Just making sure I've got my MU buckets Mount Rushmore's right

[Eye]

Being it came up while watching the St Peters game last night with a group of pretty good sports fans, just making sure I've got my MU basketball Mount Rushmore's right.

College careers only - McGuire, Ellis, Lee, Wade
Post-MU basketball careers - Wade, Butler, Lucas, Rivers over Kojis if you include the coaching career, Kojis probably the better NBA career, but also in a different era, too.

[CTWarrior]

Being it came up while watching the St Peters game last night with a group of pretty good sports fans, just making sure I've got my MU basketball Mount Rushmore's right.

College careers only - McGuire, Ellis, Lee, Wade
Post-MU basketball careers - Wade, Butler, Lucas, Rivers over Kojis if you include the coaching career, Kojis probably the better NBA career, but also in a different era, too.

I think both lists are right on.  I'm sure others will disagree.

[Jockey]

Being it came up while watching the St Peters game last night with a group of pretty good sports fans, just making sure I've got my MU basketball Mount Rushmore's right.

College careers only - McGuire, Ellis, Lee, Wade
Post-MU basketball careers - Wade, Butler, Lucas, Rivers over Kojis if you include the coaching career, Kojis probably the better NBA career, but also in a different era, too.

I put Meminger ahead of Lee. Ellis over Chones ONLY because he played longer but Jimmy was the better player.

[JWags85]

Being it came up while watching the St Peters game last night with a group of pretty good sports fans, just making sure I've got my MU basketball Mount Rushmore's right.

College careers only - McGuire, Ellis, Lee, Wade
Post-MU basketball careers - Wade, Butler, Lucas, Rivers over Kojis if you include the coaching career, Kojis probably the better NBA career, but also in a different era, too.

I've been told Butler is a fake tough guy, a front runner, and solely a complementary player.  Likely should be behind Diener, Buycks, and Vander as a pro.

[CTWarrior]

I put Meminger ahead of Lee. Ellis over Chones ONLY because he played longer but Jimmy was the better player.

Not for nothing, but Butch Lee was the 1977 NCAA tournament MOP and the Naismith NCAA player of the year in 1978.  Only McGuire belongs above him, IMHO.

[WhiteTrash]

Not for nothing, but Butch Lee was the 1977 NCAA tournament MOP and the Naismith NCAA player of the year in 1978.  Only McGuire belongs above him, IMHO.

Was Allie that good?

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Should Chones be on the post MU-basketball career list over Kojis/Rivers?

[Jockey]

Should Chones be on the post MU-basketball career list over Kojis/Rivers?

Definitely ahead of Doc. Some might say that Wes Matthews should rank ahead of Doc, as well.

[The Sultan]

Doc has more NBA win shares and win shares per 48 than either Chones or Matthews. Doc also is the only one of the three to make an All Star Game.

[Goose]

Chones ahead of Doc and I can argue George Thompson and possibly Wes over Doc.

[Jockey]

Chones ahead of Doc and I can argue George Thompson and possibly Wes over Doc.

Good call, Goose.

I forgot about George. He is definitely on the college Mt. Rushmore. Could be the #1 all-timer at MU. Hopefully, you were lucky enough to watch him play.

Weird quirk, but the last time I saw him live, he was only the 3rd best player on the floor.

[Goose]

Jockey

Big fan of George back in the day, both MU and pro game.

[Dickthedribbler]

I would put George above Butch. Not only was George as good of a player as Butch, but George was the foundation upon which all that followed, was built.

[muwarrior69]

Jerome Whitehead, if he didn't make that last bucket in semi final game there would be no championship banner to hang, period; and that is enough to be on Mount Rushmore. Hell, even the real Mount Rushmore.

[Dr. Blackheart]

One above the rest.

http://www.espn.com/classic/s/2001/0126/1041837.html

[Jockey]

Your post reminded me of watching games at the old Arena. Before the game, you could literally go to the lower level and stand on the baseline watching warmups.

My fave was when the Bucks were playing the 76ers and of course I was down on the baseline to watch Dr. J. My wife (GF at the time) always snapped pictures and then we'd hope she got a good shot. Well, she got a perfect shot of me & Dr. J - He was right near the baseline to grab a bouncing ball and my wife got the pic just as he was turning. It looks like he is reaching out and handing the ball to me.

[Viper]

I'm carving out more rock to include George Thompson and Earl Tatum.

[JWags85]

I would put George above Butch. Not only was George as good of a player as Butch, but George was the foundation upon which all that followed, was built.

I'm not trying to disrespect George Thompson, truly, but Butch Lee was a 2x AA (not honorable mention) and NPOY and also led Marquette to a title and was a top 10 draft pick.  Wade was in the discussion for NPOY, a first team AA, and carried the team to a F4.  They were both among the 2-3 best players in college basketball their final years.  Thompson never was. 

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

I mean, Jae has quietly had a tremendous NBA career.

I don't think it's Mount Rushmore material, but surely he could give Doc a run for his money.

[Goose]

Wags

Butch is on the list.

[willie warrior]

Being it came up while watching the St Peters game last night with a group of pretty good sports fans, just making sure I've got my MU basketball Mount Rushmore's right.

College careers only - McGuire, Ellis, Lee, Wade
Post-MU basketball careers - Wade, Butler, Lucas, Rivers over Kojis if you include the coaching career, Kojis probably the better NBA career, but also in a different era, too.

Much and many more than you list
It all starts with Kojis, followed by Al then Thompson, then Ellis, Butch, Maurice and many more.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

I'm not sure if everyone understands the Mt. Rushmore meme

[4everwarriors]

If ya run outta room, ya kan start a Stone Mountain thread two, hey?

[MU82]

I'd listen to any battles for No. 4, but not sure how anybody could carve out a Marquette Mount Rushmore without Al, Butch and D-Wade.

Wags summed up the candidacies of Lee and Wade perfectly, so no need to go further.

For the fourth head ... Thompson, Ellis or Meminger would seem the most likely choices.

[Goose]

82

IMO, two are slam dunks, Wade and Al. I would have Butch on mine and number four is personal taste.