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BM1090


Herman Cain

"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

Herman Cain

"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst


Herman Cain

"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

Uncle Rico

Guster is for Lovers

HutchwasClutch

Quote from: Herman Cain on December 16, 2022, 10:03:08 PM
Defense needs to step up for Packers to have a chance to make playoffs

https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2022/12/16/packers-defense-must-step-up-to-challenge-down-the-stretch-of-2022/

That ship has long since sailed.  Second year in a row a totally in over his head, incompetent coordinator has ruined their season.  Terrible reflection of LaFleur, Gutekunst, and Murphy they hired disasters Drayton and Barry.  Both had no business being hired for the jobs they failed miserably in.

The Sultan

I am increasingly convinced the problem is the GM and not the coaching staff.  Bisaccia is supposed to be one of the better special teams coaches out there, and their special teams has been no better this year.  And last year the defense wasn't great...but wasn't awful...and certainly not the reason they were knocked out of the playoffs. (To be clear, I think Barry needs to be replaced.)

There just enough talent throughout the roster. Sure they hit on picks here and there, but the middle of the draft is where you have to consistently find talent to fill out your special teams and that steps up when others are injured. And it just isn't happening.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Hards Alumni

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on December 18, 2022, 08:59:52 AM
I am increasingly convinced the problem is the GM and not the coaching staff.  Bisaccia is supposed to be one of the better special teams coaches out there, and their special teams has been no better this year.  And last year the defense wasn't great...but wasn't awful...and certainly not the reason they were knocked out of the playoffs. (To be clear, I think Barry needs to be replaced.)

There just enough talent throughout the roster. Sure they hit on picks here and there, but the middle of the draft is where you have to consistently find talent to fill out your special teams and that steps up when others are injured. And it just isn't happening.

Personally, I think there is a major disconnect between the Murphy, Gute, and LaFleur.  The defense is loaded with great talent that is going to waste because of defensive scheme.  Barry should be canned without a doubt.  But MLF seem to have zero ability to evaluate talent.  He doesn't have the players to run the system he wants, but continues to run the system despite not having the talent required for it.  For the first time in a long time I feel like the Packers aren't drafting smart players.  They have a ton of athletes, but none that fit what the schemes are trying to accomplish. 

Gute seems to change his draft strategy every year.  This year he seemed to only care about RAS scores.  Either way, you're exactly right, the mid rounds just feels like he is throwing darts randomly and hoping to get a player that works out.  And they're not.  He should trade every 3rd rounder considering the value he's been getting.

Anyway, I just don't get the overall team strategy... and I'm not sure they even have one.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: Hards Alumni on December 18, 2022, 09:41:49 AM
Personally, I think there is a major disconnect between the Murphy, Gute, and LaFleur.  The defense is loaded with great talent that is going to waste because of defensive scheme.  Barry should be canned without a doubt.  But MLF seem to have zero ability to evaluate talent.  He doesn't have the players to run the system he wants, but continues to run the system despite not having the talent required for it.  For the first time in a long time I feel like the Packers aren't drafting smart players.  They have a ton of athletes, but none that fit what the schemes are trying to accomplish. 

Gute seems to change his draft strategy every year.  This year he seemed to only care about RAS scores.  Either way, you're exactly right, the mid rounds just feels like he is throwing darts randomly and hoping to get a player that works out.  And they're not.  He should trade every 3rd rounder considering the value he's been getting.

Anyway, I just don't get the overall team strategy... and I'm not sure they even have one.

Reading that and I do ponder the notion they should just clean house including the QB

A new President will be interesting max. Will it be an in-house hire or do they go out and get someone with a fresh perspective?  Is it a football guy or a Harlan type?  Change is coming sooner than later
Guster is for Lovers

tower912

Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

4everwarriors

Didant contribute chit anyway, hey?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

The Sultan

Quote from: Uncle Rico on December 18, 2022, 09:46:18 AM
Reading that and I do ponder the notion they should just clean house including the QB

A new President will be interesting max. Will it be an in-house hire or do they go out and get someone with a fresh perspective?  Is it a football guy or a Harlan type?  Change is coming sooner than later


I am about pretty sure the new President will be Ed Policy.

https://www.packers.com/team/front-office-roster/ed-policy

Of course, I could be as wrong about that as I was the next Wisconsin football coach.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

JWags85

ND grad? Welp.  There goes the neighborhood

The Sultan

"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Uncle Rico

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on December 19, 2022, 02:07:26 PM

I am about pretty sure the new President will be Ed Policy.

https://www.packers.com/team/front-office-roster/ed-policy

Of course, I could be as wrong about that as I was the next Wisconsin football coach.

Son of Carmen Policy of 49ers fame.  Has a nice resume
Guster is for Lovers

Herman Cain

"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst


Herman Cain

Good to see to see Packers with a comfortable 3rd quarter lead.Need to keep building on it in 4th
"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

CreightonWarrior


CreightonWarrior

That should've been blown dead well before the fumble.

Herman Cain

"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Basically the Pack needs to win out and get some (reasonable) help to steal the 7 seed right? If they lose to either Miami or Minnesota I think it means that all three of the Hawks, Lions, and Commies need to lose out.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


Herman Cain

Quote from: TAMU, the Wizard of MU Basketball on December 20, 2022, 06:50:03 AM
Basically the Pack needs to win out and get some (reasonable) help to steal the 7 seed right? If they lose to either Miami or Minnesota I think it means that all three of the Hawks, Lions, and Commies need to lose out.
Hope kneeling on the one yard line on end doesn't come back to haunt Packers if a playoff tie breaker came to point differential.....

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/12/20/matt-lafleur-on-kneeldown-at-1-yard-line-theres-a-way-you-handle-winning-in-this-league/
"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

BM1090

Quote from: Herman Cain on December 20, 2022, 07:29:13 AM
Hope kneeling on the one yard line on end doesn't come back to haunt Packers if a playoff tie breaker came to point differential.....

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/12/20/matt-lafleur-on-kneeldown-at-1-yard-line-theres-a-way-you-handle-winning-in-this-league/

It's 10th on the tiebreaker list, so it won't be a problem.

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