2025 Green Bay Packers Thread

[PointWarrior]

2 1st round picks, 2 nd round picks, a few other picks, and 3 players in trade would have helped that talent deficiency. 

But now, all gone. 

I can't wait to see what this team looks like when Gutey's guy Love is under center. The lack of talent on this team is astounding.

[MUeng]

Yep.

aaron Jones is easily one of the best rbs in the league. Some talent exists. Just no wrs unfortunately

[The Sultan]

aaron Jones is easily one of the best rbs in the league. Some talent exists. Just no wrs unfortunately

No OL depth either.

[wadesworld]

aaron Jones is easily one of the best rbs in the league. Some talent exists. Just no wrs unfortunately

So we have good talent at the least important position. You can throw any average guy in at running back and be fine.

2 1st round picks, 2 nd round picks, a few other picks, and 3 players in trade would have helped that talent deficiency. 

But now, all gone.

Not with Gutey drafting.

[MUeng]

No OL depth either.

ya the o line is just terrible. Injuries? Seems like Rodgers had been running for his life all year

[MU82]

Always fun to watch a guy on a losing team endlessly trash-talking even as his team is getting its collective arse whipped.

[Small Orange Soda]

I can't wait to see what this team looks like when Gutey's guy Love is under center. The lack of talent on this team is astounding.

#BuffaloLite

[PointWarrior]

Who had the packers covering the spread?   I sure did not.

[Uncle Rico]

Packers are looking at hard times.  Missed draft classes, a QB who thinks he's the smartest guy in the room and is a terrible leader and a salary cap mess.  The defense is all talk and no bite.

[4everwarriors]

Buffalo was quicker to da ball and hit harder, aina?

[wadesworld]

The Packers 2020 Draft class is unbelievable to look back on.  You lost in the NFC Championship game, and your decision is to take a backup QB round 1, a backup running back round 2 (letting a solid backup running back walk), a backup tight end round 3, and then traded your 4th rounder to get your backup QB.  Taking backups at 2 of the last important positions in football.

Then you give your starting QB $50M/year to stick around anyway.

[CreightonWarrior]

Packers 1st round draft since 2019
Rashan Gary- Good pick
Darnell Savage - gets worse and worse, just runs past players instead of tackling
Jordan Love - worthless
Eric Stokes - got benched last night
Quay Walker - got ejected last night
Devonte Wyatt - 3 total tackles

[Uncle Rico]

Packers 1st round draft since 2019
Rashan Gary- Good pick
Darnell Savage - gets worse and worse, just runs past players instead of tackling
Jordan Love - worthless
Eric Stokes - got benched last night
Quay Walker - got ejected last night
Devonte Wyatt - 3 total tackles

Gary can rush the QB but is a liability against the run

[Dr. Blackheart]

From AR's Instagram today, on Halloween. Blue of Earth is on it.

"Double, double toil and trouble;
Fire burn and caldron bubble.
Fillet of a Shailene snake,
In the caldron boil and bake;
Eye of newt and toe of frog,
Wool of bat and tongue of dog,
Adams' fork and Patrick's sting,
Lazard's leg and Cobb's wing,
For a charm of powerful trouble,
Like a hell-broth boil and bubble.

Double, double toil and trouble;
Fire burn and caldron bubble.
Cool it with a Love's blood,
Then the charm is firm and good."

[MUBurrow]

The Packers 2020 Draft class is unbelievable to look back on.  You lost in the NFC Championship game, and your decision is to take a backup QB round 1, a backup running back round 2 (letting a solid backup running back walk), a backup tight end round 3, and then traded your 4th rounder to get your backup QB.  Taking backups at 2 of the last important positions in football.

I think this is the problem (philosophy) more than the hit rate on the players themselves.  Ted Thompson's hit rate on first rounders wasn't particularly good either.  But he just kept drafting for depth to the point where it seemed redundant and drove the fanbase nuts because they wanted to see him draft skill position players.  But he refused outside Eddie Lacy and the occasional WR.  If you take even one draft off in the search for high end depth, you fall behind.

[The Sultan]

I think this is the problem (philosophy) more than the hit rate on the players themselves.  Ted Thompson's hit rate on first rounders wasn't particularly good either.  But he just kept drafting for depth to the point where it seemed redundant and drove the fanbase nuts because they wanted to see him draft skill position players.  But he refused outside Eddie Lacy and the occasional WR.  If you take even one draft off in the search for high end depth, you fall behind.

In his early years, he drafted receivers all the time.

2006: Greg Jennings, 2nd round
2007: James Jones, 3rd round
2008:  Jordy Nelson, 2nd
2008: Jermichael Finley, 3rd
2011: Randall Cobb, 2nd
2014: Davante Adams, 2nd

Regardless, Thompson was simply brilliant at his job early in his tenure. He clearly fell off near the end, but between 2005 and 2010, I don't think there were many better.

