2023 Coaching Carousel

[JWags85]

Yes, many of those jobs were prime, but they were pre-ordained versus a wild market.  Indiana, Duke, NC went to vested alums. Texas and Oklahoma were related to Shaka's move.

Putting IU in with Duke and UNC is crazy.  The latter two had assistants who were sitting on the bench close to a decade before being picked by the school and their mentors.  Woodson came out of seemingly nowhere after IU couldn't hire a bunch of big splash names.  He was in no way pre-ordained or even slotted highly as a preferred alum pick.  It would be like if Marquette hired Jim Boylan

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Half of the SEC is/was/will open. Georgia, Florida, South Carolina, LSU, Misouri, and Mississippi st. will likely open

You could probably add A&M to the list once Buzz jumps ship to Florida because he's Buzz. 

[Galway Eagle]

You could probably add A&M to the list once Buzz jumps ship to Florida because he's Buzz.

Has his PR team already started hating on the SEC and TAMU?

[LAZER]

You could probably add A&M to the list once Buzz jumps ship to Florida because he's Buzz.

Can't Florida do better than Buzz? That's a good job.

[Uncle Rico]

Can't Florida do better than Buzz? That's a good job.

Too much pressure there for Brent to take that job

[Dr. Blackheart]

Putting IU in with Duke and UNC is crazy.  The latter two had assistants who were sitting on the bench close to a decade before being picked by the school and their mentors.  Woodson came out of seemingly nowhere after IU couldn't hire a bunch of big splash names.  He was in no way pre-ordained or even slotted highly as a preferred alum pick.  It would be like if Marquette hired Jim Boylan

You make it sound like Woodson had no coaching experience. He was an NBA assistant since 1996. Sure some crazy ass names were thrown out there like Oats and Stevens but I4 alums wanted a home grown alum. The only question was college recruiting so they paired him with Matta. As early as March 20 he was a leader in the press. As we look back, this may have been the best hire of the home growns.

[warriorchick]

Has his PR team already started hating on the SEC and TAMU?

Or has there been a feelgood TV story about the TAMU version of Buzz's Bunch?

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

Goodman actually kinda ripped TAMU on his segment that I saw today.

Basically said, win more games and schedule tougher non con so they don't even put themselves in that position.

[JWags85]

You make it sound like Woodson had no coaching experience. He was an NBA assistant since 1996. Sure some crazy ass names were thrown out there like Oats and Stevens but I4 alums wanted a home grown alum. The only question was college recruiting so they paired him with Matta. As early as March 20 he was a leader in the press. As we look back, this may have been the best hire of the home growns.

Thats fine, but you said "pre-ordained" and compared him to 2 guys who were basically penciled into the job without a search from within the program.  When it became clear Miller was on his way out, pretending like Woodson was the first or second choice from the jump is revisionist history.  He hadn't been around college coaching at all and wasn't exactly a great NBA coach.  He's worked out pretty well, but the situations between IU and their search and UNC/Duke were wildly different.  The only similarity is that there are alums coaching.

[Pakuni]

Can't Florida do better than Buzz? That's a good job.

Raises an interesting question ... SEC run notwithstanding, was Buzz's stock higher three years ago than today?

[Dr. Blackheart]

Thats fine, but you said "pre-ordained" and compared him to 2 guys who were basically penciled into the job without a search from within the program.  When it became clear Miller was on his way out, pretending like Woodson was the first or second choice from the jump is revisionist history.  He hadn't been around college coaching at all and wasn't exactly a great NBA coach.  He's worked out pretty well, but the situations between IU and their search and UNC/Duke were wildly different.  The only similarity is that there are alums coaching.

Whatever. "Pre-ordained" as they all wanted one of their own (whether there wasn't segments that didn't want to hire outside. I mean, Brad Stevens was mentioned for all three jobs).

[JWags85]

Raises an interesting question ... SEC run notwithstanding, was Buzz's stock higher three years ago than today?

I would think unquestionably. Regardless of how some feel about his time at VT, he still took over a middling/bad (at the time) program and was coming off 3 straight NCAAs and a Sweet 16 that was a whisker away from an E8.

He took over a program that wasn't great, but was in better shape, and has done very little in 3 seasons.  I don't think he's got the shine he had at all.

Whatever. "Pre-ordained" as they all wanted one of their own (whether there wasn't segments that didn't want to hire outside. I mean, Brad Stevens was mentioned for all three jobs).

I mean, not at all what you originally implied, but I don't disagree that IU wanted an alum or someone with Indiana roots.

[swoopem]

Didn't IU think they were gonna get Scott Drew?

I thought Mike Woodson was a 5th or 6th choice

[NickelDimer]

I'm glad this isn't the year we have a vacancy.

[Pakuni]

Didn't know that Chris Collins was on the hot seat, but Northwestern's AD put out a statement saying he'll be back next year.

[JWags85]

Didn't know that Chris Collins was on the hot seat, but Northwestern's AD put out a statement saying he'll be back next year.

I mean, save for 2017 breaking the tourney drought, he's been pretty awful.  I know its NW but he's been worse than Carmody's later years and they are trending downward.  Maybe they give Wojo a look

[4everwarriors]

Crean sucks

[MU82]

Didn't know that Chris Collins was on the hot seat, but Northwestern's AD put out a statement saying he'll be back next year.

The AD probably did that to remind everybody that Northwestern basketball exists. It is very close to being a complete nonentity in Chicago. The AHL Wolves have a much bigger following, and the WNBA Sky's games are often better attended.

[JakeBarnes]

The AD probably did that to remind everybody that Northwestern basketball exists. It is very close to being a complete nonentity in Chicago. The AHL Wolves have a much bigger following, and the WNBA Sky's games are often better attended.

Sky games are a blast. And also significantly exceed depaul crowds

[MU82]

Sky games are a blast. And also significantly exceed depaul crowds

I went to a couple of Storm games on a previous trip to Seattle and really enjoyed them. Very fan-friendly, and they have Sue Bird and other really good players.

And yes, the enthusiasm around DePaul basketball makes Northwestern "hoops central"!

[LAZER]

I would think unquestionably. Regardless of how some feel about his time at VT, he still took over a middling/bad (at the time) program and was coming off 3 straight NCAAs and a Sweet 16 that was a whisker away from an E8.

He took over a program that wasn't great, but was in better shape, and has done very little in 3 seasons.  I don't think he's got the shine he had at all.

I really don't have a good idea of what type of team A&M will have next year, but it's not a stretch that he finds himself on the hot seat.

[Lennys Tap]

Raises an interesting question ... SEC run notwithstanding, was Buzz's stock higher three years ago than today?

No doubt. His stock was through the roof and at all time highs after his success at MU and previously woeful V Tech. Stock is off those all time highs but still merits a buy rating. Meanwhile CTC stock has been delisted.

[LAZER]

No doubt. His stock was through the roof and at all time highs after his success at MU and previously woeful V Tech. Stock is off those all time highs but still merits a buy rating. Meanwhile CTC stock has been delisted.

If we're going with a binary buy/sell, I'd sell.

[MU82]

Frank Martin gone.

Only one NCAAT appearance while at S Carolina... but unfortunately for MU that was a good one.

[Golden Avalanche]

If we're going with a binary buy/sell, I'd sell.

Ditto.

Best attribute for early in career Buzz was digging through the cracks and finding ingenious ways to get immediately eligible guys.

With NIL and the break of transfer sitting out this leg up Buzz had is gone. He's no different then others and quite a few others do it better.

That written, he'll be in the discussion as usual to get his raise and perhaps leave out the back door as he does.