NYC Subway Shooting

[wadesworld]

Crazy world. Guess all we can do is say prayers up because Second Amendment or something.

[MU82]

Thoughts, too. Don't forget them, wades.

[JWags85]

Glad we made something awful into an opportunity for something snarky.  Gil Brandt would be proud.

My wife's direct report uses that station every morning for his commute.  He switched WFH days till today, otherwise he would have been in the vicinity.  Just eerie and scary

[wadesworld]

Glad we made something awful into an opportunity for something snarky.  Gil Brandt would be proud.

My wife's direct report uses that station every morning for his commute.  He switched WFH days till today, otherwise he would have been in the vicinity.  Just eerie and scary

I'm not sure what else there is to say anymore.  We get these on the daily basically, and yet the response is never "how do we fix this," it's just, "now's not the time to have that discussion.  Let's pray for the victims and their families."  If not now, then when?

[JWags85]

I'm not sure what else there is to say anymore.  We get these on the daily basically, and yet the response is never "how do we fix this," it's just, "now's not the time to have that discussion.  Let's pray for the victims and their families."  If not now, then when?

I never said any of that.  I more subscribe to the mentality in this situation that if there isn't anything kind or productive to say, then say nothing.  Which is surely better than some crass comment.

You didn't further the discussion or discuss solutions, you just used senseless violence to mock people you disagree with.  I dislike gun nuts as much as the next, but comments like that aren't any more morally superior.

[wadesworld]

I never said any of that.  I more subscribe to the mentality in this situation that if there isn't anything kind or productive to say, then say nothing.  Which is surely better than some crass comment.

You didn't further the discussion or discuss solutions, you just used senseless violence to mock people you disagree with.  I dislike gun nuts as much as the next, but comments like that aren't any more morally superior.

I've offered common sense gun laws as a way to improve the problem (there will never be a solution in America), but that will never go anywhere.  The fact of the matter is there are people who think the government would be taking our freedom from us if we changed gun laws because of an amendment written over 200 years ago, when guns could get off a max of 3 shots per minute.  Obviously things have changed quite a bit since then, both within our society and with technology.  It MIGHT be time to take a look at gun laws in this country.

[rocket surgeon]

Crazy world. Guess all we can do is say prayers up because Second Amendment or something.

that is a total pile of steaming crap!  law abiding people do not do this.  there are over 400 million guns out there.  what are you going to do?  outlaw 200 million of them?  300 million of them? all of them?  regardless, the criminal is going to get them and use them while a law abiding citizen will be helpless. how about we start enforcing the laws we have against those who use guns for the wrong reasons. 

  i will bet you right now, this dude has a long long rap sheet and should be in prison.  time to protect the law abiding citizens

[wadesworld]

that is a total pile of steaming crap!  law abiding people do not do this.  there are over 400 million guns out there.  what are you going to do?  outlaw 200 million of them?  300 million of them? all of them?  regardless, the criminal is going to get them and use them while a law abiding citizen will be helpless. how about we start enforcing the laws we have against those who use guns for the wrong reasons. 

  i will bet you right now, this dude has a long long rap sheet and should be in prison.  time to protect the law abiding citizens

Well, thank god all those law abiding gun owners on the subway stopped this perp!

Wait, nevermind.  He's still at large.

[ZiggysFryBoy]

Well, thank god all those law abiding gun owners on the subway stopped this perp!

Wait, nevermind.  He's still at large.

Dumbass.  The law abiding gun owners would have their firearms locked and inaccessible per NYC regulations.

Once again:
Criminals don't care about laws.  They are criminals.

[Pakuni]

that is a total pile of steaming crap!  law abiding people do not do this.  there are over 400 million guns out there.  what are you going to do?  outlaw 200 million of them?  300 million of them? all of them?  regardless, the criminal is going to get them and use them while a law abiding citizen will be helpless. how about we start enforcing the laws we have against those who use guns for the wrong reasons. 

  i will bet you right now, this dude has a long long rap sheet and should be in prison.  time to protect the law abiding citizens

Nearly every major mass shooting in the past 30 years has been committed by a "law abiding citizen."
But keep that little head of yours firmly implanted ... in the sand.

[MU Fan in Connecticut]

The Onion always satires this.  I just realized there is even a Wikipedia page for The Onion's headlines on this.

