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Hards Alumni

Davante pushed a guy to the ground... assault

Draymond throws a potentially deadly punch... a fine?

The Sultan

Quote from: Hards Alumni on October 13, 2022, 06:21:26 AM
Davante pushed a guy to the ground... assault

Draymond throws a potentially deadly punch... a fine?

Yeah, I don't quite get how that somehow gets ignored just because it was an NBA practice.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: Hards Alumni on October 13, 2022, 06:21:26 AM
Davante pushed a guy to the ground... assault

Draymond throws a potentially deadly punch... a fine?

Quote from: Sultan Sultanberger on October 13, 2022, 07:21:44 AM
Yeah, I don't quite get how that somehow gets ignored just because it was an NBA practice.

If Poole wants to press charges he can.  Then it would be an assault. He won't press charges
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
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lawdog77

Quote from: TAMU, the Wizard of MU Basketball on October 13, 2022, 07:43:13 AM
If Poole wants to press charges he can.  Then it would be an assault. He won't press charges
The prosecution can still pursue the case even if Poole declines to press charges.

ATL MU Warrior

Quote from: Hards Alumni on October 13, 2022, 06:21:26 AM
Davante pushed a guy to the ground... assault

Draymond throws a potentially deadly punch... a fine?
The victim and their opportunistic tendencies?

Hards Alumni

Quote from: TAMU, the Wizard of MU Basketball on October 13, 2022, 07:43:13 AM
If Poole wants to press charges he can.  Then it would be an assault. He won't press charges

civil vs criminal

MuggsyB

#431
Well, whatever your point of view on this altercation is there seems to be a disconnect to me.  I recall Myles Leonard was suspended for making an anti-semitic remark while playing video games on camera.  The idea that what Green did "happens all the time" is a justification that it's no big deal is frankly ridiculous. 

I'm also hearing a lot about the Jordan/Kerr fight which by the way took place like 25 years ago or something?  I get a professional basketball practice isn't the same as fights in the normal workplace but I simply do not believe that punch was a normal day at the office.  Daryl Morey got more scrutiny from players and many in the NBA for tweeting "Free Hong Kong".  The idea Green won't get any suspension for this is laughable imo. 

WhiteTrash

Quote from: Hards Alumni on October 13, 2022, 08:03:31 AM
civil vs criminal
It would most definitely be criminal. Green would be found guilty (based upon video).

I don't think anything would be gained by criminal prosecution.

Civil litigation would result in Green losing money but mostly the attorneys would win.

Hards Alumni

Quote from: WhiteTrash on October 13, 2022, 08:27:17 AM
It would most definitely be criminal. Green would be found guilty (based upon video).

I don't think anything would be gained by criminal prosecution.

Civil litigation would result in Green losing money but mostly the attorneys would win.

Yeah, that is the point I am making.

Davante has been criminally charged with assault.  Draymond should be as well.

Spotcheck Billy

Bobby Portis once got what, a 9 game suspension for throwing a punch in practice?

Uncle Rico

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TAMU, Knower of Ball

#436
Quote from: lawdog77 on October 13, 2022, 08:01:19 AM
The prosecution can still pursue the case even if Poole declines to press charges.

Of course they can but I can't imagine any prosecutor moving forward on a case between two professional athletes without a willing complainant

Quote from: Hards Alumni on October 13, 2022, 08:41:45 AM
Yeah, that is the point I am making.

Davante has been criminally charged with assault.  Draymond should be as well.

The difference is that Davante's complainant is pressing charges. If Poole was pressing charges, Draymond would be criminally charged as well. I'm not a lawyer but I work with prosecutors in my job regularly. My experience is limited to only a handful of prosecutors but 100% of the ones that I know would never criminally charge assault without a willing complainant. And in most cases, I think that's a good thing. The complainant should have a significant say in how their case is addressed.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
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lawdog77

Quote from: TAMU, the Wizard of MU Basketball on October 13, 2022, 09:10:39 AM
Of course they can but I can't imagine any prosecutor moving forward on a case between two professional athletes without a willing complainant
Well, I read your comment literally, and it sounded like you were saying it would only be assault if Poole pressed charges.
It's California, so who knows.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: lawdog77 on October 13, 2022, 09:14:47 AM
Well, I read your comment literally, and it sounded like you were saying it would only be assault if Poole pressed charges.
It's California, so who knows.

That's fair and ha, you're right. Who knows in Cali?
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
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MUBurrow

Quote from: Hards Alumni on October 13, 2022, 08:41:45 AM
Yeah, that is the point I am making.

Davante has been criminally charged with assault.  Draymond should be as well.

You're probably right by the letter of the law, but how many times has athlete violence against another athlete on or around the playing field been criminally prosecuted?  I think Bertuzzi got charged, but that's the only one that jumps to mind. And honestly its probably for the best. We've just decided that prosecutors are going to take a hands-off approach to sports, and until we have a huge problem with athletes assaulting each other under the cover of competition, we're probably better off not throwing public resources at the issue.

JWags85

Quote from: TAMU, the Wizard of MU Basketball on October 13, 2022, 09:10:39 AM
Of course they can but I can't imagine any prosecutor moving forward on a case between two professional athletes without a willing complainant

The difference is that Davante's complainant is pressing charges. If Poole was pressing charges, Draymond would be criminally charged as well. I'm not a lawyer but I work with prosecutors in my job regularly. My experience is limited to only a handful of prosecutors but 100% of the ones that I know would never criminally charge assault without a willing complainant. And in most cases, I think that's a good thing. The complainant should have a significant say in how their case is addressed.

I also believe the criminal charges in the Davante case is a prelude to a civil settlement, more than "I want to see this man in jail".  Poole isn't seeking financial damages so there is little gained.

MuggsyB

There's been a few reports that Golden State didn't suspend Green because they didn't want him to miss the ring ceremony.  How thoughtful of the organization.  I wonder what would have happened if he punched Curry?

MuggsyB

Poole is reportedly getting a 4yr/140m contract. 

MU82

Quote from: MuggsyB on October 15, 2022, 11:14:52 AM
Poole is reportedly getting a 4yr/140m contract.

Can buy a lot of concealer for $140 million.
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MuggsyB

Quote from: MU82 on October 15, 2022, 11:32:36 AM
Can buy a lot of concealer for $140 million.

I would have simply said "congratulations MU82" if you were about to sign that contract.  Even if you were talking little people smack. 

4everwarriors

How cum Woj didant recruit Poole, hey?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

wadesworld

Quote from: 4everwarriors on October 15, 2022, 11:41:53 AM
How cum Woj didant recruit Poole, hey?

Appears Marquette offered.

tower912

Quote from: MuggsyB on October 15, 2022, 11:14:52 AM
Poole is reportedly getting a 4yr/140m contract.
Great.  A nice reward for hitting Green's fist with his face.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

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4everwarriors

Quote from: wadesworld on October 15, 2022, 11:50:22 AM
Appears Marquette offered.
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Smart move on Poole's part ta play four UM rather than Limp Dick, hey?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

wadesworld

Quote from: 4everwarriors on October 15, 2022, 12:09:39 PM
Smart move on Poole's part ta play four UM rather than Limp Dick, hey?

Totally different than what you claimed.

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