2024 -25 College Football and College Football Playoff Thread

[MUBurrow]

If they don't get Kiffin, they are inevitably going to be disappointed at whomever they end up with. That is a hard gig with sky high expectations, but you are sandwiched in between Georgia and Alabama. Plus there is all the booster involvement...

I have a hard time believing that Kiffin will see a lot of value shifting from Ole Miss to Auburn.  Its not that much better a gig, and Auburn fans/athletic department are certifiably insane.  Maybe I'm colored by the brief convo directly higher in this thread that he'll slide into the Bama job before too long. 

This has Hugh Freeze written all over it to me.

[Pakuni]

Todd Monken is who Auburn should hire, but probably won't.

[ATL MU Warrior]

Scott Frost is available...

[JWags85]

I have a hard time believing that Kiffin will see a lot of value shifting from Ole Miss to Auburn.  Its not that much better a gig, and Auburn fans/athletic department are certifiably insane.  Maybe I'm colored by the brief convo directly higher in this thread that he'll slide into the Bama job before too long. 

This has Hugh Freeze written all over it to me.

Totally agree.  He's recruiting really well at Ole Miss, expectations are lower to the point that they are thrilled with him, and he can cruise until Bama or something else prestigious opens up.  I think Kiffin at Bama would be fun as hell.  I love him as a coach.

Freeze is interesting.  Scumbag to be sure, but dude can coach.  What he's done at Liberty in short order has been impressive.

Todd Monken is who Auburn should hire, but probably won't.

I think the best hire would have been if they had taken care of this in the offseason and gotten Sonny Dykes.

Outside of that, I think Jeff Traylor from UTSA would be a great hire.  Former Arkansas assistant with Texas recruiting roots.  Sooner or later someone is gonna entice Jamey Chadwell from Coastal Carolina too.

[Uncle Rico]

If they don't get Kiffin, they are inevitably going to be disappointed at whomever they end up with. That is a hard gig with sky high expectations, but you are sandwiched in between Georgia and Alabama. Plus there is all the booster involvement...

You have to be a certain level crazy to take the gig. 

The timing might be right for a new hire.  Saban is 70 and history has taught us diminishing returns follow.  Granted, Saban is built different and he's defied a lot of history while at Alabama.  Still, there might be a crack.

The problem you highlighte is a fully engaged Georgia program and I'll add a revitalized Tennessee program

[MU82]

The videos of that attack by Michigan State players are ugly and eye-opening. Criminal charges are possible.

[Uncle Rico]

The videos of that attack by Michigan State players are ugly and eye-opening. Criminal charges are possible.

At this point, it's ingrained in the Michigan State football culture.  It was there under Dantonio and hasn't gone away.  Their whole identity revolves around beating Michigan. 

[Billy Hoyle]

If they don't get Kiffin, they are inevitably going to be disappointed at whomever they end up with. That is a hard gig with sky high expectations, but you are sandwiched in between Georgia and Alabama. Plus there is all the booster involvement...

Auburn fans will take Freeze over Kiffin.

[MU82]

At this point, it's ingrained in the Michigan State football culture.  It was there under Dantonio and hasn't gone away.  Their whole identity revolves around beating Michigan.

OK, but did they literally have to beat Michigan?

[MUBurrow]

Totally agree.  He's recruiting really well at Ole Miss, expectations are lower to the point that they are thrilled with him, and he can cruise until Bama or something else prestigious opens up.  I think Kiffin at Bama would be fun as hell.  I love him as a coach.

Auburn is paying $15.3 million to fire Harsin, plus is still paying Malzahn's buyout. I suppose all bets are off on Kiffin if they give him that Jimbo Fisher treatment.

[WhiteTrash]

I know the rankings don't mean sh*t now and it will work itself out in the end but where is the logic in the CFP poll?

On one hand the message is, Michigan - your name and the public perception don't mean anything, your SOS is garbage.
On the other hand is, TCU - your SOS don't mean anything, your name and public perception are garbage.

Can't they just pick a standard and stick to it?

Just an observation.

[Uncle Rico]

I know the rankings don't mean sh*t now and it will work itself out in the end but where is the logic in the CFP poll?

On one hand the message is, Michigan - your name and the public perception don't mean anything, your SOS is garbage.
On the other hand is, TCU - your SOS don't mean anything, your name and public perception are garbage.

Can't they just pick a standard and stick to it?

Just an observation.

The chairman went on ESPN and said they're looking for "complete teams" and TCU is 7 because their defense isn't good

[JWags85]

The chairman went on ESPN and said they're looking for "complete teams" and TCU is 7 because their defense isn't good

Yep, TCU is very good but they gave up 34 to a 4-4 SMU, 31 to a mediocre 3-5 WVU team.  Their D is porous.

I know the rankings don't mean sh*t now and it will work itself out in the end but where is the logic in the CFP poll?

