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MuggsyB

I wonder if Wemby could become sort of a Giannis/Durant combo?

Uncle Rico

Quote from: MuggsyB on October 27, 2022, 04:51:39 PM
I wonder if Wemby could become sort of a Giannis/Durant combo?

He reminds me of Diener
Guster is for Lovers

JWags85

Quote from: MuggsyB on October 27, 2022, 04:51:39 PM
I wonder if Wemby could become sort of a Giannis/Durant combo?

He will never be Giannis-like.  His game will never be overpowering and physically outmatching people.  Durant comps are valid given his build and shooting ability for his size.  Giannis is broad and had the frame to put on serious size even when he was a slender 18 year old.  Wemby doesn't have that, just like Holmgren doesnt.

MuggsyB

Quote from: JWags85 on October 27, 2022, 05:39:45 PM
He will never be Giannis-like.  His game will never be overpowering and physically outmatching people.  Durant comps are valid given his build and shooting ability for his size.  Giannis is broad and had the frame to put on serious size even when he was a slender 18 year old.  Wemby doesn't have that, just like Holmgren doesnt.

Giannis was pretty skinny when he came in the league.  I don't think Wemby has that downhill speed but could conceivably get a lot stronger.  I also think he's a much better athlete than Holmgren and far more fluid with the rock.  He's naturally a much better scorer imo.  Now it would be interesting if Wemby and Holmgren were on the same team.  I'd sign up for Wembanyama at 21-22.  He also may be still growing.  Off the subject,  I'll tell you someone who has really impressed me as a young gun:  Scottie Barnes.  What a great draft pick by Toronto. 



MuggsyB

Things could get pretty ugly in Brooklyn.  This is a team with significant problems that go well beyond Ben Simmons.  I'm not sure Nash will make it through this season.

MuggsyB

Huge half for Jimmy B.  20, 4, 4, and 3 thefts with zero turns. 

Jockey

Quote from: MuggsyB on October 27, 2022, 09:20:16 PM
Things could get pretty ugly in Brooklyn.  This is a team with significant problems that go well beyond Ben Simmons.  I'm not sure Nash will make it through this season.

They have no Alpha.

They are a team that could really use a guy like Jae. He would only be the 4th or 5th best player, but they could really use his toughness.

MuggsyB

Quote from: Jockey on October 27, 2022, 10:29:23 PM
They have no Alpha.

They are a team that could really use a guy like Jae. He would only be the 4th or 5th best player, but they could really use his toughness.

Simmons looks lost to me.  Would Phoenix want him?

Jockey


Jockey

Not going way out on a limb here, but Luka will win MVP this year.

Giannis, Luka, and Ja may now be the Top 3 players in the NBA. Of course Jokic may have something to say about that.

forgetful

Quote from: MuggsyB on October 27, 2022, 10:07:29 PM
Huge half for Jimmy B.  20, 4, 4, and 3 thefts with zero turns.

Unfortunately for Jimmy, Steph is just in a different world.

MuggsyB

#638
Quote from: Jockey on October 27, 2022, 11:13:57 PM
Not going way out on a limb here, but Luka will win MVP this year.

Giannis, Luka, and Ja may now be the Top 3 players in the NBA. Of course Jokic may have something to say about that.

Giannis is the best overall player in the association.  When you start comparing Doncic, Morant, and Jokic it gets really tough.  Doncic is ridiculously skilled and enormous for a lead guard. Jokic is tremendously underrated as an athlete.  The guy can do everything and may have the pieces around him this season.  Morant is without question the most electric player we have seen since Dwyane.  The guy has a different gear and has improved his jump shot a lot.  It's really tough but I would probably go:  Giannis, Jokic, Curry, Tatum, Morant, Doncic as my super 6.

The Sultan

Quote from: MuggsyB on October 27, 2022, 09:20:16 PM
Things could get pretty ugly in Brooklyn.  This is a team with significant problems that go well beyond Ben Simmons.  I'm not sure Nash will make it through this season.

