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MU82

Quote from: Uncle Rico on October 10, 2022, 11:49:34 AM
Don't disagree.  Now that he's had failure, though, I wonder if that seeps into how he coaches moving forward.  It's weird how hot shots like him can fizzle quick after their first taste of failure

Maybe it'll be like when a so-so (or worse) Big East basketball player steps down to the MAC or Sun Belt or wherever and becomes the BMOC.

I'm not saying Rhule is any Saban or Holtz, but they were NFL failures who went back to college and did OK. And there have been others.

Having said that, I have absolutely no idea if he'll do well upon returning to college. He could be outstanding, or he could suck. We'll see. Either way, he'll get paid for the rest of us to find out.
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JWags85

Feel like Rhule has Spurrier vibes. 

Succeeded at a program in a tough spot with relative success (Rhule at Temple, Spurrier taking over a moribund Duke team and winning their first conference title in 25+ years). 

Went to a good program that was in a rough spot (Rhule at Baylor, Spurrier taking over a Florida program that had been good at times but never a prime contender in the SEC). 
Flopped hard in a short stretch in the NFL (Carolina/Washington). 

Back to college.  Spurrier didn't replicate what he did at UF in Columbia, but South Carolina had been alright, decent years under Holtz, and Spurrier made them a top 10 team in New Years Day bowls and won the SEC East.  I think Rhule could do that.  Georgia Tech makes the most sense for him, IMO.  Given his geographic history.  But Nebraska will pay a lot more.

The Sultan

Quote from: Pakuni on October 10, 2022, 11:17:30 AM
I don't know. He was a terrible NFL coach, obviously, but he stepped into two terrible college situations and quickly made both programs respectable.
Hard to imagine there's a more challenging college job out there than what he faced when he took over at Baylor. Which isn't to say that he'll have the same success, just that he's faced tougher circumstances and succeeded.


Yeah, I don't think blue bloods aren't going to beat down the door for him, but I could see him land at a place like Louisville or Arizona State.

EDIT:  Good call on Georgia Tech Wags...
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Uncle Rico

Quote from: JWags85 on October 10, 2022, 01:04:09 PM
Feel like Rhule has Spurrier vibes. 

Succeeded at a program in a tough spot with relative success (Rhule at Temple, Spurrier taking over a moribund Duke team and winning their first conference title in 25+ years). 

Went to a good program that was in a rough spot (Rhule at Baylor, Spurrier taking over a Florida program that had been good at times but never a prime contender in the SEC). 
Flopped hard in a short stretch in the NFL (Carolina/Washington). 

Back to college.  Spurrier didn't replicate what he did at UF in Columbia, but South Carolina had been alright, decent years under Holtz, and Spurrier made them a top 10 team in New Years Day bowls and won the SEC East.  I think Rhule could do that.  Georgia Tech makes the most sense for him, IMO.  Given his geographic history.  But Nebraska will pay a lot more.

I'd take Arizona State before Georgia Tech.  Tech is hard to get transfers into and he'll need to be quick on his feet building a roster and I think Arizona State will be easier to do that at. 

I wouldn't touch the Nebraska job if I were him.  Trev Alberts as your boss sounds terrible
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RJax55

Quote from: JWags85 on October 10, 2022, 01:04:09 PM
Feel like Rhule has Spurrier vibes. 

Succeeded at a program in a tough spot with relative success (Rhule at Temple, Spurrier taking over a moribund Duke team and winning their first conference title in 25+ years). 

Went to a good program that was in a rough spot (Rhule at Baylor, Spurrier taking over a Florida program that had been good at times but never a prime contender in the SEC). 
Flopped hard in a short stretch in the NFL (Carolina/Washington). 

Back to college.  Spurrier didn't replicate what he did at UF in Columbia, but South Carolina had been alright, decent years under Holtz, and Spurrier made them a top 10 team in New Years Day bowls and won the SEC East.  I think Rhule could do that.  Georgia Tech makes the most sense for him, IMO.  Given his geographic history.  But Nebraska will pay a lot more.

The track record of coaches that had success in college, failed in the NFL, but came back to college football is pretty good. I would expect Rhule to find solid success wherever he goes.

Auburn is another job that looks to be opening. If so, I would expect Rhule to be at the top of their list.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: RJax55 on October 10, 2022, 01:22:36 PM
The track record of coaches that had success in college, failed in the NFL, but came back to college football is pretty good. I would expect Rhule to find solid success wherever he goes.

Auburn is another job that looks to be opening. If so, I would expect Rhule to be at the top of their list.

Those people in Auburn are nuts
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RJax55

Quote from: Uncle Rico on October 10, 2022, 03:06:23 PM
Those people in Auburn are nuts

True. But, so are the guys in Lincoln.

