2022 British Open Championship Thread

[MuggsyB]

Are you NateDogg?

Who?  No idea who that is.

[The Sultan]

You're defensive because you know damn well your comments are absurd. 

You are really touchy. Next time I'll send out a trigger warning.

[JWags85]

You're defensive because you know damn well your comments are absurd.

Muggs my man, you need to chill.  Open a nice Shiraz in honor Cam Smith, and to nod to the Open, pair it with a nice breast of Atlantic Puffin.

[cheebs09]

I think the idea a shotgun would have guys finishing on separate ends of the course is pretty ridiculous. You could have the top 4 guys tee off on 1 and the next 4 start on 2.

I don't think it's ideal from a competitive standpoint, but could see why TV would go for it.

[Goose]

If I were the PGA would have less guys make the cut, cut down another 12 for Sunday and give guaranteed money to guys who miss the cut. Having 36 guys on Sunday is more than enough for TV and you would not have guys going thru the motions. In addition, I think all governing bodies, aside from LIV, should make immediate changes to equipment and the ball. The LIV guys would struggle mightily in the majors under those conditions.

[🏀]

If I were the PGA would have less guys make the cut, cut down another 12 for Sunday and give guaranteed money to guys who miss the cut. Having 36 guys on Sunday is more than enough for TV and you would not have guys going thru the motions. In addition, I think all governing bodies, aside from LIV, should make immediate changes to equipment and the ball. The LIV guys would struggle mightily in the majors under those conditions.

Goose

Love your suggestions.

[The Sultan]

If I were the PGA would have less guys make the cut, cut down another 12 for Sunday and give guaranteed money to guys who miss the cut. Having 36 guys on Sunday is more than enough for TV and you would not have guys going thru the motions. In addition, I think all governing bodies, aside from LIV, should make immediate changes to equipment and the ball. The LIV guys would struggle mightily in the majors under those conditions.

I think these make a ton of sense. Probably better than a shotgun start. 🤪🤪🤪

[Uncle Rico]

If I were the PGA would have less guys make the cut, cut down another 12 for Sunday and give guaranteed money to guys who miss the cut. Having 36 guys on Sunday is more than enough for TV and you would not have guys going thru the motions. In addition, I think all governing bodies, aside from LIV, should make immediate changes to equipment and the ball. The LIV guys would struggle mightily in the majors under those conditions.

I like it.  However, if there's one thing that could turn the public back to the side of FIGJAM, it's him battling the USGA and R & A.

Augusta, on the other hand, I see a day in the near future where they have a tournament ball

[jesmu84]

Shotgun start, IMO, would make for more players under more pressure/tension. Imagine 4-5-6 guys on the lead or 1/2 strokes away. Everyone is playing #18 at the same time. No one gets a pass knowing they can make double bogey (or whatever) and still retain the lead.

[Goose]

Retire

You heard here first. I have little faith in USGA or PGA, but I think the R&A plays for keeps. I am hoping the R&A takes the LIV guys out to the woodshed. I love the history of golf and we saw a lot this year. From the history at Brookline to St. Andrews it was a great year for folks that love the game. Every time I hear the Hogan trip to The Open Championship it reminds me of why I love golf.

Truth be told, I love golf a helluva of lot more than MU basketball and that is saying a lot. I watched the Arnie video from his last visit to St. Andrews and it makes me tear up every time.

[Herman Cain]

I think the idea a shotgun would have guys finishing on separate ends of the course is pretty ridiculous. You could have the top 4 guys tee off on 1 and the next 4 start on 2.

I don't think it's ideal from a competitive standpoint, but could see why TV would go for it.

I watched the LIV Oregon. The way the shot gun work is similar to how you describe. After the first day they reordered with the leaders going off 1 the next group off 2 etc.

Shotgun start, IMO, would make for more players under more pressure/tension. Imagine 4-5-6 guys on the lead or 1/2 strokes away. Everyone is playing #18 at the same time. No one gets a pass knowing they can make double bogey (or whatever) and still retain the lead.

This aspect of things came into play on the team competition, as there were several groups in the running for the 3 time prizes. They were all playing pretty hard to make that bonus. A guy made a put on the  18th hole to win something for his team. 

