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MuggsyB

They're estimating it's 30K years old.  And completely in tact.  Should we bring back the Woolly Mammoth? 

tower912

Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

forgetful

Already well underway.

https://reviverestore.org/projects/woolly-mammoth/

They've raised over $60M for this project as of March.

MuggsyB

Quote from: forgetful on June 28, 2022, 08:47:52 PM
Already well underway.

https://reviverestore.org/projects/woolly-mammoth/

They've raised over $60M for this project as of March.

Yes.  This is a very serious consideration.

Herman Cain

Quote from: MuggsyB on June 28, 2022, 08:23:37 PM
They're estimating it's 30K years old.  And completely in tact.  Should we bring back the Woolly Mammoth?
Absolutely we should . The technology is there
"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
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real chili 83

Ancient scrolls indicate they pair well with a Napa Cab.

real chili 83


forgetful

Quote from: real chili 83 on June 28, 2022, 09:08:08 PM
Ancient scrolls indicate they pair well with a Napa Cab.

I heard they taste a lot like manatee.

Just messin' with you muggsy.

ZiggysFryBoy


MuggsyB

I'm a fan of Woolly Mammoth's and feel strongly they should not be disparaged or mocked.

forgetful

Quote from: MuggsyB on June 28, 2022, 10:31:25 PM
I'm a fan of Woolly Mammoth's and feel strongly they should not be disparaged or mocked.

What about bringing them back to farm them for meat?

MU Fan in Connecticut

Quote from: MuggsyB on June 28, 2022, 08:23:37 PM
They're estimating it's 30K years old.  And completely in tact.  Should we bring back the Woolly Mammoth?

Josh Gates Expedition Unknown had a 2 part episode about this  They needs to find enough usable DNA to do.  They've found several mammoth in Siberia and a South Korean lab was slowly collecting anything usable.

lawdog77

Quote from: real chili 83 on June 28, 2022, 09:08:08 PM
Ancient scrolls indicate they pair well with a Napa Cab.
Mummified is a cooking technique very similar to todays confit.

CTWarrior

Quote from: Herman Cain on June 28, 2022, 08:55:56 PM
Absolutely we should . The technology is there
Ian Malcolm : Yeah, yeah, but your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could that they didn't stop to think if they should.
Calvin:  I'm a genius.  But I'm a misunderstood genius. 
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Calvin:  Nobody thinks I'm a genius.

The Sultan

I think it would be cool as hell.

But I wonder...toward what end? Are we going to clone enough of these to bring it back as a viable species? Because I don't think that's possible given the world is a lot hotter then when they last roamed it. (And current research it was likely climate more than human hunting that killed them off.)

Are we just going to do this a couple of times for research purposes? Because remember this would be a living being that would spend its entire life in captivity.  Which is fine...to a point.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

MU Fan in Connecticut

Quote from: User Name #251 on June 29, 2022, 07:51:39 AM
I think it would be cool as hell.

But I wonder...toward what end? Are we going to clone enough of these to bring it back as a viable species? Because I don't think that's possible given the world is a lot hotter then when they last roamed it. (And current research it was likely climate more than human hunting that killed them off.)

Are we just going to do this a couple of times for research purposes? Because remember this would be a living being that would spend its entire life in captivity.  Which is fine...to a point.

There is a Russian scientist who wants to clone mammoths and release them in Siberia.  Something about roaming the tundra again will do something to return the landscape to the past and it will help cool the climate. 
Another story from the Atlantic like 4-5 years ago.

Jockey

Quote from: MuggsyB on June 28, 2022, 08:23:37 PM
They're estimating it's 30K years old.  And completely in tact.  Should we bring back the Woolly Mammoth?

An obvious hoax. The Earth is only 6500 years old.

MUBurrow

Quote from: User Name #251 on June 29, 2022, 07:51:39 AM
I think it would be cool as hell.

