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Uncle Rico

Justin was so lazy, he didn't even write a letter to get the ball more.  Sad!
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wadesworld

#1351
Soon to be professional athletes get to being one of the top 40-60 draft eligible players in the world in a given year by being lazy, no doubt.

MU82

I am so glad we got rid of that guy.

Word is, he actually wanted to come back, but Shaka said, "Hit the bricks, you lazy loser."
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

MU82

The Athletic's latest "live" mock draft from Sam Vecenie:

44. Atlanta Hawks: Justin Lewis | 6-8 wing | 20 years old | Marquette

Thank goodness we're done with Lazy Lewis. If only Shaka hadn't stoopidly kept him on the team last year, we'd have capped a 30-win season with a Final Four run.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

MuggsyB

I really hope Justin is drafted mid 2nd.  I do think though that generally the mock drafts in the past aren't particularly accurate after the first 15 picks or so. 

Lennys Tap

Quote from: Shooter McGavin on June 20, 2022, 08:36:39 PM
Lenny his take is extreme.  You know better and are more nuanced.  Quit bending your knee to the lowest common denominator.

That NBA scout hates Justin Lewis, would never want him on the college team he cheers for and is very likely a racist in The World According To Scoop Idiots.

Herman Cain

Quote from: MuggsyB on June 21, 2022, 02:05:39 PM
I really hope Justin is drafted mid 2nd.  I do think though that generally the mock drafts in the past aren't particularly accurate after the first 15 picks or so.
Muggsy: It is looking good for Justin in second round . He is now in everyone's mock, the last holdout posted him yesterday . If for some reason he doesn't get drafted ( trades can impact ) he will get a two way contract which is worth good money
"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

Shooter McGavin

Quote from: Lennys Tap on June 21, 2022, 03:08:58 PM
That NBA scout hates Justin Lewis, would never want him on the college team he cheers for and is very likely a racist in The World According To Scoop Idiots.

Oh boy. 

MU82

Quote from: Lennys Tap on June 21, 2022, 03:08:58 PM
That NBA scout hates Justin Lewis, would never want him on the college team he cheers for and is very likely a racist in The World According To Scoop Idiots.

Why did Shaka want him on the team? He enables lazy players? Why didn't he bench Lewis the way he benched Morsell, Kolek and Kuath?
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

TSmith34, Inc.

Quote from: Lennys Tap on June 21, 2022, 03:08:58 PM
That NBA scout hates Justin Lewis, would never want him on the college team he cheers for and is very likely a racist in The World According To Scoop Idiots.
You're really becoming an embarrassing version of your former self.
If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.

Pakuni

Over at Draft Kings, you can get +1000 on Justin to go in the 1st round.

MU82

It's really a simple equation. Either you don't think Lewis is lazy, or you think that Shaka is a stoopid coach who enables laziness by giving significantly more playing time to a lazy guy than to any other player.

Which is it?

If it's the latter, it doesn't bode well for Marquette's program under Shaka.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Lennys Tap

Quote from: TSmith34 on June 21, 2022, 03:59:17 PM
You're really becoming an embarrassing version of your former self.

Smitty

I'm frequently embarrassed on your behalf. Glad I could return the favor.


Lennys Tap

Quote from: MU82 on June 21, 2022, 04:31:53 PM
It's really a simple equation. Either you don't think Lewis is lazy, or you think that Shaka is a stoopid coach who enables laziness by giving significantly more playing time to a lazy guy than to any other player.

Which is it?

If it's the latter, it doesn't bode well for Marquette's program under Shaka.

You can't possibly be this dense but your "either or" is what's stoopid.

Justin Lewis is a gifted player. I liked him better than Dawson as a freshman and he was our best player last year. But (sit down, this is going to come as a major shock) he wasn't perfect. Anybody who watches our games with a remotely honest eye at times saw the same thing that the NBA scout saw. That doesn't mean I was glad to see him go. That doesn't mean I didn't like him as a player and cheer for him.

Get a grip.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: Lennys Tap on June 21, 2022, 04:55:38 PM
You can't possibly be this dense but your "either or" is what's stoopid.

Justin Lewis is a gifted player. I liked him better than Dawson as a freshman and he was our best player last year. But (sit down, this is going to come as a major shock) he wasn't perfect. Anybody who watches our games with a remotely honest eye at times saw the same thing that the NBA scout saw. That doesn't mean I was glad to see him go. That doesn't mean I didn't like him as a player and cheer for him.

Get a grip.

You don't.  Some do.
Guster is for Lovers

Shooter McGavin

Quote from: Lennys Tap on June 21, 2022, 04:55:38 PM
You can't possibly be this dense but your "either or" is what's stoopid.

Justin Lewis is a gifted player. I liked him better than Dawson as a freshman and he was our best player last year. But (sit down, this is going to come as a major shock) he wasn't perfect. Anybody who watches our games with a remotely honest eye at times saw the same thing that the NBA scout saw. That doesn't mean I was glad to see him go. That doesn't mean I didn't like him as a player and cheer for him.