‘No Way To Prevent This,’ Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%27No_Way_To_Prevent_This,%27_Says_Only_Nation_Where_This_Regularly_Happens

[wadesworld]

Dumbass.  The law abiding gun owners would have their firearms locked and inaccessible per NYC regulations.

Once again:
Criminals don't care about laws.  They are criminals.

Dumbass.  Read rocket's post.  The defenseless people could be saved by law abiding gun owners, he thinks.

This is why would should make it more difficult for criminals to get their hands on firearms.

We're scared of going into Milwaukee, we'll share the police blotter on here, of which like 95% involve firearms, but then we don't want to change laws around firearms.

Makes sense.

[lawdog77]

Nearly every major mass shooting in the past 30 years has been committed by a "law abiding citizen."
But keep that little head of yours firmly implanted ... in the sand.

And some of the mass shooters who weren't previously "law abiding" were still able to get their guns "legally" at either gun shows or other loopholes:

https://www.abc10.com/article/news/nation-world/mass-shooters-exploited-gun-laws/507-2fdc0f47-b501-4973-8894-bb8e8cfa77ab

[MU82]

that is a total pile of steaming crap!  law abiding people do not do this.  there are over 400 million guns out there.  what are you going to do?  outlaw 200 million of them?  300 million of them? all of them?  regardless, the criminal is going to get them and use them while a law abiding citizen will be helpless. how about we start enforcing the laws we have against those who use guns for the wrong reasons. 

  i will bet you right now, this dude has a long long rap sheet and should be in prison.  time to protect the law abiding citizens

Right on time, perfectly proving the point wades made to Wags.

I wonder how many of the toddlers who have accidentally shot their siblings have had "long rap sheets"?

Happiness is a warm gun!

[JWags85]

Nothing was proved.  This entire thread is unnecessary.  But it did exactly what it was intended to do.  A poor taste jab meant to troll and bait a certain poster or two, and it succeeded.  Well done.

Acting like it was some altruistic effort to bring to light to gun issues (which always go the exact same damn way here) is a joke.

[🏀]

Dumbass.  Read rocket's post.  The defenseless people could be saved by law abiding gun owners, he thinks.

This is why would should make it more difficult for criminals to get their hands on firearms.

We're scared of going into Milwaukee, we'll share the police blotter on here, of which like 95% involve firearms, but then we don't want to change laws around firearms.

Makes sense.

Dumbass.

White people and guns are just faaahhhhinnne.
People of color and guns are bad.

[Vander Blue Man Group]

that is a total pile of steaming crap!  law abiding people do not do this.  there are over 400 million guns out there.  what are you going to do?  outlaw 200 million of them?  300 million of them? all of them?  regardless, the criminal is going to get them and use them while a law abiding citizen will be helpless. how about we start enforcing the laws we have against those who use guns for the wrong reasons. 

  i will bet you right now, this dude has a long long rap sheet and should be in prison.  time to protect the law abiding citizens

And this is a total pile of steaming crap.

Why does this only consistently happen in America?  Please, would love to hear your answer.

[Jockey]

Nothing was proved.  This entire thread is unnecessary.  But it did exactly what it was intended to do.  A poor taste jab meant to troll and bait a certain poster or two, and it succeeded.  Well done.

Acting like it was some altruistic effort to bring to light to gun issues (which always go the exact same damn way here) is a joke.

So let's be more offended by a message board post than about criminals (or anyone) being able to legally get guns at will.

And yes, you did take the bait.

[JWags85]

So let's be more offended by a message board post than about criminals (or anyone) being able to legally get guns at will.

And yes, you did take the bait.

Its completely possible to think gun control is an issue and there needs to be wholesale changes in how things are done, and still think the post/thread was unneeded.

But of course that alternative would be your conclusion, you arrogant myopic clown.

[BrewCity83]

IBTL.

[MU82]

And this is a total pile of steaming crap.

Why does this only consistently happen in America?  Please, would love to hear your answer.

Because ... freedom! You commie!

[4everwarriors]

Any y'all got stockpiles of cash to throw at these sick mf'ers, hey?

[Merit Matters]

Did anyone catch the description of the suspect?

[Vander Blue Man Group]

Did anyone catch the description of the suspect?

Took a look at your post history based on this post. As expected. Pure abject stupidity.

[Merit Matters]

https://youtu.be/dTtcpOWxAWk