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wadesworld

Any ratings system that has the Packers defense as the 24th best defense and 10th best offense is incredibly flawed.

The Sultan

"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Jockey

Utterly embarrassing on both sides of the ball.

Oh, and Special Teams, too.

MUBurrow

Quote from: Jockey on October 23, 2022, 02:18:12 PM
Utterly embarrassing on both sides of the ball.

Oh, and Special Teams, too.

The defense is definitely not embarassing.  Weak vs the run, sure, but that unit is fine if the offense was functional.

forgetful


Jockey

Quote from: MUBurrow on October 23, 2022, 02:22:34 PM
The defense is definitely not embarassing.  Weak vs the run, sure, but that unit is fine if the offense was functional.

You really don't think this defense is embarrassing?

The Sultan

Quote from: Jockey on October 23, 2022, 02:30:32 PM
You really don't think this defense is embarrassing?

Not really. It's not great but if the offense could put drives together it would be fine.

"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

MUBurrow


PointWarrior

Defense Eembarrassing in last 3 games in 2nd half. 

Holy crap the offense is bad, imagine if we did not have Rodgers? 
:-*

CreightonWarrior

Quote from: PointWarrior on October 23, 2022, 02:36:04 PM


Holy crap the offense is bad, imagine if we did not have Rodgers? 
:-*
Maybe then they'd run the ball on 4th and 1

forgetful

Quote from: PointWarrior on October 23, 2022, 02:36:04 PM
Defense Eembarrassing in last 3 games in 2nd half. 

Holy crap the offense is bad, imagine if we did not have Rodgers? 
:-*

The defense is on the field too long, because the offense is bad.

Rodgers isn't making things better. He is missing open receivers. He overthrew an open deep receiver by about 20 yards (if it wasn't a horrible throw, it would have been PI and in scoring position). He isn't remotely mobile...can't roll out, which allows the defensive line to just t-up and drive straight at him and collapse the pocket.

Then you have bad communication between Rodgers and the receivers...which is in part because of Rodgers not finding time to work with them in the offseason like other QBs do.

Should have traded him for a haul and rebuilt.

forgetful

Also, why are there so many completely wide open receivers for every team we play. So many mental mistakes and poor discipline on defense, offense, and ST.

Jockey

Quote from: forgetful on October 23, 2022, 02:50:19 PM
Also, why are there so many completely wide open receivers for every team we play. So many mental mistakes and poor discipline on defense, offense, and ST.

Because this defense is really bad.

PointWarrior

Packers are a joke.   Washington as shitty as they are with an average to bad backup QB are marching up and down the field.   

Meanwhile the reigning 2 time MVP can barely muster 100 yards in 3 quarters.

Jockey

Quote from: PointWarrior on October 23, 2022, 02:53:52 PM
Packers are a joke.   Washington as crapty as they are with an average to bad backup QB are marching up and down the field.   

Meanwhile the reigning 2 time MVP can barely muster 100 yards in 3 quarters.

GB has had a run where they have faced 6 bad or backup QBs. The D has still been brutal.

The Sultan

Quote from: Jockey on October 23, 2022, 02:53:34 PM
Because this defense is really bad.

It actually isn't. I know you have been invested in this line since Carroll was named DC, but the defense is fine. They are on the field a ton because the offense isn't giving them any breaks. 
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

MUBurrow

Quote from: forgetful on October 23, 2022, 02:46:22 PM
The defense is on the field too long, because the offense is bad.

This. When a defense's weakness is against the run to begin with, and then you put them on the field for 30 minutes the first three quarters, they are going to struggle to get off the field in the second half every time.

Jockey

Quote from: forgetful on October 23, 2022, 02:46:22 PM
The defense is on the field too long, because the offense is bad.


The defense is on the field too long because THEY are bad. Maybe make a play and get off the field.

PointWarrior

Nah, defense sucks, can not get any critical stops.  Paid Campbell and Douglas after big FA years and they are now pedestrian.  Stokes sucks after good rookie year.  Zero pressure from the line.

They have talent, maybe the scheme / D coordinator is the issue?


Quote from: MUBurrow on October 23, 2022, 02:57:36 PM
This. When a defense's weakness is against the run to begin with, and then you put them on the field for 30 minutes the first three quarters, they are going to struggle to get off the field in the second half every time.

PointWarrior

It's amazing how much joy the tv crew takes joy in underdog teams beating rodgers and the packers.

forgetful

Not even an attempt at the hail mary. Instead laterals?

Dish

That end summarized perfectly this Packers team.

Babybluejeans

You guys actually lost to WASHINGTON. Lol.

wadesworld

Careful, the NFL version of KenPom's numbers are about to come out to show us how bad the Packers defense is. And if you don't buy it, you don't know football. Because the offense is definitely a top 10 offense like the numbers show and the defense is a bottom 10 defense.

rocket surgeon

Quote from: Jockey on October 23, 2022, 03:19:27 PM
The defense is on the field too long because THEY are bad. Maybe make a play and get off the field.

  i have got to go with jock on this one-wow they are all bad bad bad.  i was going to get out to golf course because i knew the packers weren't playing today, but all the tee times were filled
felz Houston ate uncle boozie's hands

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