Get a grip.

That is the answer and what you feel.  Normal Lenny.  Slyly defending a fellow scooper when their take was extremely silly is what doesn't seem normal for you. 

TSmith34, Inc.

Quote from: Lennys Tap on June 21, 2022, 04:42:34 PM
Smitty

I'm frequently embarrassed on your behalf. Glad I could return the favor.

Ah. "I know you are but what am I?" Good one.
If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.

MUDPT

Quote from: Lennys Tap on June 21, 2022, 04:55:38 PM
You can't possibly be this dense but your "either or" is what's stoopid.

Justin Lewis is a gifted player. I liked him better than Dawson as a freshman and he was our best player last year. But (sit down, this is going to come as a major shock) he wasn't perfect. Anybody who watches our games with a remotely honest eye at times saw the same thing that the NBA scout saw. That doesn't mean I was glad to see him go. That doesn't mean I didn't like him as a player and cheer for him.

Get a grip.

I'm not sure how much scouts talk to college coaches versus front office people talking to college coaches. Scout says he's "lazy" on defense and then the front office could talk to Shaka, who tells them: "yeah, I told him to take it easy defensively, I had an elite perimeter defender and a really good shot blocker. I needed his energy on offense."

MU82

Quote from: Lennys Tap on June 21, 2022, 04:55:38 PM
You can't possibly be this dense but your "either or" is what's stoopid.

Justin Lewis is a gifted player. I liked him better than Dawson as a freshman and he was our best player last year. But (sit down, this is going to come as a major shock) he wasn't perfect. Anybody who watches our games with a remotely honest eye at times saw the same thing that the NBA scout saw. That doesn't mean I was glad to see him go. That doesn't mean I didn't like him as a player and cheer for him.

Get a grip.

Nobody ever portrayed Lewis as "perfect," Lenny, so get a grip.

I still can't believe Shaka kept running a "lazy" player onto the court over and over and over again. Most minutes on the team, by far, to a lazy guy! What kind of coach does that?
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

4everwarriors

Before y'all rip on fellow Scoopers, perhaps NBA scouts, independent of consultation with the intelligentsia of this website, have formed their own analysis of #10 and how it translates to the Association. If Justin isn't lazy, then possibly he's simply stupid. Taking plays off literally has cost him hundreds of thousands of dollars, if not millions, aina?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

Uncle Rico

Quote from: 4everwarriors on June 21, 2022, 06:34:28 PM
Before y'all rip on fellow Scoopers, perhaps NBA scouts, independent of consultation with the intelligentsia of this website, have formed their own analysis of #10 and how it translates to the Association. If Justin isn't lazy, then possibly he's simply stupid. Taking plays off literally has cost him hundreds of thousands of dollars, if not millions, aina?

NBA drafts on potential, so no.
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The Sultan

Quote from: 4everwarriors on June 21, 2022, 06:34:28 PM
Before y'all rip on fellow Scoopers, perhaps NBA scouts, independent of consultation with the intelligentsia of this website, have formed their own analysis of #10 and how it translates to the Association. If Justin isn't lazy, then possibly he's simply stupid. Taking plays off literally has cost him hundreds of thousands of dollars, if not millions, aina?

Uh...no.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

MUfan12

Quote from: Lennys Tap on June 21, 2022, 04:55:38 PM

Justin Lewis is a gifted player. I liked him better than Dawson as a freshman and he was our best player last year. But (sit down, this is going to come as a major shock) he wasn't perfect. Anybody who watches our games with a remotely honest eye at times saw the same thing that the NBA scout saw. That doesn't mean I was glad to see him go. That doesn't mean I didn't like him as a player and cheer for him.


100% correct. This scout's take, and Vecenie's analysis in The Athletic are fair criticisms.

I do also think that sitting out the combine scrimmages was a bad move on his part. He had a chance to flip the narrative a bit and didn't take it.

That said, I hope he goes as high as possible and sticks in the league.

rocket surgeon

the other side of the equation is, and don't get me wrong, i very much enjoyed his play for us, BUT he might be one of those dudes built more for the college game than the pros.  there have been many great college ball'ers who fit that mold.

   justin always seemed to be moving at a different speed.  sometimes one can get away with that via "smarts" and/or against college level talent, not pro.  to compare him to jae is being very very kind
felz Houston ate uncle boozie's hands

panda

Quote from: rocket ALM surgeon on June 21, 2022, 06:57:44 PM
the other side of the equation is, and don't get me wrong, i very much enjoyed his play for us, BUT he might be one of those dudes built more for the college game than the pros.  there have been many great college ball'ers who fit that mold.

   justin always seemed to be moving at a different speed.  sometimes one can get away with that via "smarts" and/or against college level talent, not pro.  to compare him to jae is being very very kind

He and jae are very different players. It's a lazy comparison.

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