[Goose]

jesmu

That is how the game is played today. Not sure how a shotgun format creates more excitement. The top guys were in the final two groups yesterday. The shotgun format is geared to entice younger fans and is as stupid of an idea as I have heard.

[Uncle Rico]

jesmu

That is how the game is played today. Not sure how a shotgun format creates more excitement. The top guys were in the final two groups yesterday. The shotgun format is geared to entice younger fans and is as stupid of an idea as I have heard.

It's peculiar these sports all try and entice the younger fan while always ignoring what made the sports popular in the first place.

I understand why, but sometimes, you don't have to reinvent the whee completely.

[MuggsyB]

You are really touchy. Next time I'll send out a trigger warning.

I got carried away.   My apologies.

[jesmu84]

jesmu

That is how the game is played today. Not sure how a shotgun format creates more excitement. The top guys were in the final two groups yesterday. The shotgun format is geared to entice younger fans and is as stupid of an idea as I have heard.

Huh?

Usually, the final pairing knows exactly what they need to do on the final hole of a tournament while the rest of the field waits and watches. Because they are the only golfers still playing. Everyone else has finished

With a shotgun, everyone is playing their final hole at the exact same time.

[Goose]

jesmu

How would yesterday's finish been altered with the final four guys playing 18 together? The excitement is when someone forces someone's hand and makes them go for broke. There was an eagle out there and 18 and Rory needed to get one and failed. Having a guy post a number is part of the gamesmanship of tournament golf. I simply do not see how anyone that is a fan of golf would prefer a shotgun format.

[jesmu84]

jesmu

How would yesterday's finish been altered with the final four guys playing 18 together? The excitement is when someone forces someone's hand and makes them go for broke. There was an eagle out there and 18 and Rory needed to get one and failed. Having a guy post a number is part of the gamesmanship of tournament golf. I simply do not see how anyone that is a fan of golf would prefer a shotgun format.

I understand what you are saying. I understand the point you are making.

Do you understand the scenario I was pointing out?

You are correct that it isn't traditional. But it's a similar idea to having the last day of the NFL or MLB or premier league, etc all playing at the same time. It will create drama/tension in a different way. And potentially more as more players would be involved.

I didn't say it was better. That's in the eye of the beholder

[MuggsyB]

If I were the PGA would have less guys make the cut, cut down another 12 for Sunday and give guaranteed money to guys who miss the cut. Having 36 guys on Sunday is more than enough for TV and you would not have guys going thru the motions. In addition, I think all governing bodies, aside from LIV, should make immediate changes to equipment and the ball. The LIV guys would struggle mightily in the majors under those conditions.

Excellent points Goose. 

[MuggsyB]

Is there a reason the Open hasn't been at Turnberry since '09?  Trump connection?

[Uncle Rico]

Is there a reason the Open hasn't been at Turnberry since '09?  Trump connection?

Yup.  Wait until he gets involved with the next LIV event.  The Sh!t storm hasn't truly begun yet.

[MuggsyB]

Yup.  Wait until he gets involved with the next LIV event.  The Sh!t storm hasn't truly begun yet.

I didn't realize that.  Brutal.

[rocket surgeon]

If I were the PGA would have less guys make the cut, cut down another 12 for Sunday and give guaranteed money to guys who miss the cut. Having 36 guys on Sunday is more than enough for TV and you would not have guys going thru the motions. In addition, I think all governing bodies, aside from LIV, should make immediate changes to equipment and the ball. The LIV guys would struggle mightily in the majors under those conditions.

  good stuff goose-not to mention, there is so much golf going on that we don't see.  with fewer guys on saturday and sunday, it would condense the event down to better golf and more live views.  maybe the network could do a split screen or similar to the red zone, go to the "red zone" of golf shots.  they've got to do something because LIV just gained like 6 more pretty big names


drip...drip...drip...

[rocket surgeon]

  cameron smith, henrik stenson, tommy fleetwood, hedeki matsuyama, marc leishman, bubba watson

gowne

who's next?

[MuggsyB]

  cameron smith, henrik stenson, tommy fleetwood, hedeki matsuyama, marc leishman, bubba watson

gowne

who's next?

Terrible.

[🏀]

Terrible.

Why won't they think of the children?