On one hand the message is, Michigan - your name and the public perception don't mean anything, your SOS is garbage.
On the other hand is, TCU - your SOS don't mean anything, your name and public perception are garbage.

Can't they just pick a standard and stick to it?

Just an observation.

TCU has plenty of name and public perception.  They upgraded conferences twice in less than 8 years due to their success and cache.  They finished in the top 10 7 times in the last 15 years.  They aren't Rice.

They've had a nice year but their best wins won't age well.  OK St was a fantastic win until they got curbstomped by Kansas St and are clinging to the top 20.  Oklahoma win looks pretty meh.  The Kansas win was nice but is aging like milk.  Kansas St is their best win right now and they lost to f-INT Tulane and snuck by meh Iowa St and Texas Tech teams.  And TCU isn't super convincing in the wins.

Meanwhile Michigan has THROTTLED teams.  No margins under 2 TDs except for a weird Maryland game.  Closest other margin was 13 against Iowa and that was a 3 score game going into the 4th.

And their SOS is 30th, TCU is 17th.  It's not wildly different.

[Uncle Rico]

Yep, TCU is very good but they gave up 34 to a 4-4 SMU, 31 to a mediocre 3-5 WVU team.  Their D is porous.

TCU has plenty of name and public perception.  They upgraded conferences twice in less than 8 years due to their success and cache.  They finished in the top 10 7 times in the last 15 years.  They aren't Rice.

They've had a nice year but their best wins won't age well.  OK St was a fantastic win until they got curbstomped by Kansas St and are clinging to the top 20.  Oklahoma win looks pretty meh.  The Kansas win was nice but is aging like milk.  Kansas St is their best win right now and they lost to f-INT Tulane and snuck by meh Iowa St and Texas Tech teams.  And TCU isn't super convincing in the wins.

Meanwhile Michigan has THROTTLED teams.  No margins under 2 TDs except for a weird Maryland game.  Closest other margin was 13 against Iowa and that was a 3 score game going into the 4th.

And their SOS is 30th, TCU is 17th.  It's not wildly different.

If TCU wins out, they will have earned a spot.  Ohio/Michigan loser is out.  The SEC is poised to cannibalize itself.  There's a clear path for TCU and that's to keep winning.

I watched the TCU-OSU game and TCU deserves credit for finding a way to win.  OSU went into a shell for some reason the final 10 minutes or so.  Never felt like TCU should have won that game but they did and that's all that matters.  Kind of shows how random things can be in the sport

[WhiteTrash]

For the record,  I'm not arguing TCU over Michigan just the lack of consistency.

Now, TCU over Alabama? TCU has 2 better wins than Bama has and zero losses.

In the end it all works out. I'm not worked up over the CFP.

[Uncle Rico]

Games across the Midwest today will be something else

[PGsHeroes32]

If Pj Fleck isnt going to find a master tactician to pull the strings.

Hes gotta go.

Cornball terminology and being likeable to recruits can only go so far.

Would be absolutely brutal to be a gopher fan have hopes every year based off his hype only to watch the guy game plan and in game coach.

[MU82]

So I guess Northwestern fans no longer have to worry about an NFL team stealing Fitz from them.

[Uncle Rico]

Mo Ibrahim just took the Gophers 67 yards on 7 carries for a TD.  Just stole Nebraska's manhood

[PGsHeroes32]

Mo Ibrahim just took the Gophers 67 yards on 7 carries for a TD.  Just stole Nebraska's manhood

Unfortuantely for Minny, Fleck has no manhood and punted when Mo was screaming at him to go for it and end the game.

Now Nebraska driving with a chance to tie.

Since its Nebraska it probably ends up moot. But its been Flecks MO his whole tenure. Play not to lose instead of win.

Think people around here are getting real sick of his act.

[PGsHeroes32]

Unfortuantely for Minny, Fleck has no manhood and punted when Mo was screaming at him to go for it and end the game.

Now Nebraska driving with a chance to tie.

Since its Nebraska it probably ends up moot. But its been Flecks MO his whole tenure. Play not to lose instead of win.

Think people around here are getting real sick of his act.

WR drops its.

log jam at 3-3 in the west with damn Illinois close to winning it, nuts.

[MU82]

Georgia impressively taking Tennessee behind the woodshed ... even if Kirby Smart mismanaged the clock at the end of the half.

[CreightonWarrior]

Not a great day to be a Tennessee offensive lineman.

[MU82]

LSU-Bama: Great 4th quarter, great finish, gutsy call by the guy who quit on ND.

[Billy Hoyle]

LSU-Bama: Great 4th quarter, great finish, gutsy call by the guy who quit on ND.

Obsessed with Kelly too, grampa? Sorry he left your beloved Irish for a better job and more money.

Liberty goes into Arkansas and beats the Razorbacks as a 14.5 point dog. A nice booster for Huge Freeze's Auburn candidacy.n