2025 Green Bay Packers Thread

[Uncle Rico]

For a used jockstrap.

Let me ask some ball knowers

[Jockey]

Do you think the Packers should trade him?

For Fields

[tower912]

For Fields

Or Mullens.  Or Dobbs. Or Zach Wilson.  Maybe Arod wants to come back.   Mac Jones?

Love was healthy all year.  In his first year as a starter.   Continued to improve and put up some excellent numbers.   Like it or not, the number of available upgrades are few.  Get some o-line help and some defensive playmakers.

[Jockey]

Or Mullens.  Or Dobbs. Or Zach Wilson.  Maybe Arod wants to come back.   Mac Jones?

Love was healthy all year.  In his first year as a starter.   Continued to improve and put up some excellent numbers.   Like it or not, the number of available upgrades are few.  Get some o-line help and some defensive playmakers.

Completely agree. At the start of the year, I thought he would be a bust. But I think he will be starting in GB for years to come.

[MU82]

Was traveling all day so missed this game. Looks like Bryce Young had his career day, so thanks to the Packers for that. But the Panthers are still the Panthers, so you're welcome to all Packer backers.

[Herman Cain]

Aaron Rodgers looking to bring talent to Jets
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/39164677/aaron-rodgers-new-york-jets-recruit-davante-adams-2024

[Herman Cain]

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/39179654/packers-get-dude-aaron-jones-back-just

[MU82]

As I said, I didn't see the game, but the Panthers are whining about getting hosed by the refs all day, especially on a couple of key calls at the end.

True, or just a bunch of whiny losers sounding like whiny losers?

[HutchwasClutch]

Was traveling all day so missed this game. Looks like Bryce Young had his career day, so thanks to the Packers for that. But the Panthers are still the Panthers, so you're welcome to all Packer backers.

I didn't see one play either, but thank you that your Panthers drove either another or maybe the final nail in the coffin of Joe Barry's awful tenure as our d-coordinator.  Not trying to sound like an a-hole but your Panthers offensive struggles are well documented so a bright spot yesterday for them I am very pleased with. 

[The Sultan]

As I said, I didn't see the game, but the Panthers are whining about getting hosed by the refs all day, especially on a couple of key calls at the end.

True, or just a bunch of whiny losers sounding like whiny losers?

Couple marginal calls. No more than usual.

[MU82]

I didn't see one play either, but thank you that your Panthers drove either another or maybe the final nail in the coffin of Joe Barry's awful tenure as our d-coordinator.  Not trying to sound like an a-hole but your Panthers offensive struggles are well documented so a bright spot yesterday for them I am very pleased with.

Calling the Panthers' offense "struggling" is not an insult to me or even them. It's just a fact!

I'm sure they're glad to help you get a new DC.

Couple marginal calls. No more than usual.

You know me ... I don't think refs calls decide outcomes 99.99% of the time. I mean, how about don't fall behind by 2 touchdowns and have to go into desperation mode?

Just saying that folks here are talking about bad calls. Since writing that first email, I watched a couple of key plays on replay. The catch on 3rd-and-4 on the winning drive ... looked like a possible blown call but not sure how reviews could overturn call on the field. The spike at the end ... maybe there was a second left and maybe not, maybe the Packers held Thielen to prevent him from handing the ball to the umpire a second quicker but that happens all the time.

[The Sultan]

I mean it's the Carolina Panthers. They have like five fans. Who really cares.

[MU82]

I mean it's the Carolina Panthers. They have like five fans. Who really cares.

As 20% of the fanbase, I do! (Actually, even I don't really care that much these days.)

[Not all scoop users are created equal apparently]

Normal calls for a game predominantly attended by packer fans.

Dez caught it.

[#UnleashSean]

maybe the Packers held Thielen to prevent him from handing the ball to the umpire a second quicker but that happens all the time.

This is why I want the clock to stop until the ball is set on first downs with 2 minutes left.

This kind of crap happens all the time. A game should not be won or lost because dudes are on the ground holding the ball, or the refs take a second to long to set the ball.

[CreightonWarrior]

What a sad shell of himself Jaire has become.

[Herman Cain]

What a sad shell of himself Jaire has become.

https://www.foxnews.com/sports/packers-suspend-jaire-alexander-coin-toss-debacle

[Hards Alumni]

What a sad shell of himself Jaire has become.

