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tower912

I agree with that.   Green Bay's incredibly young roster came.together and made a heckuva run led by a first year starting QB. The 4th quarter last night was excruciating.   For 3 quarters, both the offense and the defense were on the verge of a second consecutive huge upset.   Kudos.

In the depths of your morning after despair, ask yourself this.... how many teams have a brighter future 4-5 years than GB?   You have your QB and young receivers.   A running back.  5 picks in the first 3 rounds this offseason.   Enjoy.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

The Sultan

Quote from: MU82 on January 21, 2024, 07:39:48 AM
Heck of a second half of the season for the Packers. The way last night's game ended sucked for Packer backers, but fans of lots of teams are jealous of your future.

Y'all have a really good - maybe even great - QB, some nice young weapons, and a lot of other pieces necessary to win for a long time. You're well ahead of where you were at this stage of Rodgers' career.


Yeah I don't agree with that. That team had a young core of defenders that would grow into a Super Bowl winning defense (Collins, Hawk, Tramon, Jenkins) and a future defensive MVP and HOFer (Woodson).  This team has a nice DL, but significant issues up the middle at ILB and safety.

And while they are good, these receivers have a lot to do to grow to the level of a Jennings or Jordy.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

NCMUFan

Was able to see the Packers play two extra games no one was expecting.
Would have loved to see them win.
Oh well, next season.

Uncle Rico

Anders freaking Carlson

Knew it when they drafted him.  He sucks.
Guster is for Lovers

HutchwasClutch

Quote from: NCMUFan on January 21, 2024, 08:10:24 AM
Was able to see the Packers play two extra games no one was expecting.
Would have loved to see them win.
Oh well, next season.

They're setup very well- much cap relief to pursue free agents and extra 2nd and 3rd round picks this draft. 

Love has got to keep improving and get a new defensive coordinator top the internal to do list.  It's fool's gold to think defense got fixed after the Panthers game and games that immediately preceded that one.  Barry must go or they're asking for more problems.

HutchwasClutch

Quote from: Uncle Rico on January 21, 2024, 08:19:05 AM
Anders freaking Carlson

Knew it when they drafted him.  He sucks.

Big concern with him. He's almost certainly going to be their kicker next year the way they're talking so they better be right.  Total commitment to him is a big gamble. 

The Sultan

Quote from: HutchwasClutch on January 21, 2024, 08:23:42 AM
Big concern with him. He's almost certainly going to be their kicker next year the way they're talking so they better be right.  Total commitment to him is a big gamble. 

We'll see. IMO they bring in someone to compete with him, and he has a small cap number so cutting him wouldn't be out of the question.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

4everwarriors

"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

tower912

Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

TSmith34, Inc.

Quote from: tower912 on January 21, 2024, 07:55:50 AM
In the depths of your morning after despair, ask yourself this.... how many teams have a brighter future 4-5 years than GB?   You have your QB and young receivers.   A running back.  5 picks in the first 3 rounds this offseason.   Enjoy.
I love Aaron Jones because he is an absolute game changer. When healthy he takes so much pressure off the QB. As we saw this year, he's at that age where he gets nicked up and misses games more frequently, and GB doesn't have a reliable back up. I think they move on from Quadzilla and will need to find someone in the middle rounds of the draft.

Relatively not a big deal assuming Aaron has a few more highly productive years in him and they have higher priorities on defense and probably kicker but if he misses significant time the offense looks really different.
If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.

tower912

Running backs have a short shelf life and teams should plan accordingly.   My point stands.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: tower912 on January 21, 2024, 08:52:13 AM
Running backs have a short shelf life and teams should plan accordingly.   My point stands.

Correct.  Jones is great but the wall is real.  Wouldn't invest heavily in the position early in the draft, though.  Safety and edge have to be priorities 1A, 1B
Guster is for Lovers

rocket surgeon

Quote from: HutchwasClutch on January 21, 2024, 08:23:42 AM
Big concern with him. He's almost certainly going to be their kicker next year the way they're talking so they better be right.  Total commitment to him is a big gamble.

they have to say that-

    6th round pick...for a kicker??

    for his confidence

    the dude does have a strong leg and comes from good lineage


i recall during the preseason, skeptics were keeping track of his performance during practices and it wasn't good at all.  so i'm expecting this guy to come out looking like the 2nd coming of jerry kramer or paul hornung
felz Houston ate uncle boozie's hands

HutchwasClutch

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on January 21, 2024, 08:25:31 AM
We'll see. IMO they bring in someone to compete with him, and he has a small cap number so cutting him wouldn't be out of the question.