But I wonder...toward what end? Are we going to clone enough of these to bring it back as a viable species? Because I don't think that's possible given the world is a lot hotter then when they last roamed it. (And current research it was likely climate more than human hunting that killed them off.)

Are we just going to do this a couple of times for research purposes? Because remember this would be a living being that would spend its entire life in captivity.  Which is fine...to a point.

Yup, this is 100% my thinking as well.  And not to go all PETA, but the wooly's closest living relative (and the animal that would give birth to the first ones) is the asian elephant, which is one of the most social creatures on Earth.  Presumably we'd see a lot of social similarities in mammoths, so if we're going to bring them back, we'd better do right by them.

forgetful

Quote from: MU Fan in Connecticut on June 29, 2022, 08:00:17 AM
There is a Russian scientist who wants to clone mammoths and release them in Siberia.  Something about roaming the tundra again will do something to return the landscape to the past and it will help cool the climate. 
Another story from the Atlantic like 4-5 years ago.

This is the plan by American scientists also. Release them in tundra in Siberia and northern Canada, to actually help with climate change.

From what I've heard from some of the people involved in these projects, they believe they will have enough viable DNA to succeed. But there are a lot of question marks.

JWags85

Quote from: User Name #251 on June 29, 2022, 07:51:39 AM
I think it would be cool as hell.

But I wonder...toward what end? Are we going to clone enough of these to bring it back as a viable species? Because I don't think that's possible given the world is a lot hotter then when they last roamed it. (And current research it was likely climate more than human hunting that killed them off.)

Are we just going to do this a couple of times for research purposes? Because remember this would be a living being that would spend its entire life in captivity.  Which is fine...to a point.

Id caveat viability with a few things. 

1) They wouldn't have to clone thousands.  Populations have been saved with relatively small numbers.  I mean, American Bisons were down to 500 living before they were brought back, and that was a far less controlled conservation than this would be.

2) Unlike many species that went extinct, there is plenty of habitat for them.  Whether Siberia or Canada or even far northern US, its not somewhere that is going to have a ton of human competition.  Though it was colder, its not like their habitat was some desolate snowy wasteland.

I agree, not sure what the outcome is.  Maybe tourism?  Maybe the triumph of genetics/science?

MuggsyB

Quote from: JWags85 on June 29, 2022, 10:00:26 AM
Id caveat viability with a few things. 

1) They wouldn't have to clone thousands.  Populations have been saved with relatively small numbers.  I mean, American Bisons were down to 500 living before they were brought back, and that was a far less controlled conservation than this would be.

2) Unlike many species that went extinct, there is plenty of habitat for them.  Whether Siberia or Canada or even far northern US, its not somewhere that is going to have a ton of human competition.  Though it was colder, its not like their habitat was some desolate snowy wasteland.

I agree, not sure what the outcome is.  Maybe tourism?  Maybe the triumph of genetics/science?

There are scientists that believe they could restore the tundra.  And beyond that they were very social animals and family oriented. 

MU Fan in Connecticut

Quote from: MuggsyB on June 29, 2022, 10:57:11 AM
There are scientists that believe they could restore the tundra.  And beyond that they were very social animals and family oriented.

They should clone a sabertooth tiger and a giant sloth that does funny voices too.

cheebs09

Quote from: MuggsyB on June 29, 2022, 10:57:11 AM
There are scientists that believe they could restore the tundra.

Maybe that would mean the Packers will get back to having a Home Field Advantage in the playoffs.

JWags85

Quote from: cheebs09 on June 29, 2022, 11:51:33 AM
Maybe that would mean the Packers will get back to having a Home Field Advantage in the playoffs.

Is "mammoth weather" the same as "Bear weather"?  Might convince Ol Virginia to hang on for another decade

Hards Alumni

Quote from: real chili 83 on June 28, 2022, 09:08:08 PM
Ancient scrolls indicate they pair well with a Napa Cab.

Cabbage or Cabernet?

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