2022 BET

[wisblue]

I tried to work through the possibilities for MU in terms of BET seeding. I think I got it covered but let me know if I butchered anything.

Did not realize how high the probability of facing Hall is as they have Georgetown and then Creighton, and will have the tiebreaker over the Jays should they win.

http://painttouches.com/2022/02/28/big-east-tournament-seeding-scenarios/

Thank you for the link.

When I looked at this on Sunday and posted above, I narrowed down all of the scenarios to the ones that account for what I think are almost all of the realistic possibilities.

In short I assumed that Seton Hall will beat Georgetown and UConn will beat DePaul.

When you do that you trim down the possibilities to just 12. MU going 2-0, 1-1 or 0-2 combined with the four possible combinations of outcomes in the two Creighton games against UConn and Seton Hall.

When I did this I found that MUs seeding is exactly the same whether they win 1 game or two and that narrowed the possibilities down to 8.

This will all be made a lot clearer tomorrow night, especially if MU can beat DePaul. Then there would only be 2 likely outcomes: MU would get either the 4 or 5 seed (which are effectively identical) and the Creighton- Seton Hall game would decide who MU would play.

The Connecticut-De Paul game might be a factor, but only if UConn loses to Creighton. A UConn win tomorrow likely locks them into the #3 spot with a slim chance at #2 if Villanova loses twice.

Just focusing on tomorrow I'll be rooting for wins by MU (of course) and UConn to guarantee MU the bye and keep UConn and Nova in the other half of the bracket.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

MU loses to SJU and Hall beats Creighton and we're the 6 correct?

[CountryRoads]

MU loses to SJU and Hall beats Creighton and we're the 6 correct?

Yes. Get ready for it.

[Johnny B]

what scenario has to happen to face CU

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

what scenario has to happen to face CU

I think if Creighton wins we are guaranteed the 5, and Creighton the 4. If Hall beats Creighton, we have to win to face Creighton and get the bye.

[SaveOD238]

what scenario has to happen to face CU

Win.  UConn also win or Creighton lose

[Newsdreams]

what scenario has to happen to face CU

We win next game

[mileskishnish72]

Or, if we play like this vs. SJU and fall to sixth, we would get Creighton.

Of course, we'd have to get by Georgetown first.

[Newsdreams]

Or, if we play like this vs. SJU and fall to sixth, we would get Creighton.

Of course, we'd have to get by Georgetown first.

Or if SH loses to Creighton no matta

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

MU loses to SJU and Hall beats Creighton and we're the 6 correct?

I actually think we're pretty likely to play UCONN in the 4/5 game if we win Sat.

UCONN and Creighton are tied at 12-6.  Creighton swept UCONN.  So if UCONN wins vs. Depaul, Creighton beats Seton Hall, and we beat SJU, Creighton is the 3, UCONN the 4, and MU the 5.  We face UCONN. Ugh.

To play Creighton, we need Seton Hall to beat them, and MU to win.

Basically destiny is still in MU's hands to get the bye we have the tiebreaker over Seton Hall.  But a lot of ugly scenarios for MU after last nights brutality.

[brewcity77]

I guess the good news is we'll know by the time we get to tipoff on Saturday. I think the ideal would probably be to draw Creighton in the 4/5 game, but while it might seem blasphemous, the next best case might be falling to the 6, playing Georgetown, then advancing to see 3-seed Creighton with a Villanova team we've beaten twice likely next up. I want to be as far from UConn as possible.

[We R Final Four]

Can someone provide the possible scenarios for the BET based upon the outcomes of Saturday's games:

SH @ CU
DeP @ UCONN
STJ @ MU.
I understand we are 5 or 6. I understand we could play CU, UCONN or Georgetown.
Thank you

[GoldenEagles03]

I guess the good news is we'll know by the time we get to tipoff on Saturday. I think the ideal would probably be to draw Creighton in the 4/5 game, but while it might seem blasphemous, the next best case might be falling to the 6, playing Georgetown, then advancing to see 3-seed Creighton with a Villanova team we've beaten twice likely next up. I want to be as far from UConn as possible.

I'm more worried about winning Saturday than opponent next week.

