Can Marquette be "The Next Villanova"?

[fjm]

What time is Marquette's Elite 8 game start this weekend?   Same time as DePaul's?

Ope. Looks like you're joining NolongerWarriors and 4evercantspell on the block list. Post above is def you.

[bradforster]

Ope. Looks like you're joining NolongerWarriors and 4evercantspell on the block list. Post above is def you.

It's ok.  We are on our way to becoming the next Houston!

[Ardmore Mug]

Quote from: Farley36 on Today at 08:50:47 PM
"What time is Marquette's Elite 8 game start this weekend?   Same time as DePaul's?"



Right after  the Rodents play ! ! ! 

[Farley36]

Villanova has a legit shot at a 3rd natty.  Anyone who thinks the Marquette program is in the same universe as Villanova is insane.

[GoldenEagles03]

Villanova has a legit shot at a 3rd natty.  Anyone who thinks the Marquette program is in the same universe as Villanova is insane.

Ironically enough we are in the same universe according to science/astronomy.

Also ironically enough Marquette hasn't lost to Villanova in like 400 days or so.

[Norm]

So how is Nova Nova?  Obviously it all comes down to Jay Wright.  It's really about:

1) Point guard play.  They always have a lead guard that is both a threat to score but is in total control of the game.  I know people don't think Gillespe is BE POY good for some reason, but he is an absolute stud in the college game.  And Brunsnon before him, Archi before him, Reynolds, etc.  They play at their own pace and control everything offensively.

2) Discipline.  The shot fakes on the perimeter into the drive, the jump stops in the paint, the defensive matchups.  There are times where it looks like a team is going to get out and run in transition on them and at the very least get bad matchups for Nova, and at best get an easy transition basket.  But they get matched up so well.

3) Shooting.  All 5 guys on the court are threats to shoot the ball.  They can spread you out, drive on you, and kick from there.  They're always making the defense move.

4) Weight room.  Especially their guards, but everyone can battle in the Big East and in the Tournament.

And then they have the talent on top of all of that.

I'd be thrilled to have about half of what is above.

Excellent points and I agree wholeheartedly.

Nova has also gotten much. much better recruits over the past 10-15 years than Marquette has brought in. Nova has had better coaching, better players and better results than Marquette. Unless our recruiting improves I don't see Marquette coming close to the success Villanova has had recently.

[79Warrior]

Ironically enough we are in the same universe according to science/astronomy.

Also ironically enough Marquette hasn't lost to Villanova in like 400 days or so.

Post season is what matters. It is what you play for. We have been a failure the last 10 years in that regard.

[MU82]

Too bad Jay Wright didn't stop trying in 2013, when Marquette was winning the Big East and going to the Elite Eight, and Nova was coming off a stretch of R1 loss/13-19/R1 loss.

I hear any Villanova fans who aspired for greatness for the program back then were told on NovaScoop to just quit caring.

[Goose]

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What does Farley think about MU becoming the next Villanova? That really is my baseline and do lazy to read all of his posts.

[ATL MU Warrior]

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What does Farley think about MU becoming the next Villanova? That really is my baseline and do lazy to read all of his posts.

He hasn't been very clear about it but I don't think he is convinced we can do it.

[Goose]

ATL MU

Thanks for the confirmation. I have been trying to read between the lines in his posts and your post clears things up for me.

[WhiteTrash]

Can Marquette be "The Next St. Peter's"?

[MU82]

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What does Farley think about MU becoming the next Villanova? That really is my baseline and do lazy to read all of his posts.

Sources say Farley has stopped caring about Marquette. Because that's what true fans do.

[Farley36]

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What does Farley think about MU becoming the next Villanova? That really is my baseline and do lazy to read all of his posts.

Wrong.  I think with the right coach Marquette could become much closer to Villanova than we are now.  What I find silly though is the people here who seem to think we currently aren't far off from being Villanova.   We are much closer to the bottom teams in the Big East than the top teams right now.

[Goose]

Farley

not exactly sure why I am asking this, but who would be the right coach?

[Viper]

Wrong.  I think with the right coach Marquette could become much closer to Villanova than we are now.  What I find silly though is the people here who seem to think we currently aren't far off from being Villanova.   We are much closer to the bottom teams in the Big East than the top teams right now.

I won't say Shaka was the wrong hire...or correct hire, yet. The coaching search is such a crap-shoot, it seems. Did Shaka's in-game crunch time coaching win and/or lose a game or two? Both, I'd say. But, we definitely need more player talent. Let's see what emerges this off-season, who returns, and their on-court improvement. I think it's possible MU is a top 3 BE team next year. We could also be a bottom 4 BE team next year.  If ever a record correctly reflects where a team is at now, it's Marquette. Mid-pack.

[4everwarriors]

St. Peters coach was sub .500 prior to this season, hey?

[Uncle Rico]

St. Peters coach was sub .500 prior to this season, hey?

And now he's going to make some serious cheddar

[MU82]

I think with the right coach Marquette could become much closer to Villanova than we are now.

This is the first attempt you've kind of made at a comment that wasn't either pure idiocy or trolling. Indeed, this is similar to what I've been saying throughout the thread, and it's more in line with what the intent of the O.P. was. Congrats on almost kind of figuring it out.

Now, can we give Shaka another year or two to see if he can be the right coach, or should we fire him today and start over?

[4everwarriors]

And now he's going to make some serious cheddar

Sure, because schools are suckers and want the latest and the greatest. He'll get da bag. But, fookin' John Wooden couldn't do chit without talent. A good mix of talent and coachin' puts you the conversation, hey?

[WhiteTrash]

Sure, because schools are suckers and want the latest and the greatest. He'll get da bag. But, fookin' John Wooden couldn't do chit without talent cheating. A good mix of talent and coachin' puts you the conversation, hey?

FIFY

[Goose]

4ever

I like the St. Peter's coach and hope he makes a big haul after this season. That said, I think there will be a very sorry buyer for his services in a few years. I hope I am wrong, but not much of resume prior to the last few weeks.

[4everwarriors]

FIFY

All coaches cheat, hey?

[Farley36]

Farley

not exactly sure why I am asking this, but who would be the right coach?

Not Wojo and likely not Shaka.   I wont pretend to know.  But Nova wouldn't be Noca without Jay Wright.  They captured lightning in a bottle.  That's kind of the point.  Even with all the resources that MU has, they also would have to capture lightning in a bottle.  Until we do, to claim we are closer to Nova than bottom BE teams is just fan hope more than reality.

[Scoop Snoop]

4ever

I like the St. Peter's coach and hope he makes a big haul after this season. That said, I think there will be a very sorry buyer for his services in a few years. I hope I am wrong, but not much of resume prior to the last few weeks.

If he goes to SH, I sure hope you are right Goose. I'm fine with a good, solid SH team- provided that we beat them on a fairly regular basis- but a BE version of what he has done at St. Peter's? No thank you. With Nova and UCONN, we have enough to deal with.