2022 BET

[Scoop Snoop]

I thought that the BET should have its own thread, especially for projecting probable/possible seeds and matchups. With GT having clinched the 11 seed, your thoughts on how the other seeds may play out? Of course, this weekend's results will narrow it down. If my math is correct, MU clinches the 5 seed with a 2-1 record and Creighton is still the likely opponent. I'm still of the opinion that we will go 3-0, but the recent performances of our last three opponents have me a little on edge.

Thoughts on what team will have the best chance of taking down UCONN? It's the one team that I really, really do not want to see again.

What would be our best path to being the champion?

[MU82]

The absolute worst seed is the 6. Not only does it mean you have just missed out on 5 and the bye that goes with it, but it also means you have to play a game against Georgetown that can't help you one iota but definitely can hurt you.

[MUDPT]

3-0 or 2-1- 5 seed
1-2 or 0-3- 6 seed

However, an MU win and St. John's loss tomorrow, probably means MU is the 5 seed.

[brewcity77]

Ideal case is getting the 4/5 game against Seton Hall without Aiken or a reeling Xavier. Now that Nembhard is done, Creighton is a little more appealing, though Rati and Alexander aren't terrible options.

That gives us a shot at a semi against either an overrated Providence team or the most likely bid thief in the Big East, which will be the 8/9 winner, probably either Butler or St John's.

It also puts UConn on the opposite side with Villanova & (ideally) Creighton so we'd only have to deal with one of those three in the final, at which point you take what you get.

[Scoop Snoop]

Ideal case is getting the 4/5 game against Seton Hall without Aiken or a reeling Xavier. Now that Nembhard is done, Creighton is a little more appealing, though Rati and Alexander aren't terrible options.

That gives us a shot at a semi against either an overrated Providence team or the most likely bid thief in the Big East, which will be the 8/9 winner, probably either Butler or St John's.

It also puts UConn on the opposite side with Villanova & (ideally) Creighton so we'd only have to deal with one of those three in the final, at which point you take what you get.

Love this scenario Brew. This is exactly the type of response I was hoping for. I had not given much consideration to SH or X being our 4/5 opponent.

[PGsHeroes32]

3-0 or 2-1- 5 seed
1-2 or 0-3- 6 seed

However, an MU win and St. John's loss tomorrow, probably means MU is the 5 seed.

Don't want to test it, but sadly a very solid chance that 1-2 also gets us a 5 seed.

[PGsHeroes32]

Ideal case is getting the 4/5 game against Seton Hall without Aiken or a reeling Xavier. Now that Nembhard is done, Creighton is a little more appealing, though Rati and Alexander aren't terrible options.

That gives us a shot at a semi against either an overrated Providence team or the most likely bid thief in the Big East, which will be the 8/9 winner, probably either Butler or St John's.

It also puts UConn on the opposite side with Villanova & (ideally) Creighton so we'd only have to deal with one of those three in the final, at which point you take what you get.

0-2 is 0-2

But Id way rather have Creighton.

[MUDPT]

Don't want to test it, but sadly a very solid chance that 1-2 also gets us a 5 seed.

If the one win is over St. John's, yes.

[swoopem]

Ideal case is getting the 4/5 game against Seton Hall without Aiken or a reeling Xavier. Now that Nembhard is done, Creighton is a little more appealing, though Rati and Alexander aren't terrible options.

That gives us a shot at a semi against either an overrated Providence team or the most likely bid thief in the Big East, which will be the 8/9 winner, probably either Butler or St John's.

It also puts UConn on the opposite side with Villanova & (ideally) Creighton so we'd only have to deal with one of those three in the final, at which point you take what you get.

Give me Creighton over X or the Hall and I don't think it's even close

[PGsHeroes32]

If the one win is over St. John's, yes.

1-2 Has us beat SHU in any head to head scenario at 10-9(if they go 2-1)

X is 7-9

SJU is 7-9

If either of those teams lose 1 they are out.

Looks to me like there are lots of scenarios where 1-2, 10-9 works.

X beats SJU and SHU beats X but loses one of their other 2 would be a solid example(aka the creighton game). Or SJU just flat out loses at DePaul.

Laziness mixed with zero desire to actually go 1-2 has me not looking at what potential tiebreakers are if we finish 10-9 with a few of these teams. But cant imagine we lose a lot of them.

[MU82]

Ideal case is getting the 4/5 game against Seton Hall without Aiken or a reeling Xavier. Now that Nembhard is done, Creighton is a little more appealing, though Rati and Alexander aren't terrible options.

That gives us a shot at a semi against either an overrated Providence team or the most likely bid thief in the Big East, which will be the 8/9 winner, probably either Butler or St John's.

It also puts UConn on the opposite side with Villanova & (ideally) Creighton so we'd only have to deal with one of those three in the final, at which point you take what you get.

I prefer Creighton, but we'd beat any of those in the 4/5 game IMHO.