I prioritize winning Saturday to avoid the bubble, over getting an advantageous matchup next week.

[Ardmore Mug]

Interesting article in Bleacher Report picking alll of the Conference Tournament Champions... For the Big East, believe it or not, they picked MU ! ! !   

[Hards Alumni]

Interesting article in Bleacher Report picking alll of the Conference Tournament Champions... For the Big East, believe it or not, they picked MU ! ! !   

Was it written in January? 

[Ardmore Mug]

Nope ! ! !  Dated March 3 ! ! !  He even includes CU's loss of Nembhard ! !! 

[BrewCity83]

Someone's gotta win it--might as well be us!!

[1SE]

So if we win or SH loses we're #5? Go Blue Jays!

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

So if we win or SH loses we're #5? Go Blue Jays!

I don't think that's the best case scenario unless you're rooting for MU to face UCONN, prob worst matchup in the league.

Best case scenario is MU beats SJU, Creighton beats Hall and UCONN beats Depaul. Finishes 3. UConn, 4. Creighton, 5. MU and 6. SHU.

If Creighton beats hall, Creighton gets 3 seed and UCONN 4 which isn't ideal at all assuming MU wins today.

But yes, MU has tiebreaker over Hall so if they both lose, MU is the 5.

[We R Final Four]

I don't think that's the best case scenario unless you're rooting for MU to face UCONN, prob worst matchup in the league.

Best case scenario is MU beats SJU, Creighton beats Hall and UCONN beats Depaul. Finishes 3. UConn, 4. Creighton, 5. MU and 6. SHU.

In that scenario, Creighton would be the 3, since they own the tie breaker with 2 wins over UCONN.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

I don't think that's the best case scenario unless you're rooting for MU to face UCONN, prob worst matchup in the league.

Best case scenario is MU beats SJU, Creighton beats Hall and UCONN beats Depaul. Finishes 3. UConn, 4. Creighton, 5. MU and 6. SHU.

I think you mean Hall beats Creighton

[mileskishnish72]

The SHU-CU game is big for them, and big for MU seeding in BET. It would be nice,  of course, to avoid a Wed. game. I am with some of the others here in that the sooner I don't see UConn, the happier I will be.

To that end, I will be a big Hall fan today. If they won, it would drop CU to the 4-spot. Then we would have to win to stay in the 5. The bad news is that if CU wins, UConn will be the 4, and we won't be able to get behind SHU and will see UConn in our opener. If the Hall wins, and we don't, then it's Hello, Georgetown and if we get by them UConn will be next. That would be the worst - a Wed. game AND UConn. I think the best scenario is for SHU and MU to register W's today. That would give us another crack at Creighton and put UConn in the other half of the bracket. It would also most likely involve us playing PC again, and keep UConn and Nova where we couldn't see either 'til Saturday.

[Newsdreams]

The SHU-CU game is big for them, and big for MU seeding in BET. It would be nice,  of course, to avoid a Wed. game. I am with some of the others here in that the sooner I don't see UConn, the happier I will be.

To that end, I will be a big Hall fan today. If they won, it would drop CU to the 4-spot. Then we would have to win to stay in the 5. The bad news is that if CU wins, UConn will be the 4, and we won't be able to get behind SHU and will see UConn in our opener. If the Hall wins, and we don't, then it's Hello, Georgetown and if we get by them UConn will be next. That would be the worst - a Wed. game AND UConn. I think the best scenario is for SHU and MU to register W's today. That would give us another crack at Creighton and put UConn in the other half of the bracket. It would also most likely involve us playing PC again, and keep UConn and Nova where we couldn't see either 'til Saturday.

To me worst scenario is playing Georgetown, we have nothing to win and even beating them could hurt us.

[AlienWarrior]

I don't think our style matches well w/ St Johns since we both play fast. Unless we hit a good bunch of 3's, I don't like our chances. Also, St Johns has been playing well on the road lately even in their loss at DePaul.

[GoldenEagles03]

The path for Marquette to miss the NCAA Tournament has just opened up 👀

Lose to St. John's and we play Georgetown. Lose to Georgetown and we get the NIT.

Maybe not likely, but the path has just opened up.