I mean, Rasul, DeVondre, and now Jaire have all had problems with the coaches this year.

Should tell you plenty.

[HutchwasClutch]

I mean, Rasul, DeVondre, and now Jaire have all had problems with the coaches this year.

Should tell you plenty.

Every team has its loose cannons when you're carrying over 60 guys between the 53 and practice squad.  But I agree it may well be something bigger than just that going on with the Packers.  If LaFleur had a strong handle over the locker room, I don't think Alexander pulls what he did. 

[The Sultan]

Which is weird because he has the reputation of actually being very good in the locker room. The fact that all of these conflicts are with members of the defense, and his failure to deal with that on a coaching level last year, is his biggest issue IMO. Continuously playing this passive style and getting roasted both on the field and in the media can't feel great as a player.

I can't see anyway that Joe Barry is back next year.  I wouldn't mind taking a look at Al Harris down in Dallas even though he hasn't been coaching for a long time. Their backfield has been sensational with him as their DB coach and that Quinn type of defense is I think more what the Packers should be playing anyway.

And this is what I don't understand about the Barry hire. The job was originally offered to Jim Leonhard, who clearly comes from the Rex Ryan philosophy, yet Barry's is completely different. It felt like the organization wasn't on the same page regarding what they wanted on the defensive side of the ball and this type of chaos is what resulted.

[Spotcheck Billy]

https://twitter.com/IKE_Packers/status/1740131390501355843?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1740131390501355843%7Ctwgr%5E18df20fabc32f416fb45554763b61dc1b70e1df7%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.jsonline.com%2Fstory%2Fsports%2Fnfl%2Fpackers%2F2023%2F12%2F27%2Fgreen-bay-packers-suspend-jaire-alexander-pat-mcafee-show-jj-watt-aj-hawk-nfl-world-react%2F72041118007%2F

[Hards Alumni]

Which is weird because he has the reputation of actually being very good in the locker room. The fact that all of these conflicts are with members of the defense, and his failure to deal with that on a coaching level last year, is his biggest issue IMO. Continuously playing this passive style and getting roasted both on the field and in the media can't feel great as a player.

I can't see anyway that Joe Barry is back next year.  I wouldn't mind taking a look at Al Harris down in Dallas even though he hasn't been coaching for a long time. Their backfield has been sensational with him as their DB coach and that Quinn type of defense is I think more what the Packers should be playing anyway.

And this is what I don't understand about the Barry hire. The job was originally offered to Jim Leonhard, who clearly comes from the Rex Ryan philosophy, yet Barry's is completely different. It felt like the organization wasn't on the same page regarding what they wanted on the defensive side of the ball and this type of chaos is what resulted.

Not only does it not feel good, it will end up affecting them financially.  Two Pro Bowl players have looked pretty bad because the scheme is... outdated and also terrible.

Barry should have never been hired after he helped coach a team that went 0-16.  I screamed about it when they hired him.  Barry's results speak for themselves, and now he has unruly players.

I GET not firing him, but if there isn't accountability for for performance from staff... it's hard to punish players and look like a serious front office.

[Jockey]

Not only does it not feel good, it will end up affecting them financially.  Two Pro Bowl players have looked pretty bad because the scheme is... outdated and also terrible.

Barry should have never been hired after he helped coach a team that went 0-16.  I screamed about it when they hired him.  Barry's results speak for themselves, and now he has unruly players.

I GET not firing him, but if there isn't accountability for for performance from staff... it's hard to punish players and look like a serious front office.

What do you get? Defensive players are in rebellion and you don't understand why he should be fired..., yesterday?

As I said earlier, MLF is a great OC as a head coach. He is not a CEO.

[The Sultan]

I think he means he gets why MLF shouldn't be fired. And I don't think he should.

[Hards Alumni]

What do you get? Defensive players are in rebellion and you don't understand why he should be fired..., yesterday?

As I said earlier, MLF is a great OC as a head coach. He is not a CEO.

Joe Barry should have been fired into the sun last year.  They're not firing him for the rest of year because the scheme would be the same and no one on the defensive side will likely be back next year.  Also, I don't disagree with you.  I think NOT firing Joe Barry sends a bad message to the players and the fans.

MLF is in charge of his coordinators, that isn't a Mark Murphy or Brian Gutekunst decision.  It's Matt's.  He needs to be smarter in the future because he isn't looking like a head coach or leader right now.