[Galway Eagle]

Give me Creighton over X or the Hall and I don't think it's even close

Team who swept us over team we swept and is missing Aiken? Not sure I follow the logic there. I guess CUs missing a major player as well but still not sure I follow the thought process

[PGsHeroes32]

Team who swept us over team we swept and is missing Aiken? Not sure I follow the logic there. I guess CUs missing a major player as well but still not sure I follow the thought process

We swept Nova, so would you really rather play them than Creighton? Or X? Or Butler?

There are a lot of factors. Teams like SHU and X have a chance to have a game where they are playing volleyball with our backboard til they finally score.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

Ideal case is getting the 4/5 game against Seton Hall without Aiken or a reeling Xavier. Now that Nembhard is done, Creighton is a little more appealing, though Rati and Alexander aren't terrible options.

That gives us a shot at a semi against either an overrated Providence team or the most likely bid thief in the Big East, which will be the 8/9 winner, probably either Butler or St John's.

It also puts UConn on the opposite side with Villanova & (ideally) Creighton so we'd only have to deal with one of those three in the final, at which point you take what you get.

I'd personally much rather play Creighton sans Nembhard than Seton Hall. I don't think X is getting into the 4/5 game. 

MU is basically locked into the 4-5 seed unless they go 1-2 or worse.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

Currently expected standings based on T-Rank's projections:

PC 14-3
Nova 16-4
UCONN 14-5
Creighton 12-7
Marquette 12-7
Seton Hall 9-9
SJU 9-10
Xavier 9-10
Butler 6-14
Depaul 4-16
Gtown 0-20

Game-by-game projected results yeilding those standings:

2/26:
Butler @ MU (MU W)
Hall @ X (X W)
Creighton @ PC (PC W)

2/27:
UCONN @ Gtown (UCONN W)
SJU @ DP (SJU W)

3/1:
PC @ Nova (Nova W)

3/2:
X @SJU (SJU W)
Gtown @ Hall (Hall W)
UCONN @ Creighton (UCONN W)
MU @ DP (MU W)

3/5:
Nova @ Butler (NOVA W)
Depaul @ UCONN (UCONN W)
SJU @ MU (MU W)
Gtown @ X (X W)
Hall @ Creighton (Creighton W)

[BM1090]

0-2 is 0-2

But Id way rather have Creighton.

Agreed. And Aiken could be back.

[CountryRoads]

Sucks that they wouldn't be at full strength, but I want the 4-5 game against Creighton.

Would be a massive choke if MU falls to the 6. MU falling to the 6 seed would be a bigger collapse than any Wojo year.

[Newsdreams]

Team who swept us over team we swept and is missing Aiken? Not sure I follow the logic there. I guess CUs missing a major player as well but still not sure I follow the thought process

Remember can't beat a team 3 times....

[brewcity77]

The thing with Creighton is that Nembhard isn't the reason they give us trouble. It's Kalkbrenner and his ability to cut off pick and roll lanes. They're probably better with Nembhard, but he's a low efficiency, turnover prone guard backed up by other low efficiency, turnover prone guards. I'm not sure how much their gameplan or effectiveness changes against us without him in the lineup.

[PointWarrior]

except if it's your Senior Day...

Remember can't beat a team 3 times....

[bilsu]

The absolute worst seed is the 6. Not only does it mean you have just missed out on 5 and the bye that goes with it, but it also means you have to play a game against Georgetown that can't help you one iota but definitely can hurt you.

A win never hurts and you get rid of first game jitters. The other first round games are much more competitive. We are going to be the five seed and either play Uconn or Creighton, who we lost both games to.
I rather play Creighton.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

A win never hurts and you get rid of first game jitters. The other first round games are much more competitive. We are going to be the five seed and either play Uconn or Creighton, who we lost both games to.
I rather play Creighton.

There is pretty much no realistic scenario where UCONN ends up as out 1st round opponent.  They are basically locked into 3 seed.

[Galway Eagle]

Remember can't beat a team 3 times....

That's nullified if we're wearing championship blue on national tv

[MU82]

The thing with Creighton is that Nembhard isn't the reason they give us trouble. It's Kalkbrenner and his ability to cut off pick and roll lanes. They're probably better with Nembhard, but he's a low efficiency, turnover prone guard backed up by other low efficiency, turnover prone guards. I'm not sure how much their gameplan or effectiveness changes against us without him in the lineup.

And yet if our coach fouls up 3 we win the first game, and if Lewis and O-Max make bunnies we win the second game. I'll take my chances with a Nembhard-less CU in meeting #3.

[Scoop Snoop]

Rather than worrying about who our opponent will be in the 4/5 game, I'm more interested in seeing what Shaka and his staff have done in rebooting the team over the past 6 days. Tomorrow (and the following two games) we should have a good idea whether or not some of our problems have been worked out. If they have, we should do well in the BET regardless of who we play, and maybe even win it.