2022-2023 NFL Season

[JWags85]

If that's true, he's delusional about his abilities. You can't sit for years and expect to come in as a starter, particularly when his last years weren't all that great as it was.

That was what was publicly stated in 2018-2019.  I know he refused the Broncos on that basis. But I just see now he stated last month that he'd be willing to be a backup.  In that case, I hope he sticks if nothing but to put an end to a lot of dumb narratives about his actual football ability.

In the years since he's been out of the league, it feels like some want to make him out to be peak Michael Vick while others act like he was Seneca Wallace

[ZiggysFryBoy]

Why would he voluntarily return to slavery?

[Herman Cain]

Antonio Brown looks like he can't get any takers for his services.

https://nypost.com/2022/05/29/antonio-brown-says-he-wont-play-in-nfl-in-2022/

[JWags85]

As we go through the offseason where salaries and new contracts come up, the disparity in NFL salaries compared to other sports never ceases to amaze me.  I know roster size has a big part of it, but its still so crazy.

Just watched an episode of the IAMATHLETE podcast with Aaron Donald.  One of the hosts was Lesean McCoy.  Shady was a STUD at his peak.  2 time first team All Pro.  7 Pro Bowl seasons.  All Decade team for the 2010s.  Rushing yards leader, incredible 2 way RB.  He made $60MM in a 12 year NFL career.

Looking at the Bucks.  George Hill has never made an All Star game.  Steady but unspectacular guard, but his best seasons he wasn't even the best guard on his team, much less one of the tops in even his division.  But through 12 seasons he made just over $90MM...

Brook Lopez.  Another good but not great player.  Tons of empty stats on bad teams.  1 ASG but nobody is talking about him with the tops at his position...through 12 seasons he made double McCoy's career earnings.

Mommas don't let your kids be football players, especially not RBs.

[Pakuni]

Why would he voluntarily return to slavery?

Stunning that you take his words out of context.

[cheebs09]

As we go through the offseason where salaries and new contracts come up, the disparity in NFL salaries compared to other sports never ceases to amaze me.  I know roster size has a big part of it, but its still so crazy.

Just watched an episode of the IAMATHLETE podcast with Aaron Donald.  One of the hosts was Lesean McCoy.  Shady was a STUD at his peak.  2 time first team All Pro.  7 Pro Bowl seasons.  All Decade team for the 2010s.  Rushing yards leader, incredible 2 way RB.  He made $60MM in a 12 year NFL career.

Looking at the Bucks.  George Hill has never made an All Star game.  Steady but unspectacular guard, but his best seasons he wasn't even the best guard on his team, much less one of the tops in even his division.  But through 12 seasons he made just over $90MM...

Brook Lopez.  Another good but not great player.  Tons of empty stats on bad teams.  1 ASG but nobody is talking about him with the tops at his position...through 12 seasons he made double McCoy's career earnings.

Mommas don't let your kids be football players, especially not RBs.

That doesn't even account for the lack of guarantees for NFL. George Hill could have torn his ACL and gotten all his contract. Not the same for McCoy.

[Jockey]

As we go through the offseason where salaries and new contracts come up, the disparity in NFL salaries compared to other sports never ceases to amaze me.  I know roster size has a big part of it, but its still so crazy.

Just watched an episode of the IAMATHLETE podcast with Aaron Donald.  One of the hosts was Lesean McCoy.  Shady was a STUD at his peak.  2 time first team All Pro.  7 Pro Bowl seasons.  All Decade team for the 2010s.  Rushing yards leader, incredible 2 way RB.  He made $60MM in a 12 year NFL career.

Looking at the Bucks.  George Hill has never made an All Star game.  Steady but unspectacular guard, but his best seasons he wasn't even the best guard on his team, much less one of the tops in even his division.  But through 12 seasons he made just over $90MM...

Brook Lopez.  Another good but not great player.  Tons of empty stats on bad teams.  1 ASG but nobody is talking about him with the tops at his position...through 12 seasons he made double McCoy's career earnings.

Mommas don't let your kids be football players, especially not RBs.

Is Aaron Donald really this dumb? He had no idea what he was talking about - to the point where he said it isn't about money and it is about money in the same sentence.

[JWags85]

Is Aaron Donald really this dumb? He had no idea what he was talking about - to the point where he said it isn't about money and it is about money in the same sentence.

I took it as "its not about money" in the sense that he doesn't need it.  He's made $100MM so he's good.  But at the same time, its about money from the respect/value angle.  Aaron Rodgers doesn't need money but he has an infatuation with being paid the highest or amongst the very top.

I mean, if you're willing to retire if not for a deal you think you deserve, its sort of beyond money at that point in terms of the actual impact on your life.  But the money represents respect or stature.

