surprised because once this became public knowledge, they were going to do whatever they could to speed this up, but I hope this doesn't bite them in the butt. They make it clear in their statement that they are not firing him for the alleged TIX violation but unless I missed it, don't actually specify what the cause is. I imagine they have plenty even if the alleged TIX violation isn't considered (the USA Today article reported that Tucker had been caught in several lies during the investigation which is usually enough for cause) but I worry that rushing to fire him a month before his TIX hearing could open them up to litigation by Tucker. I don't think it would be hard to argue that pre-emptively terminating him could unfairly bias the TIX hearing. That doesn't even consider the possibility that the TIX hearing could fail to find him responsible which could cause another set of issues.

[Uncle Rico]

I'm not surprised because once this became public knowledge, they were going to do whatever they could to speed this up, but I hope this doesn't bite them in the butt. They make it clear in their statement that they are not firing him for the alleged TIX violation but unless I missed it, don't actually specify what the cause is. I imagine they have plenty even if the alleged TIX violation isn't considered (the USA Today article reported that Tucker had been caught in several lies during the investigation which is usually enough for cause) but I worry that rushing to fire him a month before his TIX hearing could open them up to litigation by Tucker. I don't think it would be hard to argue that pre-emptively terminating him could unfairly bias the TIX hearing. That doesn't even consider the possibility that the TIX hearing could fail to find him responsible which could cause another set of issues.

https://x.com/nicoleauerbach/status/1703866834192146797?s=46&t=QSiaGcOIKZrrpw0ciZkI5Q

[wadesworld]

I'm not surprised because once this became public knowledge, they were going to do whatever they could to speed this up, but I hope this doesn't bite them in the butt. They make it clear in their statement that they are not firing him for the alleged TIX violation but unless I missed it, don't actually specify what the cause is. I imagine they have plenty even if the alleged TIX violation isn't considered (the USA Today article reported that Tucker had been caught in several lies during the investigation which is usually enough for cause) but I worry that rushing to fire him a month before his TIX hearing could open them up to litigation by Tucker. I don't think it would be hard to argue that pre-emptively terminating him could unfairly bias the TIX hearing. That doesn't even consider the possibility that the TIX hearing could fail to find him responsible which could cause another set of issues.

I'm not worried one bit, and I hope it does come back to bite them in the butt.  I hope Tucker is able to bankrupt the entire athletic department.  They would be getting what they deserve.  A worse athletic department than Penn State's ever was.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

I'm not worried one bit, and I hope it does come back to bite them in the butt.  I hope Tucker is able to bankrupt the entire athletic department.  They would be getting what they deserve.  A worse athletic department than Penn State's ever was.

But then Tucker gets rich because he sexually harassed a woman. I'm no fan of the MSU athletic department but from what's been posted publicly, they've handled this case by the book. I'm not a fan of someone making millions because someone mishandled a case where they harmed someone else.

[The Sultan]

But then Tucker gets rich because he sexually harassed a woman. I'm no fan of the MSU athletic department but from what's been posted publicly, they've handled this case by the book. I'm not a fan of someone making millions because someone mishandled a case where they harmed someone else.

Right. If anyone gets rich out of this deal it should be the victims of any sexual harassment at the hands of MSU employees. Not someone who actually did the harassing.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

https://x.com/nicoleauerbach/status/1703866834192146797?s=46&t=QSiaGcOIKZrrpw0ciZkI5Q

That's not the route I would go. That feels like "we're firing you for TIX violation without due process but it's okay because we're calling it something else". I think they'll be okay, but that's more risk than I personally would have felt comfortable with.

[The Sultan]

That's not the route I would go. That feels like "we're firing you for TIX violation without due process but it's okay because we're calling it something else". I think they'll be okay, but that's more risk than I personally would have felt comfortable with.

Actually this is smart. They are keeping it to the known facts and not the harassment investigation. Whether or not it was consensual is no longer an issue. 

[MUBurrow]

Actually this is smart. They are keeping it to the known facts and not the harassment investigation. Whether or not it was consensual is no longer an issue. 

I was going to say - is this designed to plan for the possibility that he is not found to have committed a Title IX violation?  Assuming they have made the decision that they can't possibly keep him (how could they given their recent history), then this makes some sense in that it feels like less of an uphill battle than walking out of the Title IX hearing that found no violation, and then sending this letter.