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Pakuni

Quote from: Clarissa on March 17, 2022, 06:42:33 PM
Because an elite QB is WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYY better than having an elite WR.

Sure, but why give your notoriously mercurial elite QB $50 million a year and then not surround him with the pieces needed to win a championship and keep him happy?

Jockey

Hate to see him go - but you can't pay everyone.

I'd much rather have Jaire & Elgton re-sign than Adams (mainly because of age).

Dish

I thought Vegas would trade for a stud WR, but thought it would be DK Metcalf.

Once Kirk signed his ridiculous contract, it was the end of the end of Adams in Green Bay. There was no way they could pay him and Rodgers in the neighborhood of $75-$80 million this year and next.

It would be hilarious if Green Bay drafted a QB with the first round pick acquired from Vegas.

Pakuni

Adams' new contract = $141.25M over 5 years.
Of course, what really counts is what's guaranteed.

GB Warrior

Rapaport reporting that Rodgers knew. Confusing times. Can't wait for WR1 Cole Beasley


GB Warrior

Congrats on everyone getting paid. Would have been nice to let someone else absorb a 70m dead cap hit under the circumstances

The Sultan

Quote from: Pakuni on March 17, 2022, 06:45:35 PM
Sure, but why give your notoriously mercurial elite QB $50 million a year and then not surround him with the pieces needed to win a championship and keep him happy?


Apparently the Packers don't believe that signing Adams to a monsterous contract is necessary to win a championship.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

GB Warrior

Quote from: Clarissa on March 17, 2022, 07:01:37 PM

Apparently the Packers don't believe that signing Adams to a monsterous contract is necessary to win a championship.

They are incorrect.

I will say, Rodgers will likely avoid a lot of bad tendencies (that often ended in glorious ways) without Adams

The Sultan

Quote from: GB Warrior on March 17, 2022, 07:07:30 PM
They are incorrect.

Well I trust Gutey more than you when it comes to that opinion.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Pakuni

Quote from: Clarissa on March 17, 2022, 07:01:37 PM

Apparently the Packers don't believe that signing Adams to a monsterous contract is necessary to win a championship.

Apparently they do, since they reportedly were willing to give Adams the same deal.

The Sultan

Quote from: Pakuni on March 17, 2022, 07:17:00 PM
Apparently they do, since they reportedly were willing to give Adams the same deal.


So then your beef shouldn't be with the Packers.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Herman Cain

"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

Pakuni

Quote from: Clarissa on March 17, 2022, 07:20:30 PM

So then your beef shouldn't be with the Packers.

I mean, there's a reason why Adams didn't want to take the Packers money, right?

GB Warrior

Quote from: Clarissa on March 17, 2022, 07:10:43 PM
Well I trust Gutey more than you when it comes to that opinion.

Gutsy is reaching Detroit levels of pissing off generational talents.

Rodgers very well could be a better pure system QB without Adams, but there is no world in which this version of the Packers is better.

Proof will obviously be in what they do with the capital, but the odds are against them striking gold

Jockey

Quote from: Clarissa on March 17, 2022, 07:01:37 PM

Apparently the Packers don't believe that signing Adams to a monsterous contract is necessary to win a championship.

NM

4everwarriors

Other than getting da bread, I think Adams fooked himself over. He'll be just another guy with someone other than #12 tossin' 'im da pigskin. And, I know Carr and he were teammates in college, aina?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

The Sultan

Quote from: GB Warrior on March 17, 2022, 07:29:44 PM
Gutsy is reaching Detroit levels of pissing off generational talents.


Yeah, the GM who has gotten them to NFCCG in two of the last three years, and the #1 seed in the last two, is just like Detroit's.

Great comparison.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Dish

Quote from: Pakuni on March 17, 2022, 07:17:00 PM
Apparently they do, since they reportedly were willing to give Adams the same deal.

There's 0% chance they were willing to give him that same contract. You know it as well as I do. Green Bay & national media is going to be dizzy from the spin the Packers are throwing out there.

The Sultan

Quote from: Pakuni on March 17, 2022, 07:28:56 PM
I mean, there's a reason why Adams didn't want to take the Packers money, right?

Sure.  But neither you nor I know what those reasons are. 
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Pakuni

Quote from: Clarissa on March 17, 2022, 07:46:05 PM
Sure.  But neither you nor I know what those reasons are.

In the last year, Adams went from saying he wanted to remain in Green Bay to wanting out. And that 12 months coincided with the Packers' front office dicking around with him on a long-term deal
Could these things be related? We'll never know.

The Sultan

Quote from: Pakuni on March 17, 2022, 08:31:36 PM
In the last year, Adams went from saying he wanted to remain in Green Bay to wanting out. And that 12 months coincided with the Packers' front office dicking around with him on a long-term deal
Could these things be related? We'll never know.



You mean the long term deal that they apparently offered him?  You are engaging in circular logic right now.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Pakuni

Quote from: Clarissa on March 17, 2022, 08:32:48 PM

You mean the long term deal that they apparently offered him?  You are engaging in circular logic right now.

Not really.
Rather than extending him any time over the last year, they franchised him, after he'd said he wouldn't play under the tag.
Setting fire to bridges sometimes gets you burned.

But apparently a GM who has a history of alienating his star players deserves the benefit of the doubt here.

The Sultan

Quote from: Pakuni on March 17, 2022, 08:36:44 PM
Not really.
Rather than extending him any time over the last year, they franchised him, after he'd said he wouldn't play under the tag.
Setting fire to bridges sometimes gets you burned.

But apparently a GM who has a history of alienating his star players deserves the benefit of the doubt here.



"A history of alienating his star players?"  Before this, he alienated one...who is still on the team.  I am not sure what you wanted him to do.  I mean, he offered to make him the highest paid WR ever right?  But he turned him down, and went to a lesser team, because he got his feelings hurt?  Well OK.  I'm not blaming him for that.

Meanwhile he has overseen a team that needed to be rebuilt around Rodgers, and has completely done so.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

PointWarrior

Congrats on dumbest post of the day. 

Quote from: GB Warrior on March 17, 2022, 07:29:44 PM
Gutsy is reaching Detroit levels of pissing off generational talents.

Rodgers very well could be a better pure system QB without Adams, but there is no world in which this version of the Packers is better.

Proof will obviously be in what they do with the capital, but the odds are against them striking gold

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