At Auburn, I believe that it's still possible for a coach to achieve a high level of success. At Nebraska, that would require a time machine.

Honestly, both jobs suck.

Pakuni

Quote from: RJax55 on October 10, 2022, 03:27:03 PM
True. But, so are the guys in Lincoln.

At Auburn, I believe that it's still possible for a coach to achieve a high level of success. At Nebraska, that would require a time machine.

Honestly, both jobs suck.

Auburn is a good job where you can build a consistent top 20 program that can even figure in the top 10 some years. Big-time resources and facilities. Money to burn. Best conference. Great recruiting territory. Solid tradition.
The problem, the fan base looks to big brother to the west and demands similar results, or else. They might get that once ina  blue moon, but expecting it consistently is silly. at least so long as Saban is still around.

RJax55

Quote from: Pakuni on October 10, 2022, 03:43:33 PM
Auburn is a good job where you can build a consistent top 20 program that can even figure in the top 10 some years. Big-time resources and facilities. Money to burn. Best conference. Great recruiting territory. Solid tradition.
The problem, the fan base looks to big brother to the west and demands similar results, or else. They might get that once ina  blue moon, but expecting it consistently is silly. at least so long as Saban is still around.

Completely agree. The Saban era has melted the minds of the Auburn faithful. It's why the job currently sucks.

ATL MU Warrior

The last former NFL head coach hired by Nebraska worked out so well...

RJax55

Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on October 10, 2022, 04:10:20 PM
The last former NFL head coach hired by Nebraska worked out so well...

No coach is going to met the expectations of that fanbase. They want Ohio State like results. Ain't happening.


ATL MU Warrior

Oh, you don't have to tell me.  At least this time they have a "Nebraska Guy" at AD. 

WhiteTrash

Quote from: RJax55 on October 10, 2022, 04:19:43 PM
No coach is going to met the expectations of that fanbase. They want Ohio State like results. Ain't happening.
Crazy how things change. 20 years ago, Ohio State wanted Nebraska type results (which they still have not seen).

RJax55

Quote from: WhiteTrash on October 10, 2022, 05:01:06 PM
Crazy how things change. 20 years ago, Ohio State wanted Nebraska type results (which they still have not seen).

Huh? Ohio State won the national championship exactly 20 years ago.

The 2002 Buckeyes.

The Sultan

Quote from: RJax55 on October 10, 2022, 05:14:01 PM
Huh? Ohio State won the national championship exactly 20 years ago.

The 2002 Buckeyes.


And 2014.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

JWags85

Quote from: RJax55 on October 10, 2022, 05:14:01 PM
Huh? Ohio State won the national championship exactly 20 years ago.

The 2002 Buckeyes.

Yea, not to mention Ohio St has miles more success and history than Nebraska pre-Osborne.  Even during Osborne's crescendo in the mid 90s, OSU was still finishing top 5.  And that was with Cooper, who is arguably the worst/most disappointing OSU coach since Hayes.

Dish

Raiders are curb stomping the Chiefs thus far.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: DegenerateDish on October 10, 2022, 08:07:30 PM
Raiders are curb stomping the Chiefs thus far.

Packers could use a guy like Davante Adams
Guster is for Lovers

Dish


MU82

Got home from umpiring and saw that Raiders were leading 20-10 at halftime. Took a quick shower. Sat down in front of the TV ... to see that it was 24-20 Chiefs.
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"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

MU82

I wouldn't have gone for 2 if I were McDaniels, but at least I understand why he did.

But why the hell did Reid go for 2 on the previous possession by the Chiefs?
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Jockey

Quote from: Uncle Rico on October 10, 2022, 08:18:13 PM
Packers could use a guy like Davante Adams

He put the Raiders over the top.

Dish

Quote from: MU82 on October 10, 2022, 10:04:29 PM
I wouldn't have gone for 2 if I were McDaniels, but at least I understand why he did.

But why the hell did Reid go for 2 on the previous possession by the Chiefs?

ALWAYS go for 2 in the 4th quarter when a TD puts you up 7. Every. Single. Time.

PGsHeroes32

Quote from: MU82 on October 10, 2022, 10:04:29 PM
I wouldn't have gone for 2 if I were McDaniels, but at least I understand why he did.

But why the hell did Reid go for 2 on the previous possession by the Chiefs?

I like the one from Reid. As dish said, in the 4th qtr teams should almost always do that. At least any team with a quality offense

Especially this day in age with the 33 yard PAT.
Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

Dish

Adams should be suspended a game for pushing that audio guy postgame. Pretty classless and terrible.

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