And that's kinda the point.  IOW the philosophy is fine IF you pick good players.  It seems like Gutey really isn't doing that.

[wadesworld]

In his early years, he drafted receivers all the time.

2006: Greg Jennings, 2nd round
2007: James Jones, 3rd round
2008:  Jordy Nelson, 2nd
2008: Jermichael Finley, 3rd
2011: Randall Cobb, 2nd
2014: Davante Adams, 2nd

Regardless, Thompson was simply brilliant at his job early in his tenure. He clearly fell off near the end, but between 2005 and 2010, I don't think there were many better.

And that's kinda the point.  IOW the philosophy is fine IF you pick good players.  It seems like Gutey really isn't doing that.

That, and it doesn't seem the coaching staff is on the same page with the GM.  The roster that is put together is one that is built to run the ball on offense and then scheme wide receivers open, and the defense has strong DBs that should be playing man defense.  What they're really running is whatever Aaron Rodgers once after the first two drives (which isn't sticking with the run, except when the game was over last night) and play drop zone coverage.  It just doesn't make any sense.

[Uncle Rico]

That, and it doesn't seem the coaching staff is on the same page with the GM.  The roster that is put together is one that is built to run the ball on offense and then scheme wide receivers open, and the defense has strong DBs that should be playing man defense.  What they're really running is whatever Aaron Rodgers once after the first two drives (which isn't sticking with the run, except when the game was over last night) and play drop zone coverage.  It just doesn't make any sense.

The coach and GM are terrified of the QB.  The offense is a mess because the QB wants to throw it around the yard. 

LaFleur chose the DC despite red flags abounding about Joe Barry.

Say what you will about how things ended, but McCarthy demanded accountability early in his tenure from his QBs and got it. 

[Jockey]

Speaking of this horrible defense, this is from an article in the Athletic today:

"The Packers start six first-round picks on defense — defensive lineman Kenny Clark, edge rusher Rashan Gary, inside linebacker Quay Walker, cornerback Jaire Alexander, cornerback Eric Stokes and safety Darnell Savage Jr. They also have a 2021 first-team All-Pro inside linebacker in De'Vondre Campbell, a 2021 Pro Bowl alternate cornerback in Rasul Douglas, a sturdy safety in Adrian Amos and an edge rusher in Preston Smith who they've given two big-money contracts to.

Green Bay's defense shouldn't be this bad. You'd be hard-pressed to find a bigger disparity between individual talent on paper and group performance on the field on any other unit in the NFL.

It's an indictment on defensive coordinator Joe Barry, more than anything, but also the head coach in Matt LaFleur who hand-picked him and the players who have failed to tackle and cover (see: Savage and Stokes, more than others) far too often."



This is basically what I have been saying all year.

[withoutbias]

Speaking of this horrible defense, this is from an article in the Athletic today:

"The Packers start six first-round picks on defense — defensive lineman Kenny Clark, edge rusher Rashan Gary, inside linebacker Quay Walker, cornerback Jaire Alexander, cornerback Eric Stokes and safety Darnell Savage Jr. They also have a 2021 first-team All-Pro inside linebacker in De'Vondre Campbell, a 2021 Pro Bowl alternate cornerback in Rasul Douglas, a sturdy safety in Adrian Amos and an edge rusher in Preston Smith who they've given two big-money contracts to.

Green Bay's defense shouldn't be this bad. You'd be hard-pressed to find a bigger disparity between individual talent on paper and group performance on the field on any other unit in the NFL.

It's an indictment on defensive coordinator Joe Barry, more than anything, but also the head coach in Matt LaFleur who hand-picked him and the players who have failed to tackle and cover (see: Savage and Stokes, more than others) far too often."



This is basically what I have been saying all year.

This is entirely different than anything you've said about the defense this year, though.  I can't find anything remotely resembling this sentiment.

[Jockey]

This is entirely different than anything you've said about the defense this year, though.  I can't find anything remotely resembling this sentiment.

I have said repeatedly that the defense was vastly overrated. That they were terrible against team after team with bad QBs.

That was the gist of the article.

[Herman Cain]

Stupid Is as Stupid Does

https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2022/11/01/packers-do-nothing-at-nfls-trade-deadline/

[PointWarrior]

Neither buyers nor sellers, future does not look bright with status quo Gutey...

[Uncle Rico]

Neither buyers nor sellers, future does not look bright with status quo Gutey...

He's Captain Smith staring at the iceberg

[Dr. Blackheart]

He's Captain Smith staring at the iceberg

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