I have major doubts they'll bring in any serious competition for him.  They'll have another kicker on the 90 offseason roster, but likely will be just a camp leg. He's Bisaccia's guy and he carries a lot of sway. 

HutchwasClutch

Quote from: rocket surgeon on January 21, 2024, 09:08:22 AM
they have to say that-

    6th round pick...for a kicker??

    for his confidence

    the dude does have a strong leg and comes from good lineage


i recall during the preseason, skeptics were keeping track of his performance during practices and it wasn't good at all.  so i'm expecting this guy to come out looking like the 2nd coming of jerry kramer or paul hornung

See above about Bisaccia. He campaigned to draft him.  He's one of the top paid special teams coaches and they're going to listen to him. 

CreightonWarrior

Quote from: HutchwasClutch on January 21, 2024, 09:15:33 AM
I have major doubts they'll bring in any serious competition for him.  They'll have another kicker on the 90 offseason roster, but likely will be just a camp leg. He's Bisaccia's guy and he carries a lot of sway.
If MLF's quote is true they could bring in stiff competition.

HutchwasClutch

Quote from: Uncle Rico on January 21, 2024, 08:53:25 AM
Correct.  Jones is great but the wall is real.  Wouldn't invest heavily in the position early in the draft, though.  Safety and edge have to be priorities 1A, 1B

I'd put corner after safety. Alexander is perpetually injured and Stokes has almost two full lost seasons to injuries.  Valentine looks like a player.  After that, there's little depth.  Ballentine might be fine. Nixon tackles well but doesn't cover well and shouldn't be counted on again as the primary nickel.  His value is a returner. 

Very thin at one of the most important positions in the game. Need find a couple guys who can play a lot.

HutchwasClutch

#3017
Quote from: CreightonWarrior on January 21, 2024, 09:17:18 AM
If MLF's quote is true they could bring in stiff competition.

Ok, haven't read his comments yet. But I still think they're going to listen to Bisaccia. So unless he's cooled on Carlson too...

Plus LaFleur talks a tough game on many things but doesn't act, see Joe Barry still employed by them.

Jockey

Quote from: CreightonWarrior on January 21, 2024, 09:17:18 AM
If MLF's quote is true they could bring in stiff competition.

Carlson won't be the kicker next year. Book it.

TSmith34, Inc.

Quote from: tower912 on January 21, 2024, 08:52:13 AM
Running backs have a short shelf life and teams should plan accordingly.   My point stands.
Absolutely agree. Just saying they have zero backups at that position, and Jones is 2nd only to Love in importance to offense.
If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: HutchwasClutch on January 21, 2024, 09:23:55 AM
I'd put corner after safety. Alexander is perpetually injured and Stokes has almost two full lost seasons to injuries.  Valentine looks like a player.  After that, there's little depth.  Ballentine might be fine. Nixon tackles well but doesn't cover well and shouldn't be counted on again as the primary nickel.  His value is a returner. 

Very thin at one of the most important positions in the game. Need find a couple guys who can play a lot.

I won't be surprised if 3 of the top 5 picks are in the secondary. 

They need to improve their tackling across the board.  The difference in tackling between them and the Niners was stark
Guster is for Lovers

Herman Cain

Outlook for Packers is promising. #10 on the job learning panned out second half of season. Love his potential for further growth. Also, even though he can run , he is focused on being a pocket passer. I think that will keep him healthy. Sime of these planned run QBs are really getting banged up

Solid young receivers and offensive line , in another year or two both groups could become excellent .

NFC North may end up as toughest divison in league next year .
"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

4everwarriors

Quote from: CreightonWarrior on January 21, 2024, 09:17:18 AM
If MLF's quote is true they could bring in stiff competition.
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Yeah, a couple of young studs, hey?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

Uncle Rico

Quote from: Herman Cain on January 21, 2024, 09:58:10 AM
Outlook for Packers is promising. #10 on the job learning panned out second half of season. Love his potential for further growth. Also, even though he can run , he is focused on being a pocket passer. I think that will keep him healthy. Sime of these planned run QBs are really getting banged up

Solid young receivers and offensive line , in another year or two both groups could become excellent .

NFC North may end up as toughest divison in league next year .

And get rid of the kicker you think is good
Guster is for Lovers

Jockey

Quote from: Uncle Rico on January 21, 2024, 09:52:43 AM
I won't be surprised if 3 of the top 5 picks are in the secondary. 

They need to improve their tackling across the board.  The difference in tackling between them and the Niners was stark


Also 2 picks in the 4th round. Depending on free agency, I think 4 of the 7 could be linebacker and secondary.

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