2025 Green Bay Packers Thread

[tower912]

I blame me.  Kiss of death every time I root for GB.

[MUfan12]

Big time prove it year for coach and quarterback next season. Although I don't think the head coach should get the opportunity.

I don't have much memory to draw from pre-Holmgren, but this team was the most undisciplined I've seen.

[tower912]

Wear did GB rank in regards to age and experience? 

[The Sultan]

Big time prove it year for coach and quarterback next season. Although I don't think the head coach should get the opportunity.

I don't have much memory to draw from pre-Holmgren, but this team was the most undisciplined I've seen.

Oh the Forrest Gregg years were wonderful if you didn't like disciplined football. The Lindy Infante years were just blah except for the year the Majik Man almost made the playoffs.

MLF isn't going anywhere. Not a chance. However, with Ed Policy taking over as President in July, and the schedule significantly harder, its going to be interesting to see what happens if they don't make the playoffs...which I think is a distinct possibility.

[cheebs09]

Wear did GB rank in regards to age and experience? 

I believe that they are the youngest for the second year in a row. That seems to be more of a strategy now than just a quirk. I'm not sure we can use that as an excuse if that's how we are trying to build the team.

[Uncle Rico]

Big time prove it year for coach and quarterback next season. Although I don't think the head coach should get the opportunity.

I don't have much memory to draw from pre-Holmgren, but this team was the most undisciplined I've seen.

No one and I mean no one will ever be less disciplined than the Forrest Gregg Packers but at least they were entertainingly bad and quite dirty. 

The youth blaming is such a load of trash.  Youth isn't an excuse for the undisciplined nonsense this team does in week 18 and the Wild Card round.  They're just dumb.  They draft on athleticism and ignore football players with high IQ's.  The complete opposite of what Minnesota and Detroit are doing right now

[GB Warrior]

I don't know where this team focuses this offseason. They need to go high on WR - maybe double up FA and Draft. They probably need 3 CBs, a DE and DT. Turnovers are highly volatile - nothing about this defense screams repeatable.

It's an important offseason and yet I can't tell you what hole is most important. 

[Uncle Rico]

I don't know where this team focuses this offseason. They need to go high on WR - maybe double up FA and Draft. They probably need 3 CBs, a DE and DT. Turnovers are highly volatile - nothing about this defense screams repeatable.

It's an important offseason and yet I can't tell you what hole is most important. 

They better get a true number 1 WR, first and foremost.  They can't rely on Watson to comeback and he's not that good anyway.  None of these guys scare other teams.  They need an edge as well.  They have to have someone that can get to the QB w/o blitzing.

Those are priorities 1A and 1B, whatever order you want.

[cheebs09]

I'd say Tee Higgins, but he may pull a hammy signing the contract.

[Uncle Rico]

I'd say Tee Higgins, but he may pull a hammy signing the contract.

They have to get more creative than that.  If his teammate can't get a deal done in Cincinnati, get him

[GB Warrior]

They better get a true number 1 WR, first and foremost.  They can't rely on Watson to comeback and he's not that good anyway.  None of these guys scare other teams.  They need an edge as well.  They have to have someone that can get to the QB w/o blitzing.

Those are priorities 1A and 1B, whatever order you want.

I think that's the thing. They saved the hardest pieces for last (edge more than WR)

I'd say double up by going after a discard like Davante and then high in the draft. Tee Higgins would be great, but the Packers will be outbid by more desperate teams like the Patriots. Tyreek is only a good idea if you're playing Madden.

Edge seems like the harder position to fill because those guys just don't come free. You're going discount hunting (Mack?) unless you're trying to pay a guy free for way too much capital (Garrett, Crosby)

[Uncle Rico]

I think that's the thing. They saved the hardest pieces for last (edge more than WR)

I'd say double up by going after a discard like Davante and then high in the draft. Tee Higgins would be great, but the Packers will be outbid by more desperate teams like the Patriots. Tyreek is only a good idea if you're playing Madden.