He's done everything there is to do.  He has a ring, he has multiple DPOY, he's a surefire HOFer.

[Jockey]

I took it as "its not about money" in the sense that he doesn't need it.  He's made $100MM so he's good.  But at the same time, its about money from the respect/value angle.  Aaron Rodgers doesn't need money but he has an infatuation with being paid the highest or amongst the very top.

I mean, if you're willing to retire if not for a deal you think you deserve, its sort of beyond money at that point in terms of the actual impact on your life.  But the money represents respect or stature.

He's done everything there is to do.  He has a ring, he has multiple DPOY, he's a surefire HOFer.

I pretty much agree with your comments, but the way respect is measured in the League is thru $$$$. That makes it about Money.

[Herman Cain]

Akiem Hicks to Bucs

https://www.foxnews.com/sports/tampa-bay-bucaneers-sign-former-pro-bowler-akiem-hicks

[MU82]

I took it as "its not about money" in the sense that he doesn't need it.  He's made $100MM so he's good.  But at the same time, its about money from the respect/value angle.  Aaron Rodgers doesn't need money but he has an infatuation with being paid the highest or amongst the very top.

I mean, if you're willing to retire if not for a deal you think you deserve, its sort of beyond money at that point in terms of the actual impact on your life.  But the money represents respect or stature.

He's done everything there is to do.  He has a ring, he has multiple DPOY, he's a surefire HOFer.

Yeah, it does sound crazy, but in pro sports, money often IS respect. I am the best, therefore I am the highest paid.

[The Sultan]

Man the Browns trade for Deshaun Watson is looking extremely questionable right now.

[YaBlueIt]

Man the Browns trade for Deshaun Watson is looking extremely questionable right now.

Only "right now"? This looked like a terrible decision from the start, beginning with alienating Mayfield

[RJax55]

Only "right now"? This looked like a terrible decision from the start, beginning with alienating Mayfield

Mayfield is nothing special. Average QB. I don't fault the Browns for wanting to upgrade over him. However, doing so with Watson was a terrible decision.

[MU82]

The Panthers' QB situation has been a dumpster fire ever since Cam's injuries in 2018, but I was very glad they didn't get Watson.

They supposedly are interested in Mayfield, but only if the Browns pay most of his salary. I'm meh about it, though if healthy he's gotta be better than Darnold.

[MuggsyB]

I honestly haven't followed the plethora of accusations against DeShaun Watson but WTH?

[Pakuni]

The Commanders' defensive team meetings are going to be interesting this season.

[Hards Alumni]

The Commanders' defensive team meetings are going to be interesting this season.

Why does he even answer anything related to either incident.

"I'm not going to talk about anything like that, I'm here to talk about our team, and specifically defense."

What a dope.

[MUBurrow]

The Commanders' defensive team meetings are going to be interesting this season.

[The Sultan]

There's a wint tweet for everything.

[Herman Cain]

Gronk retires again. Great career over for good it seems . Body took too much abuse .

https://twitter.com/RobGronkowski/status/1539314500280537089

[MU82]

Deshaun Watson Settles 20 of the 24 Sexual Misconduct Cases Against Him

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/21/sports/football/deshaun-watson-settlements.html?campaign_id=60&emc=edit_na_20220621&instance_id=0&nl=breaking-news&ref=headline&regi_id=108420427&segment_id=96350&user_id=d36dcf821462fdd16ec3636710a855fa

Meanwhile, Herschel Walker, who has been highly critical of "absentee fathers" has been discovered to have fathered 3 children he mostly (or completely) ignored.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/herschel-walker-critic-of-absentee-dads-admits-to-yet-another-secret-son

[Jockey]

Deshaun Watson Settles 20 of the 24 Sexual Misconduct Cases Against Him

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/21/sports/football/deshaun-watson-settlements.html?campaign_id=60&emc=edit_na_20220621&instance_id=0&nl=breaking-news&ref=headline&regi_id=108420427&segment_id=96350&user_id=d36dcf821462fdd16ec3636710a855fa

Meanwhile, Herschel Walker, who has been highly critical of "absentee fathers" has been discovered to have fathered 3 children he mostly (or completely) ignored.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/herschel-walker-critic-of-absentee-dads-admits-to-yet-another-secret-son

This year will be the 1st time I have ever rooted for a guy to get injured - hopefully career ending. Screw Browns fans!

[The Sultan]

Almost every Browns' fan I know is EXTREMELY conflicted about the franchise right now.

[Jockey]

Almost every Browns' fan I know is EXTREMELY conflicted about the franchise right now.

I don't know what the percentage is, but I would imagine it is pretty high.