Nash should have been let go last year. He's not been very good.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

MUfan12

Quote from: MuggsyB on October 27, 2022, 03:10:22 PM
Lost in Antetokounmpo's dominance, and attacking power game, is that Holiday and Grayson Allen have been utterly brutal on the offensive end shooting the basketball.  33% and 24%??  WTF?  On open shots?  They need to wake up.

It's been three games.

If they get, and stay, relatively healthy this Bucks team is really well-positioned to win a title. Defense has been awesome. Great chemistry and continuity. If they were to add, I'd like someone who can get to the rim, but they're in great shape.

lawdog77

Quote from: MuggsyB on October 27, 2022, 11:49:03 PM
Giannis is the best overall player in the association.  When you start comparing Doncic, Morant, and Jokic it gets really tough.  Doncic is ridiculously skilled and enormous for a lead guard. Jokic is tremendously underrated as an athlete.  The guy can do everything and may have the pieces around him this season.  Morant is without question the most electric player we have seen since Dwyane.  The guy has a different gear and has improved his jump shot a lot.  It's really tough but I would probably go:  Giannis, Jokic, Curry, Tatum, Morant, Doncic as my super 6.
Not to sound xenophobic, but the Top 4 players in the NBA are not from the United States (Giannis-Greece, Doncic-Slovenia, Jokic-Serbia, Morant-Mars)

wadesworld

Quote from: lawdog77 on October 28, 2022, 11:04:12 AM
Not to sound xenophobic, but the Top 4 players in the NBA are not from the United States (Giannis-Greece, Doncic-Slovenia, Jokic-Serbia, Morant-Mars)

Wembenyama - France.

Wait, have to wait 11 months for that.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: lawdog77 on October 28, 2022, 11:04:12 AM
Not to sound xenophobic, but the Top 4 players in the NBA are not from the United States (Giannis-Greece, Doncic-Slovenia, Jokic-Serbia, Morant-Mars)

You can blame Obama for that
Guster is for Lovers

MU82

First, they're stealing our NBA jobs.

Then, they'll all be replacing us.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Billy Hoyle

Quote from: lawdog77 on October 28, 2022, 11:04:12 AM
Not to sound xenophobic, but the Top 4 players in the NBA are not from the United States (Giannis-Greece, Doncic-Slovenia, Jokic-Serbia, Morant-Mars)

I was thinking the same thing about the top players (add Embid to the list at #5, and he's from Cameroon). This was Stern's vision, to make the NBA a truly worldwide league. I don't think the game is better today than it was in the 80s (too many threes and a lack of D), but the skill and overall athleticism are better.
"Kevin thinks 'mother' is half a word." - Mike Deane

wadesworld

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on October 28, 2022, 01:05:11 PM
I was thinking the same thing about the top players (add Embid to the list at #5, and he's from Cameroon). This was Stern's vision, to make the NBA a truly worldwide league. I don't think the game is better today than it was in the 80s (too many threes and a lack of D), but the skill and overall athleticism are better.

Ah yes, spoken from experience.  Remembers watching the game in the 80s, but too young to remember MU as the Warriors.

PGsHeroes32

Lakers are 0-4 against the spread and 0-4 on the year.

Some good value in taking them vs Minny tonight.
Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

The Sultan

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on October 28, 2022, 01:05:11 PM
I was thinking the same thing about the top players (add Embid to the list at #5, and he's from Cameroon). This was Stern's vision, to make the NBA a truly worldwide league. I don't think the game is better today than it was in the 80s (too many threes and a lack of D), but the skill and overall athleticism are better.

Anybody who thinks there is a lack of D now compared to the 1980s didn't watch a lot of basketball in the 1980s.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

rocket surgeon

ben simmons seems to be severely over-rated, not very good or rusty and not a good fit with the nets.  surely not worth the $35 million/year contract
felz Houston ate uncle boozie's hands

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