Edge seems like the harder position to fill because those guys just don't come free. You're going discount hunting (Mack?) unless you're trying to pay a guy free for way too much capital (Garrett, Crosby)

They need playmakers and holding onto draft picks ain't getting impact players

[GB Warrior]

They need playmakers and holding onto draft picks ain't getting impact players

Not in the first round at least!

[wadesworld]

I'd be happy to see MLF go. I'd be happier to see Gutey go. The roster is just not great at all. And you can't keep getting nothing with first round draft picks.

[The Sultan]

On Love's contract

https://www.acmepackingcompany.com/2025/1/12/24342443/green-bay-packers-jordan-love-contract-details-update-dead-cap-release-2025

[Jockey]

I can't get mad at that, though.  They've held Philly to about 260 yards of total offense today through 52 minutes. This game is on the special teams and offense.  Special teams are -10 (-9 if we count the missed XP).  Love has two picks, arguably -3 there.  You give up only 19 at Philly that's a win by the defense

I agree. The defense was mostly good. On the road against a high powered offense.

We have seen this numerous times, though, where they play good to great until they don't. Last week against Chicago was the most recent time. Very good until they really needed a stop.

All in all, I think Hadley has done a better job with what he was given to work with than most Scoopers seem to think.

[Jockey]

Green Bay owns seven of the NFL's worst 37 special-teams EPA performances (19 percent) in the playoffs since 2008 despite accounting for only 24 of the 378 individual team postseason appearances (6 percent) over that span, per TruMedia.

Nixon's fumble was the single biggest play of the game yesterday.

[Uncle Rico]

I agree. The defense was mostly good. On the road against a high powered offense.

We have seen this numerous times, though, where they play good to great until they don't. Last week against Chicago was the most recent time. Very good until they really needed a stop.

All in all, I think Hadley has done a better job with what he was given to work with than most Scoopers seem to think.

Last week was egregious for multiple reasons.  The defense had actually put themselves in position to force Chicago into a hail Mary or dicey long FG until the way they played the last play.  There was no excuse to give that much space.

I also dump that loss at LaFleur's doorstep

[GB Warrior]

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Green Bay owns seven of the NFL's worst 37 special-teams EPA performances (19 percent) in the playoffs since 2008 despite accounting for only 24 of the 378 individual team postseason appearances (6 percent) over that span, per TruMedia.

Nixon's fumble was the single biggest play of the game yesterday.

You'll be able to tell what level of accountability exists for next year really quickly based on whether Bisaccia returns.  There has been nothing that has happened since he arrived that distinguishes him from anyone that's come before him.

Hell, he brought over Nixon who never even returned last year.

Just complete failing upward.

[Uncle Rico]

Jaire gone.  Probably

[Jockey]

I also dump that loss at LaFleur's doorstep

LaFleur is showing himself to be just an upgraded version of Eberflus. Or Doug Collins with the Bulls.

A good OC who leaves much to be desired as a HC.

[The Sultan]

Last week was egregious for multiple reasons.  The defense had actually put themselves in position to force Chicago into a hail Mary or dicey long FG until the way they played the last play.  There was no excuse to give that much space.

I also dump that loss at LaFleur's doorstep

Don't forget the horse collar tackle at the start of the drive.

[CreightonWarrior]

LaFleur is showing himself to be just an upgraded version of Eberflus. Or Doug Collins with the Bulls.

A good OC who leaves much to be desired as a HC.

I'd argue that his time management at the end of the bears game was just as egregious as the debacle that was the last nail in Eberflus' coffin.

[wadesworld]

Jaire gone.  Probably

You'd have to hope.

[Jockey]

Jaire gone.  Probably
[/According to Over the Cap, his cap hit in 2025 is $25.376 million. If traded or released, the dead money would be $18.117 million — $7.259 million in cap savings.

Jaire gone.  Probably

According to Over the Cap, his cap hit in 2025 is $25.376 million. If traded or released, the dead money would be $18.117 million — $7.259 million in cap savings.



So I guess they'll be just as good without him as they are without him.